Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode 38 · 3 years ago

Episode 47 ‘Season of hope or on the brink ?’

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Hey, Philly fans, do youremember when we threw snowballs at Santa Claus? Maybe you don't remember it like youwere there, or maybe we're a little young, but the national mediacertainly won't let us free and forget it. It's an easy shot to take.It. A starving fan base will guess what the hungry dogs finally gota Blait to eat. This podcast is here to fight against the cartoon characterof the rude, ignorant Philly Fan. This is a passionate fan base withknowledge to make your head spin, and this podcast is going to bring youthe perspective of different generations of Eagle season ticket holders and fans when it comesto eagles, football, Philly sports and whatever else is on our minds.Remember, there's always two sides to every story. Did people ever stop andthink maybe she, just maybe, Santa Bood first? Thanks for listening in, and don't forget, no one likes us. We don't camp. GoodMorning Football fans, here listening to another episode of the Santa Boot First.Live Santa boot first podcast coming to you live from the Wi fi radio studios, powered by Wafar Sports. This is your co host, Jim Marcus inthe room with me this beautiful rainy Saturday morning. The magnificent Martin's. Alotit we've gone through introducing to you, you guys, as a well tailorlikes. Yes, Taylor likes the magnificent Martin's. And there's like a TVshow or something. It's need the cheap s theme song. There you go. A little, yeah, a little lone wolf for mcguiverer music. Meg, it's matching mustaches and not that. No, no, I think thatwould be amazing. That's right, Jo, quiet you. I don't think.I don't think DJ can. I don't think I could grow baby faceit. I don't think I could go out. Didn't you want? Youhad a mustache back in the Dato, didn't you do? I had togo tea back in the day. I could see the cat a full beard. Back in the day, I could see that. But I'm gonna havepictured and more like a Tom Selik mustand now. No, no, no, no, the bars. Maybe now I would go with a food manchew. Maybe, yeah, crazy, but what's wrong with a food manshow? You have a problem with the mustache, but food man chew isfine. Yeah, and now I like the Food Man Chew Love. Shouldgo with the Dario Sarich you know, shave in the middle of it.Outside about you miss some how about the Joe Buck drop? Now that weknow, what do you think about? Joe Bucks attempted a beard tailer.It's very yeah, it's very light. It's like I just like picked upthe hair from my beer Y, trim it Thruin Egy face and whatever.Six stays. Yeah, that's like the suddeny crawlsby mustache whenever some Millar curlacross his lip. Well, that's what. If you don't have the beard game, you don't like I can't grow a beard right. So after twodays my wife's like, you look like a Predator, so don't grow anything. So I just go clean shape and you guys can grow up a healthybeard. It looks good. I can't do it, so you just gottagotta work what you got. That makes sense. That makes sense, itdoes. And then voice you here joining us here in studio. We missedthem. Avalon, Brian, Brian Flannery. What's up, guys? Happy tobe here. It's good to happy. It's been a while. We've missedbeen a while. New Job, you know, a lot of stuffrunning around. Uh Huh. So you're here in the new digs. NewDigs. They're Nice. It's amazing. Yep, the toilet's not link inhere. The same smelling and and it's warning. There's not a phone booth. Bathrooms on a phone booth. The guys aren't outside with right but blunts. and Mr if you just you just miss them, they're still out there. And the phone booth isn't in the studio. That's true. That istrue. got a bathroom that's actually outside the studio and the neighbors are probablya little friendlier. Hey, yeah, whatever, ship. I've never heardof that place. It doesn't open to after seven, okay, but allegedly. Let's allectually. Yeah, that's a sponsorship opportunity. Father Kovala might notbe happy about it, but you know, we could bring the ladies of Champagneover and that the ladies of Champagne here. That here, that owner. And Yeah, and we haven't figured out the DRV in the parking lotyet. We haven't figured out what's going on there, that there's an RVRV parked in a park a lot next to yeah, lady Harvy's last policespecialized club in bar. Yes, here you go. That's the private clubsafter around. Yeah, that's the VIP pre's a mobile champagne route. It'sthe Uber of champagne rooms. They drive you around, will drive you home. He go. I don't show to speak. Yeah, I don't knowif you want the ladies driving you home. I know you think Uber Sergees expensive. You gotta see what happened there, Jesus. All right, do weget a little sidetrack and we talk about football, Eagles podcast? Right, yeah, I believe so, ill for now, flame and show upand then we go to, I know, hell in a hand bassent real fast. All right, we did. We try to get Father Camari inhere tonight to give last rights, but he bat on this. Yeah,yeah, I wonder why. Yes, now I think. I don't thinkhe knew frotten was coming. I think. I don't think anything that with.I just feel bad. Wh when he first said he wanted to meetme, he was excited that he met me that now he's trying to erasethe story of my life. Right,...

