Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode · 1 year ago

Eagles Training Camp Preview

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

After a little vacation break, Jim and the boys are back for another episode of Santa Booed First. 1st topic is all the buzz and preview of Eagles Training Camp. Then they guys are talking NBA Free Agency and is Bryce Harper actually earning his check. Jim and the guys make a case for MVP Harper.

It's great to have football back and something of worth to talk about in this town. Should be a great one

#Eagles #JalenHurts #eaglestrainingcamp #NBAFreeAgency #BryceHarper

To Room Phil Sweep. Tonight Santa is back in studio. We've got training camp, NBA Free Agency. Come on back, we missed you. Guys. We're ready to roll. He's from a period, a period believe they favorite. Good evening and welcome to another episode of the Santa Bood First Podcast, coming to you live from beautiful downtown. Will it grow the lovely crack Bell Production Studios. This is your cohost for the evening, Jim Markus. To My left we got Ryan Smith, Smitty. Who? What's up, Smitty something? Man to his left, the elder statesman Donald Kennedy. Martin Deek, Whoa my drawn up deep not getting the full name in mine. Trouble, you'll get there. What's up to his left? Showing his love for one Ben Simmons and the Don Dj Martin. What's up? It's going on behind a glass date, Moss, money, Moss, whatever you want to call me, Bro let's come here here, money taken, explore. That's what we call it. Don't have to start throwing that around. I felt just been a couple weeks. It's been a few weeks. We missed y'all. A lot has happened. First bit of it what sponsors? Don't let me keep going. Sponsors. First car sponsor. WEAPING in. It's been a couple weeks. I'm a little rusty. Yeah, and I my brains already in vacation mode to so I'm sorry. Going to try to keep in tight here. Insure Phillycom the MPM agency, for all your insurance needs. Get up to ten quotes and about ten minutes, give our Guy Matt Malonia call for Insurance Needs. And always, as all, always, we don't have our prop here, but POPs McCain's whiskey Jay's doing big things. Anybody seeing? He's got himself a nice little like food that's car and calls. Can't I can't wait to see that thing when it's all that's going to be amazing. Yes, that's great, a lot of far fun. So he does his he already does his suitcase shows where he'll come to you and do his ancestors speeches and then have a great party and give you a tasting. Now he's going to have a whole nice cart to wheel behind him to be slinging drinks out of and Nice. So we'll keep an eye on Jay. I told him to. If he rolls that thing through park. Wood Park audience will be his best customers and he needs to give surted out. He needs to get like a bell with the ice cream man. Yeah, a little white cap that they used to wear. Absolutely no, just crow back in your house, I and his presence is felt. He's on the wall, broady man. He's upset that he didn't die. This is not one. That's what it looks like, doesn't it? Yes, we might need the photoshop. We need the photoshop this to a different Jersey cars. Yeah, Oh, yeah, but broady, we miss you. But the light and all. And you know, it's just it looks like we're have to serve. Yeah, right, it's not what you think. Wow, all right, all right, so let's let's get to a police yeah, as we coming in here, phills sweeping the nationals. Let us be the first to say we're very humble group and we always admit when we're wrong. But we all told you the phillies all the way this year. But all your faith in the fills since training, car training, I should say, asn't matter of fact, the last two weeks that we have been on air, I've already mapped out my parade route for world serious I know where I'm gonna be. I know where I'm gonna be fighting. said. So, yeah, I will be the first one to say I had no faith. Still a little hard, but hey, they're looking good. They're getting out at the right time. Other teams around us are not. Injuries are piled up again for the mess. So we're going to make a run at this boys. I mean I think, I think history says the way that, the way the schedules are around it up, they're going to be there till the end. Whether they pull it off or not, I'm not sure, but they definitely have the easiest, easiest schedule left. You know, after this week, after they played the dodgers and they go out west, they pretty much have nobody over five hundred right now other than a serious with the brave that they do, but that's it. Like. So, yeah,...

I mean I think there's a chance. I definitely will say this, like I didn't expect them to come back and some of these Games are hard that they've shown and the way that they've played. The bullpen. All right, like you know what I mean. Like it will say, two months ago, some of these games you were like this game over, yes, Games over, they're not winning is in the last week they've looked like a baseball team, and I'm still saying that. Like when they when they went down five to tonight, I was like, oh well, you know, I got three out of four. Good right, but there's they definitely show a lot of kick and the thing is they're doing it late in games. That and right. When you can do it late in games, that really puts the pressure on the other teams. Puts the pressure on the other pictures in the back of our mind. They're thinking, are they going to do it again? They going to do it against me? You know what's going to happen, and I think that really works at our advantage. And you're right. After this after this week, their schedule gets fairly easy. I think I think I said or saw somewhere that they had the easiest schedule for the rest of the season in the National League. Yeah, they do, so by far. They need to take advantage of that and win series. They can't be split in four game series. They can't be, you know, getting one out of three. They got to win series. You're not going to win them all, but you got to win the majority of them. You got to beat the teams that you should beat their lineups hot right now. Yeah, and right. You said they're in laying games, and that's perfectly because our bullpen, as we've seen, cannot hold leads and even though they've pitched well lately. Yeah, but yeah, they're doing bad. I mean this lineups hot right now and the pitching has been serviceable right. So I don't see how this team doesn't take the division right now. Do you think, and I said this dismay before the show and kind of tongue cheek, but do you think, now that the trade deadline is past, you think these guys are playing a little more comfortably? I definitely think it. We were saying, like I was one of the guys saying this team shouldn't be by they're not ready to win any here, and they didn't really sell even and they just kind of Shid they mareic they did. They did what they should have did, like everyone wanted them to make the big mood, but there was nothing there for them to move right when they did the right thing, right thought. We all thought they were going to stand pat and the thing is they have nothing to tread right. They have no players trade right, they have no prospects. So all your mot when you're in that situation, all your moves are going to be lateral moves. You're not going to make any upgrades, you know, anywhere. I mean, yeah, I mean everybody. There's people out there, even like myself, like I would have loved to have briant right, like, I mean whatever. You don't deplete your roster. You don't give up make able and Bryson Stott, who again, like we don't know what they are, but that's basically your farm system right now. You don't give them up for a month or two of Chris Bryant, for a chance to maybe steal the division. However, that move of getting Gibson, that's a good move. I mean he's having an Allstar year to shear right, like I know he's having occur. Are here here, and he's signed next year, right, for seven million dollars, and that's the move. Their drawback is he's thirty three, right, and that's what people don't like. Give but for seven million dollars or started. I don't know. I didn't hate the trade, but people that are you know that didn't like it. I mean that's what they're yeah, I mean argument is you're you're not going to make a move like the dog. And they gave up nothing. That's what I'm saying. They go Spencer Hour. Did you see what he did today? And he's stunky. I think he was three innings and poor earned rounds or something like that. What a fun yes, IA, people are upset that they gave up pitches, potential prospect I'm tired of waiting around. I'm with you, like you want to. You're built to win. Now, when you think about it, when you look at the lack of the roster, they they still need pitching. They're laugh absolutely, but I'm saying their lineup it is good enough to win. They need one more, maybe two more slots. They need two more story two solid starters, and they still need a lot of Pol pelp. Do they still have that like trade deadline, like they know, like like a boy after yeah, way, member's deadline. Yeah, we got more, like I mean like maybe a pick up another four fish store. Do I mean Cole Hammils went to La Right, we would have liked that, but, like you know, La sign and every who news, right, and I know, I know, I know, Zach ef one isn't the greatest picture out there. But maybe he calls back from the injury with a little spark. I'll tell you what I like when I saw from Rangers wires and Rangers wires looked good. Yeah, right, like you let him extend that arm. He was pretty good. There's three innings and any probably could have went a fourth inning that night. If yes, maybe right. Noah was disappointing today. He had he has those games out right down to free problem. Ye Know, frequent. He's Been Asi young finalist. So so you know he's good, but it's just his this season with whatever's going on with on his just all. So maybe he's Richt. Maybe somebody gets in his head and his ass or head and says, look, Dude, we're...

...going to win a division here, we need you. You're one of our races, right, like get your shit together. So maybe that happens soon. He said became a couple weeks ago the game that he pitched really well and it's a brave after the gay said, like I felt like I was getting lazy and there's just certain fundamentals that I was just not I wasn't crisp on them, and I got to go back and I got to look at myself and I got to make sure that I'm doing the right thing. Yeah, and stop being lazy, and I appreciate that, recognize it, but you gotta do it. You got yeah, not for one game, right. I agree. I mean, historically he hasn't been that bad, like I've seen, like people say all nul trash like this year. Yet he's been. But if you you look at like his career numbers, they're not much different than what wheeler was his first five years in the league, like this is his first year right now that he's currently over a five year yeah, this, right, this is the worst years. Last year, you know, he was a for but here's the thing, like I think a lot of people, if you look historically at baseball anymore, like there's not a lot of guys it's stay under like a two point ninety are unless you're tight like to me. Noah fits in as a he's not a hybrid. I th three, but with Gibson, that's that's all I'm gonna stay. I think. I think this year shows that knows, not a real ace, he's not a nice he's your too write three at worst. Right. Wheeler's this team's this team's a that's clear right, for sure. So, but I'm just saying, like he's this is a bad here and let's I'm not. I'M NOT gonna give up on him because I know he's good and I know and I've seen what you can do right and I hope that it comes sooner rather than later because we need them to finish the season. So I think there's leadership on the team to that. I'll corral him and and he's he's his own worst critic to you, like he'll tell you an interviews in post game stuff that he need. He knows he needs to be better and I think he'll figure it it. Maybe if Nola gets to vaccine, he goes all right, like a couple of these guys that I saw. I saw somebody like today said on twitter the Covid Boys. So come back to win. Can we talk about somebody that, like on the Phillies, has been how about what's tour is like to Ya? Right, right, yeah, real pleasant surprise. He had never today. He had an error today, which is really it wasn't. It was. It was a bad error, but I'm just what it'side who he is in and he get on base in the ninth right to get that. Yeah, he started. He's had some big hits. He plays really good defend like the guy by the little sparkle right. And Yeah, we got Frank Galvis coming back and he's defense and he's and he's. Yeah, I'm not exacted. Doesn't exacite me, but that's yes, I have no problems indeed. And he's didn't think of something. Allis is perfect for a guy off the bench if you need a pinch hitter or a guy that needs to just play a game, to give like today, to give cigar a day off. Here's Freddy's Great. Now I write problem with him starting. Yeah, I'm he's earned it. Wait a minute, I said that in our chat, like or whatever you want to call it, a month ago. Remember, people place the men group Chat, Chat Tech Extras, right, and everybody else like, why not try to move segre and move him in the second base, and then you would have cleared up salary for as starter. That guy can play. Why not? He's a good player, but I'm not moving seguar form Segar is still better segar was it. If he doesn't get hurt. Segar as an all star this year. Cigar's been real sound. He's come out with clutch hit after clutcht how many Games is he let all? He's like, I don't want to call him Jimmy Rollins, but Oh God, please, how many times is he let off the game at home run and starts, you know, starts to run? I think too to know it's been way more than all right. Well, I'm just saying, and he's a little smart park, that they needed the top of the line up. There's guys on his team like when you start talking about him, seems like they start to play well, like DDDD. He's playing shitting and then he had a yeah the other day and calculated couch that. I can't stand that. That he looks like I should be a skateboard Datie. You can't stay a long hair you keep I can't stand that. He's une badly being good. He's really wrong. He was out for today. Right, well, he was. He was over three hundred for a long time. He's a don't know. He's sole. He's been playing well and the only reason why his plays would cut that out. said I thought he was over to Tokyo for Skateboard, and he should. He's looks like it's Joe exa story and Joe Dirt to wait. We also before we took our little break in before the trade deadline, a few of us, I'll raise my hand, we're saying that maybe harper was getting a little overrated and and or maybe we were wasting some of his better years and he might ask out. Now, the last couple days you starting to hear this rumblings of MVP. You know what it is? He was listening. He was listening to here he was. He heard his all the major athletes and philly listen to see. Matter of fact, I heard. Yeah, I've heard. is his wife listen to Santa Bood...