...all right, let's get into thedebacle that was the cowboys Gamer. The baccles are good choice of word.Start it off. Like I said, our show started off a shit,shit show with the fumble that wasn't a fumble. No, no, wait, it was fun. It was ruled a fumble. They just couldn't tellout of the five eagles players that were on top of them all, whichone of them recovered it. So they had to give it back to thecowboys. I guess it's don't work. And how do you miss that atright fumble from the get go? How did they not call it a fumbleto start? Why do we have to go to replay in a challenge toeven establish that it was a fumble? But, but why can't they getit right? Like I'm a big NBA Fan and I get annoyed with replayafter replay after replay. But the NBA does something right. They always makesure they get the call right. Hmmm, and the NFL seems to have somekind of WWF mentality where you see what happened last week that there's noexplaining that. And the NBA makes the call in house right correct doesn't goanywhere other than it. They still referees. They have a review center, butyeah, it's always a referee. The referees on the sideline at thescores table, looking at the computer screen and making the call from there.But the Tailor's point, they're talking to someone in Secaucus. That's okay,got it. Hey, this is what we see. Can you confirm it? That's kind of their process. I I don't like going up to NewYork or, you know, D Nhl. They do the same thing with Toronto. I don't know why. The technology is there to make the callin house. Why do you have to go to, you know, acity that's several hundred miles away to make a call? Because the fixes in. There's no other act. I don't want to be the conspiracy. Yeah, I agree. And why did we lose that? We lose the channel, we lost the challenge and we lost the time out. We live rightbecause we had you lost. We challenged, but we won the challenge, Ithink because all challenge the fumble. Doug challenged. It was a fullright, but we still lost the time out. We won the challenge.You're right, the Chi know. So technically we won the challenge because thechallenged as a fumble. Soday's they say, yeah, it's a fumble, butthen we continue. We lost the time out and a challenge. I'mwith friend. It's it's it's the cowboys. Yeah, they want to see theholboys back. Yeah, no, they won't say that was the realkey. My Dad's always one of these guys. At all are the restaurantto get us? They just want the cowboys to win. On What YourDad, but there is. I saw something on social media earlier and weakthat there four weeks in a round the cowboys head. Questionable calls. Yeah, by the referees go their way. Were no call, God, andoffensive pass interference was worse than the funnel in my mind. Actually, actually, I disagree with you, and here's why. Bullshit. It was bullshit, but God he at least it's a bang, Bang play and it's it'sa quick decision. Where's the fumble? They review it and it's clear.Okay, from that perspective, well, it's kind of like corn of fouldand best, but once you call it, it's it is done. It iswhat it is. It was a bad call, but I don't thinkit was as egregious my beef with the God. Our call was. Itwas the call the offensive, quote unquote, offensive pass interference happened before the fiveyard mark. Off The line of scrimmage, right, if you're lessinside the five yard line. So now is the defender the only one allowedto make contact inside five yards? Don't no, they missed. Not One, but two had helmet the helmet contacts on Dallas got her and if youlook at the replay, his helmet actually comes up. Yes, and that'swhy he lost his helmet in the end zone when he went dove into theend zone. And why is the referee that's thirty, forty yards back,judge to call it? Yes, that's making the call. And then notthe referee that's right there. And and for a past and Affairans. Doesn'tthe ball have to be in the air? Yes, that ball thrown. Yetcorrect, the ball was not thrown it. In that case it wouldbe a hold, yeah, hold, never. Yeah. So all thosethings. It just blew my mind on that, on that call. WhenI saw that flag coming flying through the middle of the screen, I waslike do it. Yeah, no, no, no, I thought allI cool. They got they see that helmet, the helmet, because itwas thrown on the hit. Yeah, it makes it appeared. It appearedwhen he got hit and then he was like, Matt, sorry, folcusesoff. It's a bits of what? What? What are you doing?And how can you make that call from forty yards away? I love that. We were we'd had we were together for the game. They had atailgate, say Dansoms, so we did a little facebook live hit before thegame. But we're in the gym of the school and all these people watchingthis game and you could look around and everybody wanted to just start drop aF bomb. Yeah, God, yeah, but there were, there were children, but he kind of like bit their tongue. The pastors right theresitting in the front watching the Gamer, like guy, children involved. All, it's your faults, andsome too, is the patron saying a bad call, right, I mean it's your nice...