...every Thursday? Yeah, reports back then, so he definitely heard us. They don't get to Ru's wife and kid listening to think Abe has inside sources to get yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's what it's. He just pointed well, against the nationals. Or do you think he's really an MVP? It's not just the series. He's been picking it up ever since after the All star break. He's just flipped the switch. Like I think Harper realizes that this team is good enough to win a division. I really think he's that type of player in the leader in the locker room in the clubhouse. That that hat. Like you heard about the report of Jayt having a team meeting. Yeah, was it last week? The leader? Yeah, there are heard there's leaders on the team that are realizing, now that you know, we have the team to do this, like why not go out and doing like show it that we can do it? And I think Bryce's like that. I agree. I think he's realized that, Oh shit, like we have a team this year and we're good enough to win this crappy division, like, let's go do it and I think even take it a step further. You Win The division you set up this year. You Know Dombrowski, he's you're gonna make moves and down. He listen to get matter. Who showed you? showed them, Browski and Middleton, that you can make the playoffs. You sell out that place. I don't even care if you get one player game more swept by. Just want to playoff, but I don't say it is you made the playoff. Yeah, that motivates Middleton and that motivates some Browski to get more things out in the offseason. That's that's and that's where I think the end. Then see that to the GM s him foults Sam fold folk. I mean he's the guy who actually makes the moves. Dombrowski gives the dumb brutal he makes moves. He gives me a briled is like that. He brings him brand of the sizers, whatever you want to call but I mean he's in there on these two. So I mean the motivates him, is what. No, I agree, I agree, I just but I just want to see playoff baseball back in Philly. I mean it's there's Red October. Yeah, like there's nothing better. Like it's the phillies in the playoffs, Eagles starting their seasonal flyers and sixers are come. Like there's nothing better than having all the teams and let's like look at honestly, like I'm not saying anything, but you know, we talked about nolad wanted to get hot or gifts and pitching. Well, like there's no guarantee that you know they can't steal a game or two. That's you. Yeah, right, exactly. Times you've you seen play on back? Yeah, even before the dodgers wom when they were favored, they get knocked out because Kershall too or somebody I don't say. It takes his yeah, the dodgers are unrelieved toe to get hot in the series, and who knows? That's why I'm trying to dodgers are so setting on paper. I'm a great let's get on and let's you know, we've seen Kershall choke in the playoffs. Right last year he was lights out. But and the Padre's, everybody's all saying about them. A lot of those guys have never really giants. Yeah, never visions. She had divisions. Crazy it is. What's up with the giants? They're twenty something games are in front of the best team there were. Best. They got the Bappler. That everybody on the giants and rubbing cocon the baby it is. And No, I guess that's what it is. I think that also shows that capitals oil massages. That's a teamsone. Capital was a problem here either. that. No, that shows I agree with them. Baseball is the one, sport, though, out of the other majors, where you want to see a playoff runt. Yeah, like in football, if you know you're out of it, you're like, don't scrub a drafting right, yeah, right, these Gah exactly baseball. It's like I don't even know who's in the draft exactly. I can give free shits, like I don't. I just want to see a playoff game it. It's more exciting, yea, so excect and and I'm like rooting hard as hell now, like after dodgers meet all these moves, like anybody, but la to win, right, like, I don't care who it is. Hate, I mean I hate, I hate dodgers in general right now. You, like are like the new Yankees, like if somebody name or they just like they just like the ray's or the white side, like somebody. It's not expect right. You know what I mean? And that's what playoff baseball. He seen that many times. Been How many years and your sense of Philis have been in the playoffs, right, and this serious. This weekend is huge and this would be a big it's huge. This is your not takes, not the season, but it's close. I'll tell you right now. If you take two out of three right, then you're up game and a half. If you take all three, which and the mets, we have mets of coming schedule is horrible, right, and that I mean fourteen days for the mets and it sucks. How many games do they still have to make up? The met's the match. I think they made them up. Yeah, I think they made him all. They're all called up, but they're their next fourteen days of the schedules. It sucks. I mean, I think not. What your woman tomorrow night against is it? Is it sworez going tomorrow, or is it Gibson who went first in the Pittsburgh? Was Itsurres? It was Gibson, skipson websters and made his gibsons bars and then Sundays wheel or against wheel or against Tayran like like I'm telling you right now, the phillies win two out of three. If they if they sweep the mats. Man, who you're talking to and a half. Yeah, like you know, but we just got it. If he care business. Now, West, you can't sleep the mets when you got the eagles first preseason game coming up. All Man, this town be going nuts. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the sea round or to catch three touchdowns. I don't care. Football jacked off. I'm just yes, and Nick Molin's is going to go on. It's hurry.

We're going to see elite Joe Flacco Oh, yeah, we'll get to football. We got some foot we got some football going on tonight. That's true. Now, why you even Spencer's listen and tell him three nothing down. LAS is on the road to that Lombardi trophy. It's happening, Paul. I can't stand either the team's but I'll still watch it when I get yeah, it's football's watch. I would watch the jags bangles right now. Look, I've been enjoying watching you, watching the under eleven kids just run around and well, that tires in the hip stop once. You said I enjoyed watching. Come on, yeah, football, football of football spools is around the corner. So that's that's a good thing. Back Real Quick, till Harper and MEP. He's putting up the number carries this team in the playoffs. He's got to be in the consider you gotta go that he has just because of his name too. Well, here's the thing. He's got eighteen home runs. Right now. The numbers hitting are you, is six. They're not great but for MVP, but they're not hitting in front of him. He would have seven. That's thing, harp, like we just said, the LINEUPS getting hot right, the LINEUPS getting hot. That means good things for harder, because he's right and I'm jazz. He's batting in front of him right, so and c the girl leading off. Right. I agreat. He's got. His numbers aren't great. They're not batting everything. Before tonight's game he's three or six. Only seventeen home runs, forty one RBI's sixty one runs scored. That batting average is six. The rest of the stuff it's like thirty and lower. But his own base percentage second in the nationally own on base pistrimmage. His slugging his fourth and until PS is third. He's got. Those are the numbers. I think like the real the the moneyball guys, they look at those numbers and say right, he's he's doing what he can, he's contributing his team, he's getting on basic scoring rounds when he when he's in position to do it. And and the other thing can't pitch. So what else you accepted from this? Cowboys gotta get better. A fielding defter. That came pits. The other thing you got to make sure is are they hollow numbers? Are they meaningful numbers? He's and I think they've been meeting. Oh my God, in Washington he's been like they've been meaningful numbers, right. Yeah, yeah, I agree. More recently, more recently, yeah, because he's known to hit some Solos Psalm. I think every one of us, all of them, that bobby first is the first thirteen. Yeah, yeah, that tells you nobody's getting hold in front of him. But he's very can you know? Yeah, he's definitely come up big in the last month or so and I agree. If he does carried a team even to a wild card spot, you know, not necessarily division spot, but a wild card. I don't know if they're still in the running for a wild card. If they don't want the division now they're out. No, he know something, definitely. I know what? Yeah, the two teams from Anna lest sure. Yes, that's true. At least he's definitely in the running for the MVP and and and I'm a guy that was I wasn't totally disappointed him in him up until now, but I was whatever the next level down of being. I was let down by him. I really didn't think he was earning his money and he, you know, in the field he was better than I think he came as advertised. I think he's better at defensively is then he was advertised as and he does a lot of raw stuff. That only goes so far in the pros. You know, it's great for the fans and whatnot, but whether your teammates and whatnot, it doesn't mean a whole lot to them. And and his his numbers were a little week up until up until the season and the last month or sels six weeks. I'm good, good know what happened. The weird balls got doc holiday numbers getting retired. We want to touch on this a bit. Is Number get retired? This shit? I know somebody did want to touch on it. I just gave my opinion last and so the question is doc, he deserves to be in the ring of honor, but the wall fame, whatever they call it, there the wall fame. Anybody disagree? They're no. No, doc getting his number retired. Yeah, thoughts on that? I think the concess the consensus with the Santa Bu first group chat was not really yeah, you like it, great player, but not long enough for the phillies and only two of those years were productive years. He was four years warriors. The retiring is number after four years. Yeah, to too great years to so so years. Yeah, that we wasn't he hurt the one his last year here was her. Yeah, did he win it SI young? Yes, yeah, he did. He did. Anyone here? Yeah, he went. He won the side young. And they correct me if I'm wrong. But like looking back, if Philly's history, he probably have the second best pitching like seasons and other than Carlton. Yeah, well, no, he did, but I'm saying, but it's only two years that were really good. He also also he hater. I three, I agree, but much. That's not...

...enough to retire number after one season. Yeah, to me they need to be a special player that's been here for why, at least six, seven years, years, a couple years in baseball. I would even take four when I thought you could holidies for if it's a four dominant years, if he if he be, if he was really good all four years, I would like. I would consider any more if they I know I said I agree with you last night. Didn't a great he's no good. I liked your comment about retiring as number, but I've thought about it. I've kind of but don't. Don't the phillies store Wade, but don't the phillies historically usually retire anybody's number too. That I was just going to say. I wish they were retired and how they didn't kind of go in Ato Blue Jay, he came in his both this chuck lines number retired or the Blue Jays with the Blue Jays retired it last year. Right. Well, that's the thing. So that's the thing that I do or say. Al Don't think you guys would make as big of a deal is if it was retired last year because ze or did he got in the hall of fame because a Covid? The phillies are doing this. It was supposed to be done last year. No, I and I would have rather seen them retire rollins before. Well, I think they will, but I also put rollins has been retired while there's an all time film. Yes, I agree, this is not at all times. Rollins is a top'sbody, great philly ever. Yeah, no, I agree, I howdy's not. I also said to you guys, and I'm not saying that this should be a reason why the Phillies, I think everybody that played for him or former players, probably were like, what can we do for this? You know what I mean, and and probably does have to do with the tragic I have. I have no problem with having him as a wall of fame and rote or a reality night. I have no problem with that. But a number is special. You know, that's something. Then I'm also there in that Corono and Philly both like jointly said, look at the maybe magic of maybe that we're going to both retire his number. Were maybe gonna do this for Brandy and the family and it's a shame that it had to come to that. All right, his death to retire his number. But and if that's not the main reason, but I'm just saying. I can't remember if we had the conversation. It was a subject in the potluck Thursday night about the retiring Jersey and howing uh they heat were retiring Jordan's number and the mavericks were retired stick Bryant. Yeah, I remember rememberly unrelated to understand, like the one comment that somebody said last night, which was like oh the dog, the broncos retired Dalkins number. It's a little different because dogs did make an impact. Like nobody could sit here and say doctor have an impact of Philly. No, he did. Two years. It's two year, two years. I think that's what that's what you're saying. Now. It's only two years, but you're going to hear young doc and he's retired in the whole. Are you going to retire? Nick foles is number I would know you're not. The Eagles won't. He got a statue. Doc. They got a statue, but not so retires up and then they got a banner said they remove the statue. That they really yeah, that's The statue moved where. It's no longer within the concourse. It's that side of the stadium. Ah, that's where I love how they do all this where it always was. Now in the stating, the parking outside. Yeah, the parking. That's just so people can get pictures with it. Aw, wow, that a Parson to. That happened last year. Now happened. They just happened today. We got we got pictures down a draft night with it just happened today. I believe I saw our twitter earlier. Wow, yeah, that's pretty funny. Yeah, to your point about Dawkins and Howiday a bigger impact. How they he's an individual making that impact. Dalk is playing on it on a you know, in a team environment, whereas doc is the one throwing the ball. Nothing starts until he does his thing. You know what I'm saying. So he has a he has a bigger chance to make a great impact as an ever. But I'm just saying, like Dawkins impact in Denver right was compared to how are you now? Yeah, like, yeah, you will grow. You talking about on the field or off the field? Well, I mean off to feel how they did a lot too, but I'm sure Dawkins did a lot off the field in Denver. I'm sure did. Yeah, but, as we were talking before we came on right, players don't get their numbers retired or go to the hall of fame because of what they do off the field. I agree with you. It's what they are just gonna tell him. If this is what I've really believed, by how they I think the phillies did it because Toronto did it. I think it's because he's a hall of Famer. But the biggest reason, I think, and I could be completely wrong, but this is what I really believe, is that the players that played before him, they wanted to do something on a documents family and I think that maybe that's why they did it. And I know some people are saying, well, do you organize organization? Should not retire players number based on the players. But like if it was a unanimous decision, everybody had played with him and people in the organization. That might have been why they did it. All right, he's not up on the wall fame yet, right, I don't. I think he did go. He is that he's gotta be. I don't think he is. Oh, he is, because jess did it. Yeah, yeah, O, he was. Still he was, but I think so. This is what I really think.

I think that they did the last year Toronto and Philadelphia, right, because he won in the hall of fame last year and then covid happened. I'm thinking that's why they did it. It might have been a joint decision, but whatever, I'm glad that they're doing something. I mean it's nice that they're doing it. And you know, he's a great one of greatest pictures ever, greatest pitcher probably in my lifetime that I've seen. So I mean it's a wonderful gesture, but I just don't think there's Great Phillie picture of your life time. Yeah, now, greatest overall picture probably. So I've time over all, not over, but you got to consider it the grom and Strausburg to stretched. Yet stars burn out of here. Yeah, I'll give you the grom per sials injury. I'll give her. Shall put that? Dude, you have one. And then are he had more than one? Good? Maybe Paedo? Maybe Paedo, maybe a dry signed that contract every one the world series. I think he's pitched twelve meetings since he's got paid two under that. Prior to the world series he was good, but here, but he got hurt and then they ain'twered on with the anyway. Were anything so hyped up to be the next greatest? Yeah, and he got hurt and he was good. He was very good. But you don't think he retirefuls number nine now did he's the only city. One season, one, one playoff run. Maybe a quarter back. That's one of Super Bowl and eagles history. That's why I would first be had the twenty seven touchdowns. He's right, right. Yeah, what it though round would you hear his his tenure with the Eagles and what he did for the Eagles, versus and the sea? It sounds even weird coming out of my mouth now, but versus, what doocted for the Phillies is more. I think he did more for the eagles than what docted for the phillies. Yeah, because he want a championship, because he wanted as if the phillies won the world series that year. Today had a hundred and some wins. Would you say that he should get his number retired? I don't know. I maybe, I would probably consider it more because they brought him a championship, but it's it's still too short of a timeline. It's too short of it timeline spent here. That I don't I just I mean, I see, but I don't know. It's like being like really liking doc. I just think it's a love right, he's great. Jeff Doc was, you know, he's my fair picture. Think the Phillies, you know, like I said, I think you know, maybe the phillies players or somebody that. I think there's a lot of people inside that work about the option that you know what I mean. So Andrew Chiming and said I think they should retire number eleven. That's we all agree with. Yeah, yes, Rawlins Roulin should be should he should be the first if they do retire anybody from that world series team. He should obviously be so first I think they're going to wait and do them all like once, like Rowlins. Hey did do that two thousand and nineteen. They had a wall of fame night for each of them. Yeah, so I'm thinking, which was smart, but because that's, you know, easy selling, when Hamill right, when Hamils hangs it up, I wonder if the four actually, you know what, they should probably retire hamials before Rollin's. HMM. See, that's what I'm saying, like they're animals. Come on, that, dudes, top two picture in Philly history. But you say world series because you want to make maybe top because if you're saying because he wanted world series MVP, that year was really his best year. He didn't have a he was okay. He never got he never got any run support. He didn't, I don't think it never got anything more than like two runs in game. I don't think I'd be against it, but I don't think he'd held dominants. If you know, I've found dominant dude. I think they should all go in together because when you think about the weight, I think of Hamls, I think of utly, I think the rounds powered and Howard. I will put them all together one night or one week a keep doing one. Now. Now there's numbers. Now, I think. I think, if you're going to do any from that team, it's either hammals or round. Okay, so hammals. Arounds will be top too, but at least up there too, like if only gets in the whole. Yes, same this problem. Would Ali, though. He's my favorite Philly. We loved his style of play. I mean he didn't always put up the numbers. If and he was hurt a lot. Do you think I'll LEA's gonna get in the whole? Name and no, Ronn should be an all right. Should yeah, I hundred percent a great. I've said on the show the last couple of years. He was here all. He never look at those numbers. He never really saw you. Never really put up amazing number. Retiring at least number would almost be like retiring do stall. He's numb right, exactly like you. No, no waiting now, the hell of very all. He meant more to the phillies and doosted that the eagles. Dude was good at his pride, but all he was very good. I'll he wasn't great, but he's better than do sear probably a couple season where you could have said out leaves maybe the top. He's just because he was a best second basement base from him and in baseball for a little bit, just like Rolins. Trying to I'm trying to national league. Was the parcel here. That's short start, a parallel to another player. Yeah, that would be like it'd be like the flyers retiring. Lindross are you were tired. They're already retired. Dure it.

Well, heels, he will probably get retard because I love that dude, under achiever, but I don't know, it's a good I'm trying to think of a comparison now. I can't. We'll figure it out. It's six years retired. I want to know if every filly other than Tony and Holliday's numbers are retired. Six ers retiring. You could dollars on tire you like that. What's right? If, if every philly other than Tomy and holidays, I think that's retireson because that's what could be. Dollars are very tight here. Number it was this team star. Yeah, he was the one that got us to mediocrity and Utlee was utterly was everyone loved. You got dollar not everybody loved big would. Yeah, don't. I think a majority of this family people were, I think a lot of able want realize. They realized he couldn't carry a team by himself. Yeah, and then that started turn into why see the main guy? Yes, they tried to build around them and they won one playoff series. Was I was about its been simmons getting his number retire. All right, what we'll talk a little sixers. Yeah, Talk Little Eagles. That, I feel like a good spot to take a break and we'll come back. We'll talk training camp, we'll talk NBA free agency and maybe a couple of the little points on the way out the door. All right, so hang with us. We're going to take a quick break. You are listening to the santabood first podcast. Insure sleek doctor. We can parison shop all the time ripe and the chief on Amazon. What will the store brand seat? Should I get a second? I st of it on this remodel. So why not do that for your insurance needs? Better yet, why not have someone comparison shop for you? And in sure Phillycom you can get up to ten quotes and about ten minutes with top insurance carriers like progressive travelers nationwide. Selective, liberty, mutual and compass, Kemper and Berkshire Hathaway owner agent Matt Maloney provides top national carriers with top local service. Just go to insure phillycom to get your quote online, or call Matt at two hundred and five zero zero, five nine zero. For All your insurance needs, auto, home, life, business and medicare insurance plans, make sure to go to insure phillycom today or call two hundred and five three zero zero, five nine zero. Matt Maloney gives you the national carriers you recognize from a local company you can trust. Insure phillycom. MMM, we are back, probably Santa boot first podcast coming to you live from the correct belt production studios, thanks to our sponsor into your Phillycom, Matt Maloney, the MPA agency, get up to ten quotes and about ten minutes, and also to our friend, our buddy arm piled like Jason Fig and POPs McCain's whiskey. Thanks for keeping US hydrated. All right, we are back now. Football started tonight. We mentioned that earlier. Dallas Pittsburgh. With just any score update there makes still free nothing. Yeah, still three nothing. It's a barn burner. It's Defensive Mason, Rudolf versue, Benduga and the NUCI at the FSA. Gilbert, Oh, Gilbert grape is in there. Yeah, kilber curve, who's playing for Pittsburgh, Rudolph Clay Claypool got hurt on a big pass. Imagine that. Those the eagles with some will dance, but they get her. But, you know, like rigor again or something. She's but they're they're running. Harris. Harris is the yeah, I did, I just I'll just looked up the stats. I gave him like ten carries already. The Harris is still in there, all right. So all you famasy guys out there, there's are Kay couple Nimes in there. I got skypel what couple weeks away from draft season, drafted the other it's mock draft season right now. It is, it is. I'm getting excited. Oh Man, I just from a little fantasy talking here. As the season comes around, I think we're talking about doing a little something for the listeners. Yeah, yeah, suicide pool type thing and maybe a little listener versus the team type weekly DFS. So as we get closer to the season we'll put some details out there and they'll be some swag in it. Maybe this is snything that it's so close. Yeah, and it's like a blink of an eye, like it's Super Sunday and then your blank in its Oh, training cams back. I'm a total I'm a total nerd Geek when it comes to fantasy football. So like I got on vacation Saturday, I got my books ready. I'm going to go to staples tomorrow pretting out some of my sheets and I'm gonna be I'm just going to be there now. I'M gonna be in it for days. Just have I got a minute on the beach. I have my face in the fantasy magazine or looking up stuff on one of the APPS and I'm ready to go. Are you boys big fantasy football? I am. I love fantasy football. Yes, big money. Fantasy League guys defined Danny de Fine, big money. I don't go much beyond that. I would talk in three figures or not...