...fault. that. That was God, that was so brute. Those those calls were just so brutal. Andthen there was a on the forget what play it was, but there wasa blatant hole. The Guy Tackled our defensive lineman and it was not called. And I forget what the call what the result was the play, brandingGraham, it was I think it was the third quarter. Yeah, itwas after that, after half time. Yeah, I mean at that theoffensive lineman literally pulled him down. Yep, they did get them next to them. Call it. They called it later, but yeah, you're andand then the makeup call against Alice with the with the roughing the passer.It was the Benett call where it where he just pulls them that yet getlight, pulls him down on top of them and they call an offense oror roughing the passer, like they did against Bennett, I think in theMinnesota game. I forget, but yeah, I know it's a makeup call,but that was a bullshit makeup call. They that was so stupid, thatcall. And I ATE DALLAS. Well, there's there's a safe there'sfired up. She's so what's there say? There's a saving grace here. Andyour son is the same age as my son and they had it tooeasy. Last year they win the Super Bowl. First Year, my soncalling on. Now my son's on the couch screaming at them like I am. So he's officially one of us. And the building, the causes exactlybuilding. All right, I like that. I like that. I asked him. So we got the Texans team stiff. I said, do youstill want to go? But Carson is not going to be playing. He'sstill in goes the was to go. So we'll head down the Texans game, but we're going to tease what's going to happen now. Well, I'lllet you'll get that. We'll get that. I don't want to blame the wholegame thing. The rest much of that'd like to. I feel likeit's a game we should have won, but bad play calling again my doug. Yeah, Doug needs to I feel like every week I said he needsto figure out. He hasn't done it. I think the one point it comesto mind that we kept talking about was that option where you're running theoption to the short side of the field, and neither Carson kept it, neitherCarson or I don't know if it was Adams or if it was sprawlsat that point, but neither of when I got what I got the firstdown. There's the third and four, I think, and he does theoption to the short side of the field. It's he has not impressed me theseason with his play calling. Dj and I were talking about a biton the ride over and I think we've said it here before and other peopleare sitting to it. I think Frank Reik's really hurting them losing him.D Filippo, he saw he got K in to Minnesota. People were sayingbringing him back. Doesn't sound like duck, doesn't sound like Doug wants hi backnow and I don't know that I want them back either. I don'tknow that he was as much of an influence on the offense is as Reikewas. HMM. Well, I mean in light of what came out thisweek with Carson with the fractured back, and at first I thought that wasa cover and now it sounds like it's legitimate. Yeah, you know,it sounds like he's been limited since we gate. So is it all dougsplay calling or is it the limit abilities, of the limited limitations of the quarterback, which weren't limited before? And I want to know with that story, how much and when Carson knew, because it seems like he's been off. Yeah, yeah, he looked healthy to beginning the season. No,I've been questioning his decision making a season, holding the ball too long, notthrowing the ball away, but then you did see something seem to justhell off a little bit mid season there and he taught the touch. Seemsoff. The over the middle throws seem off, like the the mobile throwsthat he can usually make seam off. So any original reports were saying thatthe team knew but didn't tell him. Then I read something this morning thatknow they had been doing the scans since sweet seven or eight. To say, he goes at the seventy six. That's where I was. That's allgot with this. Whose medical staff is better? It's Bobby Clark it Ericlyjots is still on that plane now. He's still in the TUB. Isn'theasy? Isn't even a dumb that Joddy Leclaire saving his life in the tube? Yeah, but yeah, so if Carson didn't know about it until thisweek, and you're a guy that's on the verge of signing your biggest contract, if you know that the team knew about this at a coaching staff knewabout this, does that kind of bias you're thinking of whether you want toresign here. Do you think he he loses trust? I don't think so. Who are all to talking about that now? Yeah, I don't thinkhe's lost trust. They let what was it, three medical staff people goafter the Super Bowl. I've heard this week that I did not hear before, and DJ was talking earlier in the week, that the stay should befired just, you know, because of how this whole thing is worked out. If it's true that they were hid, I don't I don't know. Doyou guys believe like I know we want to believe in conspiracies. Somethingdoesn't add up regardless. Something doesn't add up. Its sounds like maybe someincompetence. But like, backs are tricky things, right, like people geta back injurid's hard to diagnosis. A lot of soft tissue there, there'sbone, there's cartilage. I can't believe for the life of me that theyknew he was hurt and they they just ignored it or didn't or covered itup. There's just there's no gain there...

...for them to do that right,especially he's playing poorly. They're not going to risk the franchise quarterback if it'sa you know, I know Manuatcho was out making noises. We can seeother scrubs and listen their NFL players. I don't mean that, I don'tmean to minimize them, but you know, the backup, backup, back upto the Barel Elf, all right, the backup to the backup has aslightly strained MCL and they tell him to go out there and he tearsit. All right, who gives a crap? You're not going to dothat with car Sarsons, know. So after the Super Bowl the eagles headathletic trainer and two other head team physician and team health in turn, leftafter the Super Bowl. So that's three left or fired. Now let gostep down. Okay, I said. So you got the ring and theywere out. Yeah, I guess. Is that like Bud kilmore or orderingthe trainer to give them the shot? All right, I jump. I. I. my feelings on Carson through the season was, I thought,I commend him for making all that effort to come back, but considering thetype of injuries that he suffered, I think he needed to take a littlemore time and if I were the eagles, I would have waited till we hadtwo losses before I put him back in there. When he came backto I think our record was two in one when he came back, orone in one. One. He gave back one, one, three.We we three, so we were one and one. I would have waitedtill we had two losses before I would have brought him back because he neededas much time as possible to because those they're once upon a time, eitherone of those injuries was the end of your career because the technology and thethe technique, which just surgery technique could just wasn't available to fix those typesof injuries. Either one of them was your was a career under he hadboth of them right. So he was for you know, to be playingat the time where he's playing, that they were able to do the surgeriesto correct the injuries to get him back. But I think he came back.I, like I said, I commend him for doing everything he did. I think he was one of the few guys in that locker room thathad the mentality that we need to you know, we can't take any timeoff. We got to get back and get back to our routine last yearand what we did last year and but just kind of settle it was growling. It's because everybody knows the teams that actually show up in the playoffs playthe second half of the season way better than the first. Yes, yeah, so I agree. That's a silly way of looking at it. What'sa silly way of looking at it? Like, Oh, wait, wehave to rush this guy back, like, yeah, you know, yeah,yeah, and it, yeah, it's that the Games don't matter quiteyet. Right, right. And I would have waited to bring Carson back, like I said, until we had at least two losses, depended onhow we looked through those games. Even I don't even know if I gotwo losses, though, because I'd rather have them set a deadline. Right. They always say it's a year injury and he pushed it back nine months. Why not wait that year or whatever's just come up with a predeterminate becausethen if you if you wait till the guns against his head, then he'sgoing to come back and press anyway. Right. So I become of ifyou lose two games, they start off one and two. All you gotto come back then. I don't know. You're running the same thing now.I think a lot of it was on cars and they're just wanting tocome back and play just because he's such a competitive drugger. I am anI don't needs to take control there though, right, but I think the teamlooked at him and said he's healthy, he's healthy enough to go out there, but he wants to play. Let's get him out there and playlike you don't. You don't sit your franchise quarter back if you think he'sa hundred percent healthy and expectation that he still needs, I still think,this whole year to be completely back. I know, isn't that shortsighted?Don't we remember what happened to the franchise quarterback ninety miles down the road?Right, that brought back R G three. Exactly. You're exactly wrong. Idon't put that on me, I know, but that only that's whathappens. Look at Andrew Lock. Yeah, right back really. Yeah, thenyou ended up missing what almost two years? HMM, and he's stillnot back towards is like first year that he's actually playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I that's a very good analogy with the RG three, becauseI kind of was thinking of that same since nare scenario playing out with usand I didn't want to see because he's never recovered from that. Never Ithink that's more the way that he plays too. Yeah, yeah, reallyshut him down and and that's part of the reason why I haven't gotten allover Carson. I mean I see him play. I know he's not thesame player as he was last year. I see that. But the reasonwhy I'm not all over him is because of his knee injury. And nowis, it turns out, this back injury which we didn't know about andapparently it's started back in October, I think it was. Yeah, weekseven or eight. Yeah. So, I mean, but go back andlook weeks three through six heat and we...