...like five fingers. If you spend probably over five hundred dollars, I would say that all right. I could say that I have. Yeah, I am. I am not an Eve Lee wordy enter fees hundred and sixty, but I split that with my brother in the law. Okay, I am I am not big money fantasy leak. There's yours. I mean I'm in a hundred dollar fantasy. I have one is a two hundred dollars in one, two hundred and sixty. I think it's going off to this year and then I'll do some DFS and I'll do some just regular gabling through the season. So yeah, it's a season to lose money, but that you want all that. And then your boy Paul spencers and must be halftime, is it? Watching that barn burner. Three nothing pause. He started ring, he heark that boys. Then he here gabling. Somebody's calling me. What's going on? Fall Spencer's F speaking of Paul Dallas Dallass with nine your arn that's a shape. But are that defense is ready for the Super Bowl. So we'll say our defense. You know that. How's our defense looking? So I was taking better I got the opportunity to go down at a training came it was pretty cool and being up their clothes and seeing these guys. Some of the guys just look you see them on TV, you know they're big. On occasion you could see him a little closer and you know they're big, but some of the guys out there are huge, like my Lata. He's going to be our tackle for years. If the guy is finally figured out, if out of play, woring footwork and get the protections does, this guy is a beast. The Guy don't. You might even fitness room to dude so big that nick gave the dollar. I think it does. I think it's another big pick by happily, that was a brutal pick by Holley. Not. It's the game, is it, though? Because you needed it, was right at the time and the value you got him at her and you can't do you can't predict an injury, so you cannot. But what was he doing before? He was pretty good. He was the best. He was the best offensive left tackle on college football. Yeah, Abso, not now, let's get it. Don't get to it. He was the best passing left tackle and you know, councentious and they were trying to do that for wins little. Yeah, and it was the right tune there. Yeah. So is the mistake? That not moving one of them, and you off see it will be if you don't get because one of them gonna have to get paid right right. Yes, still already still want his rookie contract. So that's cheap. And my lot, a lot hasn't been paid in my lot of producers this year he's gonna come knocking the million. Where's my money? Australia a hundred million. But here's the thing. I don't think he's act. I don't think he's that type of Godass for under million. But he's gonna want money. He's gonna get he's gonna get paid, he's gonna get leader. You think he's gonna get top market level? I think. I think fifteen million year, at least five years over fifteen. They guess that's sound. The Eagles at a position. I mean will absolutely, they will paid on it. Jason the leaders' yess, yeah, for Jason Peters is different, my we told about Jason Peter. That's true. Is But right, it's a position. Yeah, it's different. Now, though, these guys get paid left and right. Right, I was gonna say, look at the Gen Jason Peters played. I mean not total later end of Peters career. You know, he didn't. He didn't. He was getting hey when he was at the end of his career. Just the W's. I'm saying like that's he kind of it's a high premium position. That now second most important position on the team. Mean, look at but didn't they die from the colch just get like four years, eighty two million or something. And he I've never even hurt him before, but he was a left hack or right tackle, like they get paid after the cult. Quinton Nelson, he's a guard, isn't? Yeah, but that's the one I know. But he got a lot of money. Didn't need like for hundred and seventy two. Maybe the best guard Sam Castanzo. No, maybe it was Nelson. Maybe, Yeh inside, but either way then that tells you tackles get paid more than guard. Offensive lines is valued like crazy now. Yeah, because, I mean not that they didn't realize it before, but now it's just so important because all these quarterbacks, these franchise quarterbacks, get hurt because a bad offen or they get ran to the ground from just taking too many hits. I mean, I think you gotta Pay Mou may a lot. I'll wait to see how he does this here, but I'm saying if he's a big year, you gotta Pay Right. Yeah, but the thing with Dillard, that still question because coming out of college he was a good pick dealer. Not a lot of people knew about him, but he was a good pick dealer. Was Rumor you getting that deal for that quarterback? Yeah, do it. Dellert to be in that? One of them is going to be in a deal for sure. And that's the thing I feel like with how he's Ego, he's gonna say no, you're starting dillard because it's going to look good for me. Not, he's not gonna say this, no, no, no, it's a first round pick. Yeah, but if and it looks bad, it doesn't make it look sped. You know how he look at how he's track record? I don't. I think maybe, if it's true that the reports were true, that he hasn't had he gets to say who starts on Sundays and who doesn't. He's going to start dillard. They might play day for scissors. Djer start. I think he's got to the point. Don't know where he's...

...known where to cut his losses. Look at last year. Now Sean coming back and fold the Bension dogs and whence is gone, when it's going, he's the the Wo Mattie. I get it, but I may well how he he go always gets the best. Agree, but melt of will start day. Want. I hope he does it. USTER, if he's the real the real value and talent, I we don't want. We don't know what Dilhard is. Yet you hear these rumors and training camp that he, you know, gets beat or he's not there yet, right, but you don't know because you never really seen him on the field. We saw him for how many snaps last year? I mean, Leturty, yeah, I mean, but let's also like think about to the year that we went to the Super Bowl. You need to have a backup, so maybe he's the backup. He's like you're saying he's by tie right, like, and then why can you? He's played all was he the one that's played all five positions? I don't know, differson, because just going to ask them. Well, yeah, are resident Lineman here. How easy would it be to ask Dillard to move into guard if you're worried about like a guy right in Brooks and his injury history? But yeah, we're saying, Amalu, like, can you move Dillard in the guard? Or if Kelsey goes down? He's a big freaking guard. I don't know. I'm pretty defense the line. So that's I'm sorry, I thought you were in the offense. Can he play nose tackle if you if he needs a swet? No, DJ can I switch? I can we flip him to the other side of the line? Is it easy to go from a tackle to well, what, from my left tackle to right tackle? No, knows. Tackle. Yeah, no, not he. I don't think he's. Yeah, anywhere do that, anywhere at all. You gotta. You gotta be able to move. It's a completely different stances as a completely different position. Obviously only certain people can kind of switch like that, but it's a mindset to think of. You know, I mean with defense. You know, man, it's a completely mindset. You got to have that, that different mindset to be able to play defense. And I'm I'm I'm not sure about diller man, I'm really not. But I'm not sure about playing my a lot either. Like he's not he's very unproven and he hasn't shown. He's shown that he at best. He's a backout. And you want to give him a hundred million. Ye, he ain't get a hundred I agree with you. There day he won't get as a hundred million dollars. But if he he played well, assure I'm not saying I think he proved he can be a starter. I don't. I'm not saying that want to give him a hundred billion. I thought it's not my money. Yeah, first off. But yeah, if he proves this season that he's the tackle, what he and what are your other obvious? Yeah, Dillard, I mean, look at look at like I'm just looking right. They got other guys. He tried to like dress calls a tackle right, but he got hurt last year. He looked at you're just a line and up he was just line. Wasn't young guys? Wasn't he your guard? He was playing guard, like don't he was drink. He was. But I think when Brooks went down then they moved developed him in a guard. I thought confusing with her big. That's a her big had a good year. Yeah, it's DRISCOO got her year. He didn't. Yeah, in the wash it was a lot. We won. I mean, if you wants early, if you want to get paid by a top five tackle like you got trump. Williams, obvious, he's not him. He's twenty three million. And you got the guy from Green Bay's twenty three tackle Bachel or whatever. Holden Miller, who's okay, right for Las Vegas, he's decent. He's eighteen million GARA bowls from Denver is seventeen million. And then you got what Taylor Luan from? Yeah, see, I don't think he gets paid like that, but I don't think he's not taking wire. I mean, that's not point, DJ About Front Office is kind of sort of dictating who's going to play who's not going to play. They will do that to a certain point because they don't want to be embarrassed by making a bad pick. Yeah, but eventually, now, let me finish the thought. Eventually they're going to eventually they're going to realize that it's a mistake to keep playing certain plight. You know, when they get to that position, they realize it's a mistake to keep playing them, because bottom line is, it's about winning games, right, and when your draft picks start openly affecting you not winning games, then you need to cut your losses and get rid of not whatever the that's true player is. Yeah, that's where I think they are with Dillard, because Dillard's been around there. This isn't his second or third year, they will know it's start here as this third year. Yeah, it's the third year he was here. Do that for a year, two where they'll insist on playing somebody, but they're on the COSP of saying now we can't keep playing them if he's not proven himself and they're going to have to they're going to have to play my lot. Hen after one. How long was once here? Five? Yeah, yeah, it was two thousand and eighteen. I thought the year the you did, he hit his his rookie country. You'd have that. To your point, though, he could also how he's like. You Know Howe has an ego. He could be called. Look at this diamond and the roll. If I look at the other thing is eventually they realize my job is on the line here because I'm making these bad picks that can't play right. Right. So I need to start. I need to get the guy in there that can play, not the guy that be because how many times, where? How many times is have we seen the eagles put guys in...

...that? You know that we as fans and viewers know. Sure, aren't good, but they not just trying to think this guy's good. All teams do it, not just a look at look at linebackers last year. You're telling me Dave on Taylor doesn't deserve snaps over NAP JERRY? Yeah, that's how he but that's and where's Jerry at Sam Fra School, probably doing a my. No, he's gone. Yes, but they still gave him the starting reft. Yes, because we were probably a hotter trade. No, he was on drifting. Now he was like a six of seventh round. But right, third may, here's a third round play. Here's a perfect a dead boar. Dj is kind of right. Is the fact that I right. I'm always right. Sir. You know, after if you think about it, how many Greek Games and Travis folkem calls? I'm saying freak at least the best receiver for five weeks in a row, alshon comes back from injury. Oh, I'll shy back in full court. You don't they they were paying out Sean, they were. You don't know. That's what you're that's what I'm saying, though. How is he going? The Front Office will say, no, this is better for I don't see, because it's our money and it's our dress. After the second or third game, fom really started to drowne did looks number she was a he was a number one receiver for five weeks, yes, but then they also said he had started to drop off. He had surgery after the season. He said he drop he had he had an injury. And kind of impact was he making in the Games? Not Luck he holds on the field right, because he was dropped off. Here's the other I also think stoutland being there long time is like, dude, like look, this like seal and I feel like I'm a smart guy. Nobody value is old. Yeah, so that's where I value offensive line. STOUTLAND's like look, first of all, I tried. He wanted to leave, remember, and they wouldn't let him out of his contract. Yeah, so like, look, this is who I was going to Batma wasn't even saving. That's just boy. Yeah, I think this year is maker break year for Howey, no matter what. So I think how he's going to want to put the guy out there that are best in position to play and and not care about whether I look. I hope that how he's jobs on the line. Yeah, so, so he should realize that. So let me ask you this, and they know it's like yeah, it is. Well, I don't know. I know, I don't a hundred if sent, if Dillard don't if Billard doesn't work out and it hurts, and if he doesn't get something, if hurts doesn't work out or he doesn't pull a move for hurts, he's gone right and you here's. Here's the other thing. That too. I think he's on the honest play. I'm gonna play like looking at stats, far ahead right. Made a lot of starts the whole year, gives up one to two to three sacks, makes the pro bowl. You don't think he gets twenty million dollars a year? And No, no, not twenty million, dude. Dude, that's a lot. That's a number one. You just he got me the second highest paid tackle. That's what had. All right, sman, think about this. Guy Still be jumping the gun that question. Ask around the league. How many people know my lot is name if you're not an eagles fan, but I'm just saying, if you like, we can. We could probably name a couple left tax because a huge year and protect hurts and makes a pro bowl and gives up one or two sets. You don't think somebody in Free Age look at how much freaking money by Tai got for being a swing tackle on the super I think they're gonna they're gonna get in the season and I'm gonna have to pay one of them. So here's that. If it were not real, if you're not playing, Dillard, yeah, I guess if I get, if I would Holle, I'll be doing that. You know how he's good for that. That in season special. If made a lot of wow, well, I'm like, look, here's the money now and if you maybe that seen or fifteen million, just like you, you want to do it Nelson, like I firmly believe with Steven Nelson. If he plays really well, then are waiting. They did that would attend him. You know what. So you said fourteen million. I would do like eagles. Just happen to free of fourteen million dollars in it cap space stait. Am I going to break the news before Adam Schefter tomorrow? He goes agree with a five year fourteen million. Other with me. A lot of they restructured a couple contracts. Oh God, I know, free of money and that just brought it's either my Latta or defensive or rumor. Well, or more fires up. Better come rumor. Mill again. been a couple of massage places that have gone up and really so it could be that that move the one that we wanted. We want. Do we have to talk about I don't think it's. It's the biggest topic trouns. You have to talk about it. That potential Watson Trade. Hmmm, somebody else, and I don't even know who the guy was. That the guy. He had a blue check, he was a better, he was a verified account. Nobody broke. One thing, I will say. He did break some deals before and they said he is tied into the Houston head break, like the far ast buckler tree before it happened. And but here's the dess to do Phil. So what was it said? I don't know. We looked at a last night because I've seen somewhat. One of my friends sent in something with him previously, with like him breaking breaking news, and...