...were all saying, he looks likehe's bad. Yeah, it doesn't look like he's been other than just notuntil the first is on him. The first giants game, is when Ifelt maybe he is, know that he's back. He it's Carson, buthe's regressed a little since then. It's just I feel like it's just thePhilly look of we finally get this guy and new we think is, youknow, the savior, and falls right out from under us. I don'twant to be kept it up to this and but we just want the superbadly. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. It's not that bad. Listen, let's and draw the analogy. Doing bead right and bead struggled.We said you gotta be wait, you got to be patient, let'sbe smart, and now you see what you're dealing with. When with himbead, you gotta Give Carson. He's young. You got to give himtime. What's he twenty four, entering his third year next year. Imean, we're all right. A quarterback. We've other conserved. Okay, quarterI'm willing to right off the year, so to speak. I didn't expectit. I I had them back in the Super Bowl to beginning ofseason, because we returned twenty out of twenty two starters. So I thoughtwe were in the mix when it come playoff time, going far in theplayoffs. I didn't expect the season to play out the way it did.That said, I'm okay with you know. All Right, fine, it's wateronto the bridge. There's nothing we can do about it. Now.Let's move on to next year. Next year we come back, things betterbe back in order. And you know what's he called? The new normal? Right, he calls it. I think we all had green colored goggleson to write. If you were a short hit in the spring, itwould have been Doug Peterson, Martin. Yeah, right, I mean,let's be honest. So do we have a shot at anything the season?What are you? Are you saying? Seasons over, doing a shot ofPOPs? Do it. Yeah, and we do there. POPs is hereand it's to do with us. Yeah, perfect, Perry, you champaign roomguys, shame less plug. Yeah, anybody wants to me is for headto crick water after words. Anybody wants to stop by Crick Water,I buy a pop. Papa pops if the papa POPs. WHAT IS BRINKWATER BAR? Is it crick what is it crick water? Have you good? Have you Philly high this? Or's a creek? will now it's not. It's KIRKLAE. I thinked it a guy behind the class. I seeI say creek. I grew up in Rocksboro. So it's a Hicking Creek. But yeah, if you know my white it's a creek and I'm like, it's a creek. Yep, but I'm just, I'm just. Inot drink water, right, you drink water? You don't drink water.No, my drink water. They're in Bucks County now. They're now.Now. No, no, Alora is the same thing. When we saidit. It's there. They're judy out of boys that own the bar.Okay, so it's Krick water. Okay, so water spelled the way it soundnice and corect. Can we get us out shot of section eight thereover there. Depends on if Adams, they're not here to Lord Adam crossesthe ball across the ALLEGATA. Go home. I don't think. What was thatplace? We won't get the plug as well it was. That isa good that's great food too. Donna's is a good bar. Please comeon this game. Boy, he's high man. I don't know where Iwas. I may raise it over there, I don't know, but I'm notgonna say that, because he was drinking budweiser last week. And what'swrong with that? Moving on. Yeah, you put it. You're an all. Take in there to impre to D and I also want to rideaway. Here's an interesting question. You for you if fulls didn't get hurtlast or falls, if wins didn't get hold hurt last week last season,and folds in there. Let me restart over. Let me start over andanyone happens got a pope. You need some problem. If Carson didn't gethurt last season, do they still win the Super Bowl with him as quarterback? That that is a the hot button question lately. What are we doing? HONEST ANSWER? Yeah, Noo. No, nick folds went on theI'm not saying he's a better quarterback. I'm not going to debate that he'sthe best quarterback and franchise history, but he went on the role of RollsMs Super Bowl before and look at the defense. Didn't stop anybody. TomBrady had an epic super fousand yards. The only reason we want just becausewe had the ball last. Yeah, Nick Four had a better super bowl. Yeah, I mean who who beats Tom Brady when Tom Brady throws forover five hundred yards and however many touchdowns he through for a club of what? Nobody beats a Lub of one. Yeah, it's nick faults, NickFalls. Right, man, my my answer to that question is I don'tknow. Yeah, that's kind of where I was at. Yeah, Imean we both agree with me. You know, we want to say yes, obviously saw. Yeah, you want to say yes, but you don'tknow, Steve, because whence is not putting up better numbers, he's probablyputting up similar numbers, or maybe a little less, then folds did inthe year in the playoff. rount at all. Right, right, yeah, be He'd be hard pressed to beat those not. Yeah, I meanit well, put the dynamic of the...

...offense changes to write like exact morethat ARP with Nick Foles, where it's quick and get rid of, whereaswhence it's more, you know, mobility and that sort of thing. It'sjust a different game. So do you think my point was? Do youthink the defense is they didn't. There wasn't enough tape and folds, butthey also probably thinking this guy's not going to be this. Let's focus onsomething else, let's stop there running game that. Maybe they had that carddownstally. Yeah, there, yea, and bellot checking said that to youwhen he didn't play whoever it was he didn't. I forget who he got. His mother, Malcolm Butler, still bad and he's a he was astarter. Correct. Yeah, that he didn't play him full one play.Hold on, that's fellatshit. No, bellot check said we don't think nickfoles is going to beat us, and well to show it. Y.Yeah, when did he say that? Because he sat mark. Now thatvery ain't that was it. Was it discipline thing with Butler is Miss Goud. Okay, and when it comes crunch time and you're behind, are youstill going to sit your starter? Yeah, because your bellot. Do you wantanother rate? You are trying to shove it up everybody's ass. Heis more pliable in policy than bellot check. He's the most stubborn football coach everand he's got the most rings, but he's not going to backtrack onthat. I think they just missplayed it. I don't think it was because offolds, and he's going to use that as an excuse. But theyhad plenty of tape. Yeah, but based on falses track record, whatdid he show you other than that one season of twenty seven and two thathe could play like that? But I just said, though, what hedid the Vikings game and even what he did to a long set in thehe's he lit the Viking. Yeah, he did a great defense. Yeah, he did. I mean if that was if I'm the head coach,I'm watching that, you have two weeks before the super bowl going yeah,wow, I we got a prep for this guy and I wouldn't go inthere taking that lightly. That's true, you know, that's that's true.Jelt hitting two horn runs in the game and the next time you know,you think he's Bay a bruth. I'm full of analogies this morning, likeI'm in full sale guy. I think. I think belchick would have. Wouldrather won the game and stuck the Malcolm Butler thing in your face andsaid see how much genius I am I getting, yeah, out my topclinner. Right, that's true. So that's the kind of guy he is. Yes, so, so, then nicky folds. Here he is.He's going to be playing for the well, we'll see if you should be probablyin the next three games. La. Their past defense is probably they're likemiddle of the pack. I keep hearing that they're very susceptible to theRPO, which is nick's bread and butter. Any chance they wouldn't this game outin La. I mean any given Sunday is always a chance that.What's your percentage? I don't like that answer. I mean that's not high, but a long way of saying no. Yeah, I mean I want tosay there's a chance, but I just I don't. I don't thinkso. La's offense, our defense, is not stopping them. No,I don't think they forgot last year either. That's true. That yet that that'smy whole thing. They got a big, huge revenge chip on theirshoulder and they could use the wind. Yeah, yes, they got tokeep pace with the saints and also they're averaging thirty something points at home.Are Back Defensive, backfield is non existent. And Yeah, I just you know, I don't say it. I put our chances at winning at aboutten percent. Trying to see who they played next week. If this isany type of trap game where they overlook this, like everybody overlook Nick Foles. Well, look with the Bear Baltimore. But no, I'm sorry, that'sthe charters bell the other LA teams. They're at Arizona. So now theyno worries for next week or worries for next week. Look with thebears. Did them last week? Yeah, they did them last week. Yetso they're going to come out and girl, he's going to get fortyfive touches with three hundred yards and Gospel to throw at seventy five times forseven hundred ukuarts. Jesus right is that? We're saying? It's just a badand simulators. Now that's percentage or two. It might be off.Okay, put that down. I'll put money on that. I look upwith the props with my bookie and see what I can get, what kindof money I can get on that. But yeah, I agree. TheyChicago made them look silly or made them look definitely look beatable. Yeah,showed teams all right, this is how you play defense against them. SoI think they're looking to come out and kick somebody's excess. We get inChicago's say we follow what Chicago's defense is really good. Yeah, they aresolid, everybody else and it was really cold. They want to show they'restill kings of the NFC. So unfortunate rams. For us, we haveto be hitting you over yet be and they got to keep pace. Soit's do we want Nikki folds to have a good game? Do we wanthim to finish out this season? Do we want to see Nate Sudfeld?I you didn't know. I'm worried. Huh. They're going to win tomorrow. Is always want in the bottom ractor.