...it was wrong and he's been horrible. I want to you, guys, Jason Duma, it's like one of us. I wanted to you guys one night a week to just put out some type of prediction that we're just tell me. So it's so here again, one over, bat again, ones, someone's gonna hit one of them. Right, it's an extra clu planning included in that. I'll fly, he said on everyone. Yes, Machado is looking great in the choice. Looks like he's going to the Lakers next, or saying, yeah, I saw you, narrative down, but yeah, that's and Lakers. Go figure. Yeah, there was a report yesterday that heels and and Texans are having did auptions. You know it's heavy. Yeah, that's if they weren't heat. I'm going to pass four months and I'm listened in this morning on serious and Texans beat. Writer Says No way, hell, nothing's cooking. But nothing's cooking. But there's. There would be. So he's got he's got legal issues he's got to take care of. He's got issues with the police. Still there's a couple. Yes, he's got two different loss. Well, things going. NFL's gonna have to do their investigation. Yes, the teams going to do their investigation. And I'm not saying he's guilty or what. I'm just saying you have all these things lined up right and and what Houston apparently was asking for. Any GM in the right mind would not give that up for a guy that you don't even know. What he can do. I said any GM in the right mind. All right. So, Howe Roseman. So look here. If Hall No, but he said I'll give you two second round picks. I'd say, Howie, you got balls of steel. If they go for it, fine to second. I think the number went down a little bit. What are you saying? Like now it's too you don't this and two seconds you's. Last I heard. Watch it is not guaranteed. Watson's not a guarantee to play this year. So why are you going to take that rist? And if you're Houston, why are you to take that risk? Because there's a lot of teams right now there's using Houston's rebuilding. So he's not going to play under staff. Yeah, that's yeah, not gonna plays for Houston. There's a lot of teams right now that have young or rookie quarterbacks that they're not sure about. I don't think Miami sold him to it. No, are we soon? And when? When it all came out, Watson said he would want to go to my yeah, but we have more draft capital. But now, because we've miamies first, remember that. Yeah, but I'm got some saying. If you're Houston, you let the you let the gear play out. Yeah, I will let you have a bitty more. Yeah. The only thing I'm worried about is, like Schefter's been like banging down that drum that if they do a deal like it's going to be philly like. And you have there's been wrong before. He had. He has been a Schefter just saying that because he's on a Philly radio station and wants to get people. No, I mean he's like a he's wants again this pretty m national. He said on the national to like what did the show? I've only heard him say it on when he's on with Kincaid, but I heard the radio today that it was to beat reporters saying the opposite thing. One was like it's imminent and the other said and though, no shot. I I there's just too much involved with this guy. Have normal much package. It's just I agree. You don't, you don't know, you don't. Like Jimmy said, you got all these investigations that are going to need to be done. That could take a year pieces. MMM, he's going to be suspended at some point. He's not playing a full season this year. Know that's so. Why would you? Why would you? Risk doing because you're looking at the future. I get that, but you would so they have. We wasted a second dream, chick. Now you wasted more than that. The future could be sitting right in front of you, who's a stand up citizen. It could be hurts. I'm not saying it is. But here's the other thing's a rare brief from you. Gotta give him a shot from God to get the guy shot just he's deserved show. Just gonna call it like I see it. From a par this is a PR nightmare. If the eagles make this move, because have done the moves before, that doesn't they brought him like the dude. This is a little different. Mike. Yeah, I agree. It's a lot of wofferent but, like my thing that is fal standpoint, and I've talked to plenty of females that are like our actual eagles. Yeah, none of them. None of them will support him, and I don't think I can see eagles just hired or two women has the highest as a pro scalt personnel. There's a VP somewhere. Like how do they look at that? How do you support a guy like this? You know what I mean? Like, unless you can prove the fact that you know it is a little strange. Like, I will say that lawyer that's, you know, connected, lives in the development of the Houston owner. It's all. Yeah, they after that. There's twenty five. The cases are there, but there's an avenue one. You know what I mean? The Guy. There's something there, there's something right. Yeah, he's on instagram. Send the messages. I agree, and I don't think you touch it and I don't know. I don't. I agree. Look, the guy's a top five quarterback when he's healthy and plays as best. I think everyone agrees with that. Yeah, so that's why there's all this talk about because he changes your team into a contender. But just there's just so much baggage and uncertain deal around him that I don't think I want to take the risk and mean, what if it could have here? Can you root for this guy if he's here? Oh, people will find a way. No, you, you're guy to alien. May Be really female fiddle being. It'll be exceptionally hard, but people...

...will find a way to root for you're going to alienate all your female I agree. Look, I agree. The NFL has no moral like the NFL that went out the window really not. So they don't care. But I'm saying as a fan and as a support of the team, I don't know how you root for and I'm I don't think we can. So it's hard. It is hard, even if you brought home with Super Bowl. How do you? But think believe in Karma? That like if we trade for him and he was guilty, whole tears nay or something, and it'll be like yeah, you know, maybe I don't want to go down that route. I really want to see what Jalen hurts has and I will. I don't. I also think you really F with the Locker Room if you make this move. Yeah, it's like, yeah, guys are behind Jalen hard so if you turn around, no way, pull the wall lower. I agree that your guys, your locker rooms going supporting hurts and they're supporting their gout and then you bring in this dude who could be a total scumbag. Like that's not good right. It's not good. It's not for anything, because then you have guys saying they really trade it for this dude. I mean you took a risk with hurts as a sec around pick and then you want to go out on this. Get this dude who's got a ton of baggage and and he'll still how do I tell my how do I tell my girlfriend and wife and my daughter said, hey, we just trade it for this guy. That's why I think about right. I think about that like having a daughter. How can you support a guy? Yeah, you guys. Yeah, how the Hell could? I D like, that's anything marking with you, like everything your how they you support a guy that that like as basically sexually saw two females, treated them like pieces of crab. Yes, cold is disrespected them, he has no respect for them. How do you bring this guy in your organization? Said, now, do your alienating? If Your Fan, I guarantee you to. You think about people like Brandon Graham that are man of integrity, that are sitting home with two daughters. Yeah, come on, m like, come on, that's be real. That's why I am when I would love to get the tail Dawkins. Now I would love to get Dawkins perspective on. MMM Right, Clemson guys. Does he know them? As he heard? Like that's a guy that the city loves, the team respects one and I don's got say anything. I don't think you say you travel. Agree, had like or something like home aside, and this seemed like you're type. But the show want you know when Andy were you got a good guy there and there. It hurts. You don't need this. Yeah, Guy just and kind of hurt and do that and hurts. His showed his talent at that. Not the highest level yet, but in college, Dude, ball house level. Let me well, mcmah has made a good point. Yesterday and you were a camp. They're like, I'm gonna be honest for you. Hurts. You see some which is a second your quarterback that's only had for four starts. They said. You see some plays where he does something that are really good and then you see some things where he makes mistakes. But that's that's nicer. That's the nature of a say, yeah, if you look at those Shawn Watson first four starts in the League compared to Jalen hurts is for first starts in league, hurts his better numbers in de Shaw motts and the and hurts. That a really bad and that's only four his like that. But that's all I'm saying. He's essentially still a rookie right. There's any games meant not meeting they right, yes, right, yeah, any, and you surround them a more talent. Yeah, the offensive minds healthy. Yes, I have to go famer shot. You have a guy that is a man of Integrat look, I mean, I'm not saying hurts. We don't know anything. He can seems like a very up as a guy that works his ass off. Yeah, and just comes across as a guy that you would want to be the face of your friend. Yeah, you Spanish second man, Dre, pick on this guy. Everything the guy says, I stand by. Right. I another reason why, how he's is is on a lie. Just P grage. Right, yeah, we all just paid our rent today. It's do every day. It's I don't want to live. I don't want to live where rents do every day. But apparently hurt's world it's doing it's but when Andy ree was here, you know, he was a man at when we had them players. Where they when they took my game a tona say. He was a second chance kind of guy. Jeoffrey lowry is a very progressive owner either. Most progressive running and probably so those things came into play with Michael Vick. That being said, Andy Reagional longer here. I don't know if Sirianni's a second chance here. Sirianni Serriannis, that's been changed here. Yea a second second chance guy. Or not? You still have Jeffrey there? I don't know. I really don't think it's. You know, it's worth the words. Not Yr hit. It's take a chance on this guy. And Andrew just made a great comment. I'm assuming he's talking about hurts. He said he is Philly like hurts. When you think about it is he's got the filling mentality in the rocky, I give it her stock, but he's got the mentality of a of a true little of that comment where he says I want to get one percent better. Everything's Love. That actually says it to I love it too. Yeah, it actually said it's to here's love it. And look at the way he handled that situation. laster. What did he say when he came in? He didn't like he came in as they it wasn't cocky at all. Worked...