They're going to win tomorrow. There'she's always one in the bunch. Why dead? Yeah, this reasonsex as a OS. I think that RPO throws the rams off. Ithink they learned something from what the bears did. I don't think the ramswere as good as we thought they were and I think this is kind ofthe eagles last stand. I think they go out to La Tomorrow. Theywin the game. I agree. I'm dead serious. I don't. Idon't think the rams of the team and everybody thought they were in begetting theseason dope. We've shown some holes, but I stick by there. They'regoing to be looking to kick somebody's ans this week just to show that theywant us to think they are that team for the season. Let's see whathappens in the earlier games. Let's see what happens in the Vikings game.See if the eagles have something to play for. They're going to be awareof that. They're going to be scoreboard watching. Yeah, so I thinkthe Eagles win the game. Mathmatically, we still have a shot at theplayoffs. Right. You need to stop the Vikings is to lose two games. I think it's two panthers to lose two games. They're doing all thesextra math. That's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, that's two other teams thatneed to lose a game. I can't remember who they add. That'sa lot of it. The playoff to get the wild card. Well,the Vikings haven't looked all that good. No, they're not re Shul.They're not good. The same us and the Panthers sputtered the panthers like therewere and they have to play New Orleans this week. Rex. Yeah,so those are two teams I think we could take. I can't remember whothe other two teams were that needed a loss. And don't be the giants. I don't think you need I don't think it's just yeah, I thinkit's I think it's just likings and panthers. Yeah, okay, because it's likea three week like it's those three teams fighting for the seconds, right, because the seahaw problem, as they have it, the Vikings have atie. So, yeah, that's we're you a little bit of help.You can't finish tied with the Viking. They have because they have the timebreaker. Right then, that's all. But I have a killer. That'sthe killer. The Vikings in the panthers have the tie breaker against us,but they have a tie. Also, the Vikings have a ten. Yeah, yeah, excuse it a little bit. Yeah, it does. And thatthat's all, assuming we would out night. So this, this isthis is a tough game. Texans coming here. They still have something welike tomorrow. You're not alone. Ryan Anderson here in facebook live stream.He's got the Eagles win. One hundred and seventeen. Joshuay, one hundredand twenty seven. Yeah, sorry, I'm my glasses one. All right, it's not extre got your car, not excuse bright as this. Greatjobs on so baby, because Kenny are your green guy less. All right, so you're giving them a win. What do you what are your thoughtson playoffs? That's let's go one. We can hid go while. Weget a time, but they're going to win to borrow. Okay, it'sChristmas. You gotta believe. Did you see the bit? They've got theSt Nick Billboard up already? I believe ready Nick. We believe in satnick. We said it last season got us there. I'm worried, though. They were thinking this offseason. I'm sure we're doing the alley's mind anyway, that he can get we can trade nick for something. He's an assetthat we can use. Maybe get a fourth round or third round her.I think there's probably little high but if he comes out he stinks, it'sdoes it really matter? I mean I don't think so. That Third FourthRound Pick it nice to have, but you've got bigger prop you've got biggerfish to to FRY. Yeah, than that. I mean you've got toworry about an offensive line that you've got a revamp a little bit. You'vegot a second to her. You've got to address a secondary. You needa secondary. Yet not a revample secondary. You need to say you need anotherrunning back. Sidney Jones is yeah, we overhive did it. Disciplined toomuch. At least hurt if he's in her can't stand a field,but even when he plays the well, the whole NFL though, the secondaryplayer. They can't play football anymore. That's a good point. You know, you can't touch anybody. It's crazy. I mean point, unless you havea stall on your helmet, I guess. But you know, BrianDawkins, Troy Vincent, all those guys, Bobby Taylor, they wouldn't they wouldbe average guys today. We love rules. You see the Thursday nightgame? Yeah, yeah, that's the greatest example of it, I think. So far it's crazy. It's crazy, I mean it's I don't know,it's frustrating. The ruining the game. I agree. It's getting hard towatch all these flies, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, it'sit's certainly not the game that I grew up watching and it's not even thegame. Probably DJ grow up watching. Well, I mean they weren't facemask for some time now. The exact yeah, they're not wearing that's allright, I guess I said it. Want to tea for you did.It's been a while, but it's it's it's like when baseball was juice inthe balls, because that got everybody excited. Everybody loves to scores. You meanI faseball was exciting, right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,that's nobody wants to see at nine six football team now, yeah, notexciting. We want to see less. You like defense, fifty three tofifty one games that you want to see? The chart, the RAM's chiefs team, money, Nika. Yeah, and now with fantasy, everybody wantsto play a story. So over unders of runners. It's world's changeing.Football is changing. Yes, Goddamn millennial,...