...his answer. Yeah, the guy that was outside practice the players were talking about acting like he was a starter from day one. That's where you want in your backup quarterback. That's what you want, and he hasn't chance. Hurts. Is the right amount of cocky without being obnoxious. I don't want that. You know. I will say this. I just got the right at it. I don't like the way that Sirianni's like, oh well, we don't have to say it yet her. He hasn't hearned it yet. Like everybody knows, suck. That's coach speak. The coaches are gonna do that. Yeah, Tom Brady's competeing for his JEA. Exactly. You can't ground and say it. Yeah, you can't. Can't do that background check on his rent to make sure you know where's your rent? Everywhere's the references? Right? Maybe hurts. You're doing doing everything right now. Yeah, right. To have this city of him come first quarter and we will on the way. If he's not got all change, yeah, they will. Boo The hell. Oh, absolutely. Yes, he can say everything he wants to say, he can cross all and cross all the teeth down all the eyes, but at the end of the day, if you ain't winning, yeah, you know I mean. But here's a lie. I think just as importantly, not only doesn't need to win, but he needs to show improvement also if he's if he's not progressing, then people might suck start the question whether he should be started. I will say this. I'm I'm personally and I agree with you a hundred percent eight that the fans will turn on him quick for sure. I would let you know. I'm sure not a lot of eagles fans are going to listen to Smitty, but I would say like I would preach pace. AM preach patients with the guy. I would I would preach. I will say this. I think this is the first season in a long time that the fan base is going into his season with zero expectation to say, yeah, I don't think it. I don't people. I don't think people will be very quick to turn. I think he's got a bit of a runway. I think they'll be. I'm set a little disappointed that they didn't come out on fire, a little flat, but I think if they're not, here's not a lot of it. There's not a lot of expectations UND team this year. He's done. See, I going to want them out. I don't know about went wasn't a five hundred. I don't know about that. Yeah, but he is first perfect. If they're that's sure. That's yeah, it's true. They're not a five hundred team and they're getting a races handed to them every Sunday. Yeah, yeah, if they compete, if they could pete, I'd have to go back and look at the schedule. Like they start when they got like land, and it's same free, like they have something. He's the first. The first half the schedules is easier, better, right, yeah, but they're going to we're seeing teams like Casey, Rand A, La Tampa by. Yeah, so he's going to take some lumps. Yep. Yeah, if you're that's all the second half of the season. So they're starts out owing free pains and and that owed three. He's like throwing the ball thirty percent. It's got like two touchdowns. Game Four, yeah, we're going to be in his ass. Yeah, came for you're going to see Joe FLACCO. That's what he's doing. Jesus Christ, I think. I think he's got a bit of a runway. I don't think we're going to turn. I think I think you're right on. If he goes three, you going to hit the FLACCO noise. I don't think find go. I think you'll hear them trait and trey, Shaun Buston third's trigger, UN to the colts. Dude, if you I'm gonna say that. If he goes to the colds, as are soon, wentz is brough, that's awesome, I think. I think once is mentally broken already. I agree with you. I just don't think that. Guys Not Your Business, like the media when they got upset with that, can't handle any type of criticism. Now he can't, not even criticism of question. All right, I can't remember exactly what he said, but Frank Roy kind of shut that down today. What about? Or yesterday, whenever Nick folds going there? Hold on, hold on, he shut that down. Joe Joe White just made a comment. All right, let's hear it. The Eagles won't mean any thing until after the phillies goes the drinking world series. One first off, the phillies could win a world series and the Eagle was so be then number one talk in the town. The parade would be yelling over like it's some of the first wrapped up and for yes, like come on, Jose, been drinking. Yeah, it's right. Yeah, I will say this if you like. One thing that's strange that the eagles did is they have to have something up their sleeve, whether it's a trade, whether they're extending God her, but like they opened up fourteen and a half million dollars, maybe earn the finally getting his money knocks. I mean they could be setting themselves up so they have money and are they're planning to keep? I don't really know what free agents are out there, so I'm not thinking. Don't think there's anybody out think and extend way trade and extensions. A Guy Extend? Well, they've already talked about extending daughters and made a lot of extension standers. I don't think. Sander, aren't you want to come back? I don't say that. I don't think the eagles value running backs that they're going to pay him like Kamara money, which is what supposedly he wants right now. He GAM he get any type of I want it high level and I love Penn State. I want to give him come o money. Fifteen, sixteen seven. That's how that's out right. I wouldn't get a Kamar come. I want to pay you running back. Yeah, you don't pay running backs. Just don't write. But if you can get him for like a fair deal,...

...right, you bring them back I don't know. But he also let me see what he does this year, right, I mean he's got two more years left. Yeah, so if he does, if he has a good year, and you're not going to sit at all, he's move trading exactly. Get him now, be Roo. It's up. Yeah, but miles, miles, once money. Seems like the type he is. That's pen staate, guys. It is so great. Once they got I really are greedy. Just turn around the wait. We can just hold bout the pajam down created speaking. Agreed. You guys a about Aaron Rodgers. What do you do? I don't know. Listen. Did you guys see his press conference? I got gotta do. Agreed. It did, like I agread you, guys. What did you want him to say? That's what I'm saying. You guys know my perspective. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, he's very overrate in my mind. I appreciate his honesty as a player coming down doing it. I appreciate his honesty at the same time that I missed it. So he gripped the pack, he came back and what he got? cobbed. He came back, showed up and in his first press conference he let it all. Basically just blasted the organization. They don't get me involved. I asked him to get me involved. They're not get me involved. Was He at Lambo field when he did this? Yeah, it was. He definitely told them here what I'M gonna say. But one thing I will say. You think he told him? Yeah, because I still gave him the money, regardless of he was getting money, no matter what. He could have gone out and then said that Bret Shit. And if you go out and rip the franchise like that, dude, he ripped everybody here. He ripped the front. Everyone loved it. He he should have did that. Stopped himself. He said I love the fans of the city out of the organ and he stopped at like you think that was on purpose? Know, you think that he's a very bitter diva and he put it out there. And look look who he dates, though. We look, yeah, he has. He won an look, I get it, he's been an MV. Dude, he's pretty damn good. I know he's overrated. He's a first bell whole fame. Right, use her first bell, Dude. Wow, Aaron Rodgers, here here's years waiting. Are you kidding? Matt here's a big guts here. Here's what. He's the third best quarterback in the packers history. In the back quarterbacks. My biggest question is, is Aaron Rodgers wearing his shorts back where inside out with the Logo Zach Hurts? But seriously, Aaron Rodgers spoke, which is what I would love all players today. Yeah, I want to hear how want to hear that you've been paying this guy for years and he's been your best player and like he's like he really took shot to the orgization. Like yeah, a couple million dollars, you didn't bring this guy back. This offensive alignment went to come back Jordy Nelson. But, like, here's the thing. He's not about in any decisionmaking. So what's he care? He should that's my point. You know, I know I get this. You don't think you let these guys not if he just said, I know he said he doesn't have a choice of voice in it. He's like they don't make titles. He feels entitled that he should be the GM of the team. No, I don't. That's how I think. When your are Rogers, you can have a little saying who you want. Right get out of here. Don't your tongue. You's Russell Wilson. Eaton L Russell once. Dude, Jim, you're nuts. You know who know what these quarterbacks have being Joe Montana Justin. Herbert Rogers had it before me. What's your opinion on on Aaron Rodgers being elected on the first ballot? Hell, yeah, sure, no, you got do. He's. He's, how one of the best quarterbacks ever. Don't hate you. You could say Rogers is the most talented quarterback at I might put them ahead of breeze. He's he could be the most talented quarterback ever. Put our riders ahead of drew brief. Dude. He's unreal. Some of his plays are ridiculous, and u see what closes it. I am just throws it to the end training camp tonight. It was yeah, I saw that. I saw that bat that you throw like you know. Yeah, and he right in there. Yeah, I saw that. Ridiculous. How many pieces? Three? Three, and he's a super bowl, mvpa superbowl winner. Isn't he gonna, isn't he? What's he had in yours? He's got to be stopping sixtyzeroy stopped, is gonna break breathe then they say to them, probably shatter some record. He's gotta be up there from neither wanted. You think you know. It's just Jim's first. Why isn't? Are you got to make anything trolling with that? Just beat it, Dick, get out. Maybe I'm playing my role. Maybe keep in my rooms. Is Eleven all time with fifty one thousand, two hundred and forty five. He's gonna Pass l eleven, the top ten eleven. So just let yeah, but Matt Ryan's, Oh Jeez, that just hurt all of our hearts than many. Shut up. Let's get the touchdowns.

Let's get the touchdowns. Closed his eyes. What do you threw them all? My God, all right, how many games of the packers wall click baiting and the last ten years, simply because of the rock he's he's eight. How many were record actual your dad totally disagrees with you say. That's all right. We agreed on likely earlier. We don't agree. He's seven full time with four hundred and twelve, but he's gonna be top five this year. And Brady's of five hundred and eighty one, Rogers of four hundred and twelve. So what's you gotta play? Six more years. He's very getting at thirty seven. Do you think we'll catch breeze? Is Brady so fun? A hundred and fifty. Brady's so playing. That's all. Yeah, Nex three really good years. That's three really good you think about it, that's like forty touchdowns. We do bring in the her rodgers in the WHO's the wide receiver, Dvante? Next year, have I green? I'll give him behind. He's the whole first round and he comes. If you just set the number nine, so he comes your next year. I'm retired number nine and give it to him. Oh my God it would you love him? where? Twelve? If? What? If I run an eagle? Would you think he was a that's what I just said. If, well, it all career. Not. Now, would you let him worth twelve? Isn't he twelve? Come he's twelve. Is Cutting him retired? No, because eagles don't just retire. Willy newly numbers and the cutting him saying all. But yeah, they should be an all of fame. They just don't pick in here. Yeah, he's changed position number each year to three. Tire Randall Pitch. Change your position. He's true. He's the most athletic, most athletic. Vic's probably the most athletic quarterback ever. Randall's right there in the hall famely Mam he shot. He's got really good numbers. So does mcnabb and I don't like I think what hurts him as they don't have change. I think. Yes, yeah, absolutely. Mvps, I don't know. Mcnabb has got Dan fouts numbers and Dan founce is in there with that a chamber. Ye, won't get it. Should he be? He's got the moody getting me. Should get in, and should Michael Vick get and Michael Vick revolutionized the game. Vick won't get it, but Mike Randall cutting him was Michael Vick before Michael. Yeah, so, and I agree that he doesn't get in. I think Randall set in. I don't think. I don't. I don't think Donovan should get in. Should Vic if Viket worked on his game and not relied solely on his talent, he would have been an all timer and he absolutely would be a Joe flaccer's nineteen all time in yards. Is He all? He's at least gotta. He's a lead, he's got a room, he's got the same number rings of Rogers's more men's allso sodas nick falls exactly what every try. Don't try. So Pres Super Bowl and many TESTA. What are you kidding? At a time right, don't wait. Me The best point on why ride. I saw that all fame. I agree with saw that. I just said his dating histories and the real think that consider who he dates. And you're telling me he's not a diva. I know Shit, he's completely are. Yeah, it's all. I'm saying. That thether. I think what he did was great. He liked rip the organization and they're still paying them. I think it's great because he's at Rogers, Ye Ken, he should get some say in the organization. All right, let me ash you just shoot. Think bryce Harper should have some say in the moves of Phillies make. I think you can express an opinion, but all, don't get all pissy when but they don't. Says, we don't have the money to go get you. These guys structure. I do not think players should have say and person Al Matters. You're beat. You're being paid to play the game, not being front of no shit. But it helps to have good teammates. Sah. That's what the Front office is supposed to do. We get the players not being players. Your choppers to grab play waiting cattrow hit. Do you think Kobe has and say do you think Lebron? I'm not saying they don't, I'm saying they shouldn't, because they're not paid to be front our first people. They're paid to be players. Yeah, but they want good teammates to win. That's what the front all this. They have a saying like here, take this guy, let it gonna go dud. How are they? They're getting to me. Jalen hurts, his more staid and our rodgers because they brought him the vote Smith for Jay Len urts. I was whatever, teammates a college. How many teams has randall cop played for in the last three years? Three, the candy rocks. He's gonna bring them back. And and what you gonna do? He's gonna Throw. He's gonna twelve chest the COB to make him prove a point that I told you I needed this guy cause a body and Charles Woodson's gonna come back for you at the secondary cop cops just above. I have no problem with your starbar player talking to the Front Office and say I'd like some help, but he's just who I'd like. Yeah, because they they might have a valued opinion.