...screw out. Somebody. A millennial, very thin, soft. I don't know where's the where's the cutoff for the millennial to why don't two thousand? Yes, I don't knowabout eighty, eighty five to two thousand. It's all just made up generations.It really is let's be honest. Hmm Okay, all right, it'ssocially except for the greatest generation. You give them their respect. But whenwhen men roll met? Where when men were man that sort of thing.Yeah, I wonder. Rais are called baby boomers for a reason. Yeah, because when the Jener is, your genet, greatest generation, came back, it should have been baby cooper's really coops hoopsters right, and look sloopsoops, mistaken generation. Yeah, we're gonna get somewhere angry. Where wherewe going after that? I don't know. I don't know. All right.So I think we're talking playoffs. Hopes, Flans has, take itone game at a time. I'm looking at you. Bullies are yeah,I I agree. I'd thank you. Got To take a long game ata time. You have to take I get it. But are you willingto there a load it on the table and put your prediction out there?You think they make it the playoffs? I don't think so. I thinkwith the remaining scheduled tomorrow, that offense against our defense is not ideal.And then next week you have the Texans. WHO's covering Deandre Hopkins? Nobody.So, Malcolm HMM, which is an I don't yeah, I don'tthink. I don't think. I would like that match up Beire so Idon't think they I don't think they can pull it off. I don't see. No, they're not going to make the playoffs the way they did.This team starts off games, you know, I start off old, start ordon't start. Yeah, that's what kills us against the cowboys and inplayful three quarters. Absolutely killed us against the cowboys. And they they youcan't win ball games when you, you know, don't start a game untilthe third quarter. It's just not going to happen, not in the NFLanyway. You might be able to get away with it somewhere else, butnot in the NFL. And it's just it's mindboggling to consider where we camefrom last year to where we have arrived this year, the downfall that hashappened, that has occurred over the first fourteen weeks. It's it's staggering andit's disappointing and it's irritating, annoying, all those things. I think it'sdisappointing. But I we talked about what a success would be for the seasonand I think the main thing for which it was was a healthy car.Yep, so we had that for a little bit. Yeah, and nowwe don't. So so I guess you playoff run would a bit nice.Yeah, we all know the whole Super Bowl we repeat things very hard todo, even though we predicted the Eagles in Super Bowl. But yeah,I was I said in opening the show, I want to Father Cavarian here togive this team last right. So I don't well, he's got ontwo more chances at this week. We know. Sorry, I don't wantto be a downer, but I know. But we see how that works outright. I mean I'm a recovering Catholic and we see how many peopleget given the last right. It's and then they get another twenty years.So maybe that wouldn't be such a good idea. Okay, you know,now just for the season on, not for Carson's career. I know he'sseasons of life support, but it's not dead yet. Guys, you havelittle faith. It's the Christmas season. Come on, Hey, this guy'spositive. I don't do. Where do you come from? Coming sales guys? But no, I sales guy mode. I didn't get my commission check forthis month. We'll go to the champagne club next week. We'll haveto do a late shut up. Do you guys like that on your calendarof this? That's all all right. So here's here's another crazy idea thatmy crazy uncle Bob, who was called it in the past, is ziggy. Yeah, starts. He starts telling me trade wins, you need totrade him. Now. All right, he has traded Wentz. Trade Wins, you should trade our quarterbacks. I said to him, if they tradewins, I will buy you a plane, because this team isn't. But yousee, when whens went down, people come out of the woodwork.He did people that just he was never a good quarterback. He put toomuch in them. I'm glad folds his back. He's the savior the team. It's how we are right. We'd extreme city. WHO's we go backand forth? Tybe not maybe not to collective. We have room here,time out. That's what sports talk radio is made out of, the guysthat are on the extreme folds. is taken us back to the Super Bowl. M He should have been playing all season. The shoot as shoot asCarson had a big game, you should have pulled him. And then youhave the guys like I'm a full carson supporter. I if they created him, it would really it almost be like traded. They're not. They're they'renot getting read at all. They're not. When's the last time a franchise quarterback? It doesn't. It's not going.

Doesn't know right. We're not worriedabout that, but he's. He's telling me. Oakley GRUDEN would loveto have them send them to Oakland, get a first round pick, leavefolds in for a couple seasons and start rebuilding. Oakland's broke. First thefirst of all, they have dark car, they have franchise quarter yeah, Ithink. I think you might see him move, I don't know.And maybe. Second of all, they're broke, like they're up in theair, but they're not going to trade Carson Wentz. I agree. It'sjust not going to happen. I want to go back to the plane.Yeah, that's how much cold it's I have. Hey, yeah, sois that? Is that deal just for this season or for Carson's career?Now, that was just it was just this season. Okay, I wouldsay for a career to why would they ever trade them? And Yeah,I agree. Well, you know Joe Montana was was, but that washe traded or free agent. I forgot and I remember, but if yousee, it was that was a different situation. It was actually it's emplongthat won the super bowls. Yeah, Montana played two years in King.Yeah, min it wasn't a nick foles is no Steve Young. No,let's let's set that right. Steve Young is no nick foles. That's correct. Your mouth that. Yeah, I misspeas, which falls lovers would say, yeah, you're right, you're right. Well, when Nick ends up inthe hall of fame, that they can say that he's in there own. Yes, I was just there a couple weeks ago and they're okay,when is boss technical? What is bust is in the hall of fame.Thank it back to me on that. So we're not trading wins then?No, hell not, trading wentz. Okay, do we want to givepredictions on the game other than tomorrow winner loss? I can go through thenumbers like we normally do and give you where each team falls and offense anddefense. Or do we just I haven't been right all season with the predictions. So that's Jacksonville game. I'm fine if you want to blow over itor not, but it's just something we do. That Jacksonville game still makesme wonder what I say. Forty one said