He played it off like yet that he was never no, no, I need to have a big role. Yeah, and and I'm not really scary, to be GM, I'm not sold on coaches having that. More Jesus, they should have. They should have more say than players will. Manager's job, the scouting department's job, is to find players and to get them signed. Dude, let me just throw a name at you, hally Roseman. Yeah, exactly, the Phillies, for is that destroyer? It doesn't, because that's his job. Pies. He's not very there's valleys, but that's just the phillies front office and Scouting Department for the last ten years. But that's their John. I start getting dude. That's what they're paid to do. So I want a player or code because maybe a flare. See, it's not enough to be worried about player or coaching. There I gotta worry bat bring it in coldster on Aaron Rodgers said he had some insight that these guys would have took less money to stay with the packers and he would have communicated that to the front office. Well, they could just go in there and say it too, though. Well, yeah, why they tell the quarterback and not the GIS? Are The middle counts? Well, the packers don't have a GM right, or now they don't have an that's actually really the town of Green Bays like that. Fuck you. Yeah, right, the town. I love the tail of the tail. Don't love me. Sorry or pasty. He's got the nine o'clock ower cauld I drop. You have both weight athletes have said, and that's just the way it is now. I spick hems and moving players around. Let's get an MBA free agency. So the Lakers have put together the greatest men's league team ever to step on the NBA court. Don't the youngest players twenty three, and there's only one of them. I think that there's another play of the twenty six and the rfter all thirty three in above. Don't. Don't leave it to the right ages. Don't insult the Broun sexuals in here. Yeah, I will say that I don't think the Lakers will be good. Okay, but do you think Lebron on when he signs guys to minimum deals? You don't think they're getting money for on minimum deals to sign the minimum deals. Mellow, we didn't Yetah, he signed the League minimum. They all sign league minimum. This Week Malik Monk Signs League minimum. Are these guys? Are they? Are you really pissed off that these guys are going to the Lakers, though? Yes, because you are right. Gives a shit? Take a personally, there's not good, because they're taking league minimum. You get one bron breaking the SE. What's your parroget? What did Malik Monk Do? A share getting money, followed inn dear, and I may there, professional act. It's not college right. There's exactly their professional athletes, of course, professional player that has his own agency in the NBA. You think rich Paul was anything before Lebron James? Probably not, Dude. I mean a couple of James Basically set the league to be like, all right, I need Anthony Davis. This is what I need my agency, which is Clutch Sports, like he runs the League. That's what I have a problem. I don't have a problem with the Lakers getting a bunch of mid level free agents thinking they're going to make a difference, when they're not. I think it's gonna I think him and Russell Wisburg are gonna get going to be going about a deadline heart. I agree with you. Anthony Lebron, James, Anthony Davis and Russell WASTBROOK. They all want the ball. How's IT gonna work? And it tears one ball he's give me like, Hey, I like tt. You're really who attached? That's supposed to impress me as your fit starter? Is he going to start exactly is? Yeah, and then you got to wait our yeah, I know, for all season. Lad Wil be more. I'd be more. I'm more impressed. The sons are better put together. I am mean, this what New York is putting together now. The next brought back everybody. It's the same team to first of all, Kemba Walker came. Stay healthy. Ivan forgn Ya is the next. are going to be the same thing. In turn, they'll be a midlevel eastern conference. Yeah, maybe the maybe a four seed. The hawks are probably going to be pretty decent. The halls will be realized much right. They just resigned. Scroll back. Everybody toddy excited, our own guys. It didn't bring anybody in. Real Hawks are going to be a thorn in our side for a long time. So what are we doing to fix that when's been going exactly? That's what that's what's concerning the May the sixers ever really done much? Yeah, but they now grant at there's not much that had they had to fix. Well, Danny Green, right, they brought back Danny Green and you know you have created center, you seth sets coming back. You got a better back up for him beat. Hopefully a better backup, because nobody expected hour to be that good. Now we liked Howard. Howard was Howard? Was it alone, aligned of the Mike Scott Guys? Yeah, where you who? We live like God bye. Ye, Drummond is a better player and younger, but is he going to be as good in the role? I don't know, but I hope he is. Obviously he's an upgrade on paper. I just find it super...

...interesting that the sixers hired Damien out, yes, trainer. I don't think anything. I think that's like the Shaun Watts. I think it's all just smoke. I don't think any. Why would you hire somebody from Lieber State and his training? He was available, he's got a redication and he's trained good. He's trained a good players. Think there's to it. There's it's a really interesting point. Does it really interesting and all that and do that in the at the end of the day, I don't think there's so whole lot to here. Here's what I think. I think you guys were all great. Out of respect for Damian Lillard, they're not going to trade him to after the Olympics cracked. Yeah, that makes sense. The warriors haven't signed. They don't need to. The wars have not signed, or two first round picks, because if they sign them, you can't trade them for thirty. Yeah, I think what's going on is I think there's a three way deal brood, because you're a lot of smoke about Ben Simmons going to Golden State. I don't think Portland One's Golden State. I think Portland onto young assets. So what I think it's going to happen is you're going to see a three way deal with in the two next two weeks that's going to send Simmons to Golden State a bunch of assets, like you're talking wise men. There two first round picks that they just drink it this year. Wiseman wiggins are the one. Yeah, yeah, Wiseman WAM and really maxie and Damian loward come said, maybe Maxi. He might be in that deal. Going one of them, guible or Maxie. Gotta be in a time. So then that's Damian, though. That's why I think's going to happen and that's why I think Maury, like I know what we said earlier, like you know, Danny Green is one last pay day. But I think Danny Green does not come back here in a two year deal, unless or something, which I that that any green moment game. Ten million a year anywhere else. You don't think? No, no, I don't know. It sounds what you do. What's he do? Maybe de started to trade. What means this? Because we're they can hear him exactly that much money. Then Green's I getting ten million dollars a year anywhere else? All right, well, I guess I'm just smoking the de no, I I think it's I'd like the optimisms. I'll tell you. I don't say it that. I just don't understand, like why you bringing him? Why? Why and why it's gotten like why are you training his trainer and he's still training him now? Why do you bring him in? Maybe you see, would let don't look. Yeah, exactly, because maybe you bring them in for Maxi, because you see what he did with Lillard. I mean because Matt Right now, Max, he's your start. If been doesn't come back, Max as you're starting guard. Or is it a precursor to be like look, you check off all the boxes? Right? I think you guys would agree. Golden States not happening for Littar, the Lakers, which was another place. What does not happen now? The Nix isn't happened to the sixers. Say Morey, who's a smart dude, right, yeah, like he puts that shit up last night about how they've the best lineup. You know what, all right, maybe Lillard didn't want to come here now, but all but maybe I need to bring his trainer in and now I'm going to use this trainer to recruit him because he wants out of Portland. Why would you want to? That's some problem. He hasn't come out and said that. Yeah, but I think that's the drawback. If you look at those moves, he don't want to be there. Look who they signed. He he's said all the right things. If you're a Portland Fan, fan on, I don't book. These trainers are like they're like hired mercenaries. You'RE gonna pay, YOU'RE gonna that be true. You'RE gonna pay me to come in like the sixers looking at me. Go, man, we really like dames game. We think we can. Yeah, but he was a converted the stitch with them to Maxi Lee Max. That's what I think. Again, better can learn from it. You want me to say what I where? I guess I'm connecting the dots and I connected the dots before when everybody said Carson was coming back, when the eagles brought in Brian Johnson, who grew up, he's worked with hurts her soul life. So look, I'm okay. I just think they so then why are their owners talks with the Shaun Watson? So I think that's all my decid didn't even this shit on your whole string. There's your your point makes sense. It acts as it would be your trade scenario. Make sure that it works. But I think, I guess you guys are saying, but like it would be two things. Is Philly to get this thing is there. They're so much swirling around. It's hard to trade the map and Simmons hard and Damian Lillard. It's just it's hard to you know, you're basically throwing a dart at a map and seeing where it like. Well, I guess what I'm I guess what. I'm basing it on his head. And when I say that I don't mean you're doing a dark no, I mean people are throwing a dart at a map. I guess what. I'm basing it on his effected. I think Portland's trying to rebuild. Golden State has the assets to help them rebuild so they don't have to take on Simmons big contract. GOLDEN STATE ONE Simmons. So they're going to send those young assets to Portland. WE'RE gonna couple those young ass assets and we're going to get look this go and state once they've already turned down a deal. If you really want to turn out with a deal to I know, I know, yeah, but I mean, but if you really want thet you counter off for don't you? I mean, nate, what are you? Where do you think simmonstay like? Do you think he's here next year? I think he's here. I think he's a sex I don't think something to after so all those reports that came out today is at all just bullshit. I think it is I actually think. I...

...don't know much about doom. It's other. I think it's crap. You really think that him? It is gonna BE? Yeah, that's all say him in beater boys. Here's what no see. I don't yeah, they are. I don't agree with that. Yeah, that's dude. Look at your teammates. Call Bro Joel and it's been been and it's been the Ben and Joe Show for how many years? There boys like on and off the court, like how many times are we heard that miked up? We're like when with the cat fight last not the cat fight, like when he thought, is that Ben? Whenever, is like, you're my boy, I got your back. I know that's like a real act, like they're being. Is Very hurt that Joel threw him under the bus here after game seven. I do believe that, and I believe that Doc rivers throw him under the bus. Doc said all the right things, so after I agree with you, but I think been emotionally. He's a he's a pamper, he's got and he definite and this is how you'll know if it's true or not. Every time in bead the media calls out bullshit, he goes on twitter and he says that's not true. If and if Simmons is not answering his calls and that's not real, he will say something to not ob yeah, I don't think I'm he's two busy poy in tennis. You got doubles. He's a play Im pocketble. We got the guy that tweeted that stuff out. It's just like I got it. I don't give him those wats and stuff. I don't give it. So you guys think he's back. I think he's back. If you can't get damn, I think he's back because you're not going to get them out. Yeah, I say that is the problem for him. You're asking for too much around the League and they think this guy's sleep. They're not doing, they're not saying, but you don't think they're asking for as much as they say. You think I was less base in it all? Potential, I think we've all said it and I think we all know if he develops a jump shout, he's a top five player in the right that's how many years I've been saying that. And how many teams actually believe man is not here? You know I mean, no, no, it's like he couldn't need a new city in a new, fresh art? That's what I'm concerned about. is like he's and if it happens, it happens. So what? You had to move on. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like you can't live with the regress. Seems like they has a Couz all his losses. I agree, and they have a number one seed with him last year work, so it works. But I think the connections are making a logical he's hurt. Their logical. thennection start. Lad Yes, I think he's hurt mentally, fit mentally that they tool shots at them, but that's why he would have to la. He's out there on his own. Yeah, just doing listening. He gave everybody seeing what I got this sealed. This is the offseason. This is my time with you. Much dating. We've already seen the videos. It some chill in in the that Piss me off him that you no know. What pissed me off was his video the other night e posted of him working out. Shouted Jim. Yeah, it's like, come on, Dude, we've seen that a weird know. You know the reputation. Yeah, just just he also got to be. I mean the age of social media. I gotta put it out there. I had no problem with him in the pool with Tj like he also dude. It's everybody lax season, relax. I got no problem with that. Here's here's another thing where I'm price stretching, but I'm looking the things like this, your conspiracy thing. I am just sports competes. Listening tires is birthday was a couple weeks ago. Here we go like you're pulling out the birthday basket. He didn get a six Joel. He didn't answer nothing Joel and say nothing, but he had but he did end up saying happy birthday to what's his name, the guy from fanatics? I can't think it was, I guarantee Michael Ruben. But you think, guarantee that Joel send a text to Ben saying, you know, happy birthday. You believe they got this day off drum and plate when it hit right, guarantee like yeah, no, with a happy face in Haha. Whatever. I agree, Jim. I don't. I don't give that much thought about what was said. The reports from today. I think that they're headed towards a Russell Westbrook the rant. Do I blit do I think that it's going to be awkward if they were to bring him back. Absolutely with all the show rumors going around right now. Yeah, so would you build up as value to trade them, or do you build up his value to be like it's not worstcase scenario. If he does come back, dud's a great player. You agree with you, but saying he just needs to shoot whatever he comes back and shoots, you still move them then, though, if it's if he's shooting them now, because now, because now what we want them to do. Exactly right, that's what you want him to be. He might, he might force himself out like a harden if he comes back and sabotages, and I'll be pissed right, and I could see him maybe doing right. Move Them. If he comes back it's shooting and doing well, now we're saying these sabotage back. You also ask if he comes back shooting, do you move now? But if you still wants out, I guess you have to write. I'm tired of these guys not side. I'm sorry, it's stupid. All right, so you guys are all so sticking to your guns, where I'm saying he's not here and I think he I think he's here and hey, what do you think?...

Yeah, thanks, already said. Yeah, I think he's there. It's not worst case scenario if he is back. I'm looking at my watch. You know what time it is. Damn time, theme time. He also also got to keep in my contracts. He's getting paid a lot lower once out. You think it happens, then I if Lord comes out and says I want out, then that lowers a value and you go get him. And that's why beal isn't going to move, because he hasn't. He said he wants to be there and hes there. That's his team. Yes, that's his team. Feels there for a year. He's going to blow bels on the Boston with his boy tatum next now he's not. Feels there for grey. Bring tatum down to watch they I just stays. That's his team. Now feel feeling the wizards are at. They've come out and said we're building around you and he's ready to be a sorry, a few signs that deal in October to Max. Yeah, he already has a Max deal right with them. Yeah, yeah, now get a Super Max. We didn't even talk about the big other sixer signing. What Nia Yang's Mike Scott will pass on that one for the NBA draft. Yeah, who passed on that? So we're getting it. We're getting close to close that time here. I'm right. I'm saying Guy, end of August, Damian Lillard to sixer lay a week, Labor Day, weekend. Well, I I'm not against it. I know you're not. Yeah, I don't carry the way. Just I make up your mind. I'm I don't want to just start yelling off, but I'm tired of I'm tired of the players dictating, forcing the way you have ten. It's the NBA and I'm also tired and DJ, I don't mean any disrespect here age group, but not taking these I love telling us that we're too hard on the athletes here and stop billing them and stop ripping all them, like I saw a few tweets over the past week about some of the one on Regga were regular lost a friend and yeah, horrible, and Miss You's got all them failed as convention was that was on call for. You don't rip a Guide's training camp. I'm not going to rep any players. Are you can really shit about orny king right, but the fact that we were we're on been about shooting. It's been how many years now where this has been a kissal saw war, and we're not saying we hate the guy, we're saying be a better shooter. Yeah, and not even be a better sho know, shoot them balls, not even why? A better to shoot the damn ball. Why are you doing like? Three billing doesn't help. Doing works. This is one of the tweets. ASELF work. It hasn't proven to do anything. Booing, why are you booting each question? Shit. All it does is make them not want to be here and I keep coming to your office and boo you. Now you can't come to my office and boom me. Why not? You could talk to my boss, my colleague can talk to my brother. I can't talk to Jeffrey lorry. I don't have that access. So what can I do? I could boo you because you sucked at and you know why. Hopefully you hear that sitting up on your sweete exactly. You know why. You can boot too, because nobody's coming into your office and paying to go see you performed. Here. Here's the one. We're going into their profession and paying to watch them perform. But I feel like I feet a good product. As a fan base, I feel like we're starting to get soft, but I also feel you can't do these guys. Oh Shit, it doesn't it works. I also think is a fan base. One things that I'm tired of seeing this week, and I don't know how much you guys all agree with me, like you can't completely zero in on that loss on Ben Simmons, and they were talking about that now week, like Joe and be turn the ball over a fifteen times. I'm rivers deserves and just as much bunny. That's what I'm saying. Like to me like there's I don't have a pro team out and yeah, it's moves your team. I don't have a private ben gets moved. But I also think people need to realize it wasn't been. If you lose, been, even if it's Damian Lark, this team stores work to do in order to get where they want to go. Absolute that play looks really bad if you focus on just that play right, yeah, and not realize that if that play happened at a time of the game where it didn't matter because you were already up. That's true. You know who cared to Joel Mrs free throws at the end of the game. Right. He missed that lay up and he was one of at the end that he gave one of eight in the fourth quarter. A tea sucked it. Yeah, the fourth quarter game seven. Was the fourth quarter of game seven. It was just tea. We always talked about this team not having leadership. This is another thing. Do you think the series is different? Of Green Plas? Do you think they went to sw I don't think they any down. Is that much of an impact? Now, I'm a leadership from a long now standpoint. I don't know. Ya that type of role. You can. He was here for the years. Think he's like that. Twenty five point lead, like but you can. You can still Lee, even though you're not playing. You can still leave. Exactly. Yeah, you can see, you can still show by example. I mean he's through a team, hundred of us, two and in the team, a fan base on the yes and now now I'm gonna be like, and not to be derogatory, to teach gage, but old man yelling at a clown. Greens data green's the old guy on the court where all the young guys are going. All Right, thanks, thanks POPs. I get it. I should have done this in that position. Great that he's got a lot. Never respected. I stop. No, no, I think he has respect. But at the same team time, these young guys are...

...going with Danny. You're not on the court as much as we are, like, I hear you. I should be doing start right, they're not. I think if you're looking for the leader on the team, it's Joel. It's gotta be too. It's so well, so, Joe. Well, Joel's listening to Danny. The other guys are listening to Danny, but I don't you appreciate the veterans here. You appreciate that right? That's what I'm saying. Yes, and he's played with some like, but the other guys did. The younger guys are looking at him like all right, old man winter, I don't know. I hear you, old man winter, I hear you, but maybe I'm gonna play my game. I'm going to continue to play my guest gonna say that's if they trade for Damian Lillard and I'm beat still is around the perimeter constantly, that's really going to Piss me off, because you're obvious, always too doc I mean, I guess it's that but I also like, yeah, if you have hit Lillard, who can shoot a perimeter shooter, there's no reason why, I'mb needs to be around that perimeter when a should be in the pain. Till he got hurt, he was killing it down well right. It was only after he got hurt that he started really hanging outside. He Gat. That's another thing. But when he was down low he was killing it until we got her. If you don't think get hurt of Washington, you think that's a game changer? Yeah, yeah, I do, all right. We still got a month left in the summer. Figure out. I'm back to what happens with free agency. We're really close out with a couple WTO at WTF facts. I've been following the guy on twitter and just some stuff that just blows my mind. So just quick first impression, kids. I've heir something crazy. First a pression when I read these all right and them were closing it out. In two thousand and five the psychologist and an economist taught a group of monkeys the concept of money. It took an unexpected turn when the monkeys randomly began to engage in prostitution. What, look, where was this? A seriously, this is a fact. Wow, where, I don't know, somewhere, that's crazy. Somewhere, somewhere in the world. And here's another. This was perfect. Hundred year old. It was perfect to close out with this one. In ultra crepidarian is someone how confidently gives opinions on subjects that they know absolutely nothing about. That's what we do every tires. Are you read that over again, Smitty? For the record, I have no sympathy for those people. NA't a hundred year old. I don't care. That's crazy. CARE. I've no sympathy either. I'm saying what they did. You get no grace period with that. No, if you're a Hun, you in twenty years old, you still try out on the yeah, we'll say that. I'm going to say that over the heavy dark hour. Crept, crept, crepit. What how do you spell say saying people what you said? That threw me off there. And Ultra crepit, crepit pindarian. It's someone who confidently gives opinions on subjects that they know absolutely nothing about. What we do every podcast. Pretty much. We know stuff. We'd like to think that we know stuff. Are they dirt? Is Ultra crepit penarian. I'm going to put that on my linkedin bio. Yeah, school, that's gonna be so professional people. Body, what's this? I'm going to say I'm a professional bullshitter. That's a fancy word. So if there's lessons learning tonight, it's that Harper, maybe, maybe, MVP Shoan Watson's not coming here. No, probably not, probably not. Ben Simmons will stay. No, yes, maybe, and that if you take the time to teach monkeys the concept of money, prostitution will come out. It is inevitable everything. And he's just a matution. It's nature. Here's a fact or fiction. Fact or fiction. This time next week when we do the show, Phil these own first place backed. They're hot, ride the hothand that's I'll go fact. Mats are choking. I'll go fact. Phillies take two out of three. Given then they got the dodgers by the time we come back. Yeah, that's all right, that's where. That's fine. I'm thinking of that. Dodgers. You go on. No, no, you same. Fiction, or not at first, but the t time we meet next Thursday, they got the medal. Hogo. Fact. Yeah,...

...fact. I'll go fact to because even though we have to play the dodgers. You figure the win one out there. Maybe. Who knows what the mets are going to do? I don't know who the met schedules Brewal. They got they got the date. And Paul Spencer just said Dallas Will Win the east. Paul spencers. Hmm, okay, you got a bottle of pops next to you there, Paul Spencer. All right, so next week I won't be here. I'll be I'll be on vacation. The case join the beach that just now. I just took a couple days. Wait, wait, wait, wait, well, this time out Bob Harton, that just said fact after Paul Spencer and said and Dallas will win the east. Are you RAPP I'll be on the rest. Fact about referencing the Phillies, or to Killis phillies. I think you say fact that I'll be on vacation. Tied a mets got La and first go at the Philly. That's what I thought. I knew their next fourteen days were brutal. I believe they're out there too. All right, so we're lined up some guests. We got some cool guests. Yeah, coming up as a season come, as as the football season comes, closer. We're going to bring some more guests in, but I think you had anything else to say. Sorry, I just totally blind there. Now do you want to the name dropper? Just tauld want a name drop to ease it at that Hee's. You gotta bring the people back. Leave us with a gotta tease them a deep, great thought. Deep Franks, Jack Has Jack Hati remembered on Saturday to life. Who Jack? Did you want to let us know how you become a member of deep freak? Was that the thoughts with Jack? Had Thoughts with Jack? Thoughts? How do they do? We get in deep thoughts that he become a John. You got to get a shirt. We make them, please, please, not that we will be at all he needs we get here and then for the camera. Yes, thank you. I forgot to thank our friends, right monkey's uncle. They had us out there a couple weeks ago. He first go balls of that saying it. That was fun. Yeah, they will be carrying our gears soon as we get it all wined up, but until then, thanks for hanging out with US tonight. We will see you next week. B xsent to each other's go phils. Yeah, that saw us. Ah, think just the way turn it beat up.

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