like fifty one, thirty sixor some crazy number. gave a fifty. I think I get I think Ithought I heard fifty. Maybe did get drive in there. Yeah.So are we doing predictions? May Ask you want to do? Well,okay, first, I think they lose, and I thought they lost this gameeven before the season started. Just what all that? That whole revengething going on and everything? Yes, fifteen and one for the season though, right, yeah, yeah, so I had this game as a lossfrom the get go. I'm going to stick with the loss for for thefor the game, and I want to say, I don't know, thirtyeight, Fourteen Eagles. Right, I'll wait. You said a loss.So, yeah, I'm probably around that too. I don't think they win, but I mean I hope they look competitive at least. But I stillthink the rams pull away late. I think it's like I'm going to say, thirty four to twenty. All right, yeah, we know you think they'regoing to win. With it's the Christmas season, it's it's a season. Isn't a blow out? Of epic. It's epic proportion. Two, three, thou thirty one eagles. I'm thirty one. A lot of points, a lot of explosions, a lot of excitement. Trying to think.No, you don't have any rams your eagles on your fantasy team. I'mjust trying to think of your pumping up your hope for there's no money.There's no motive here. No, okay, just try to no ulterior mote.Looking for all your angles. May don't sure there's not an angle tothe though. I had a mark Cooper last week and I wanted to cryingover it. Did you have them on the bench? No, Oh no, I had him playing. I had Mike Williams on my bench for thisweek. M playing Thursday night. Tough one actually. Nobody cares about fantasy, but I sadly, but I had her, but I had Kareem Hunt. Had obviously had to deal with that. And then the guy was playing headDerrick Henry, and he hankers Thursday night. I thought I was goingto lose and I actually won. So there you go. That's impressive.But well, it's not that I did anything. I know he managed.Least you didn't bench cooper right, well down, sure somebody out there did. You got it. You got a prediction. DID THINK IT AIN'T gonnabe pretty right. I don't really have a score, but I don't thinkI'm with Brian. I don't think Allie's as good as everybody says they are, but I still don't really see the Eagles mustering up something to compete withthem. All Right, I think we see nate Sutfield at some point duringthe game. Wow, wow, and I'm gonna go one dollar, preciousright, rules rams, one dollar. Do you see the line for thisgame? What is it? What's it up to? Eleven, thirteen?One, wow, what nun thirteen, even if you don't think the eaglesa going to win, load up with Oh yeahs over under is a fiftytwo. What's the money line? That honest? Seven. I wouldn't.I would take that over. It's only fifty two. I'll we're the ramscould colors that at the were soon champagne room and putting everything on the money. Wow, she's seven hundred and fifty. No, seven hundred and fourteen asrand. Some pot for the eagles. It's plus five hundred and thirty five. Whole you ten rover in Jersey...

...to get your phone. Now youcan buck ten to win. When. What is it? Five? What? Five, hundred, thirty, thirty five, need to go to Jersey. Have just called Louis the lip. Okay, let's and then you don'thave to fill out any other w night. Exactly right, Duke, are DC. Who is your guy again? That was making the lines. Butch, but yeah, which, yeah, it's good, it's good as right. That's right, good, a good memory there, Taylor. Every neighborhoodand Philadelphia grow up with a butch, right, that's that's he's a cree. I met him in college and he's from South Philly. It okay whenI grew up with a butch. Also, I'm sure you had a butcher,a Sharky to you having a sharky. You guys have a shown that andno short chip. There's always a chip or a chick, and Ithink of some of the other nickname. There's just some of those names.You're just like yeah, okay, you don't meet those folks out in thesuburbs. There's no butch out and shy. I had got to be a chatout there. Those that close enough to chip. I grew up withinShyet acker and a little liquor is maker Hicker and I see K er Yah. Did there Arn's give them that nickname? Or was not a street n yeah, I was gonna say that's that sucks. Yeah, ACAR Achor wasthe older brother. Little liquor was the younger brother. Season just called liquor. Now ICK ICK, no acker. I knew a girl named Maureen whoher name was Pie. Who called her a pie her whole life? Thatshe's still she's still pie. I was at her stage or they just fromday one she's been pine. We've always known it. His Pie. I'mterrible names here. I give you kids a solid name that they they wantto go buy it, as opposed to come up with a crappy nickname.Did you were blessed with a good nickname. Deck is a solid that was givento me by my parents. Was it? It's solid. Yes,it's all. Never Beek, never been. The only people ever called me DonaldWhar my teachers, and when they did I looked around. Oh yeah, that's me, Donny's no, that's why they came out here. Iget Annie, know you get Donnie. That's why my parents came up withDeeke from Donald Kennedy. They came up with dee because my mom hated bigDon Little Don or Donnie. She wanted know parts of any of it.So he came up with Deeke from Donald Kennedy. He slid. Thanks.Yeah, where where are you? When I was a kick drawing up insouthwest and the s from the God God abused for that nickname. Really,okay, really, wow, I wouldn't think so. I'm sure think aboutI'm sure think about it. I'm sure you're abused for other reasons. Haveall that's to us, but think about it. Should have worked on yourChristopher walking and pressed earlier, because I knew it at the age of eightI was going to look like the Christopher walking or Rick Patina or rick.Yeah, who was? who was your couture sitting here? When we werein Martin's barbecue, there was a picture of them up on the wall thatwe swore it was. It was a Spitty of it to your dad.Remember, we were in born barbecue ordering the food bently. Maybe. Ohit look at alter the ordering. Yeah, when, Yeah, deek, likeif we would be like yelled out. So it's those here. People wouldhave run over to get all we did. You shut at so wedidn't lunch, Dad. We didn't get to Martin's. We got to thepeg leg porker, which was awesome. Yeah, well, that was inWestweat Nashville. We didn't get to we didn't get the Martin's. We gotthe fifty cent tour of all of Nashville on our way to it's. It'spretty hilly. We walked after the game. It was hilly. Yeah, afterthe game it was. It was. Did I said you guys after thegame too? I don't know. We were pretty fired out. Toastedfist wasn't even been. You know that? That was the funny thing about thatNashville trip. Like the guys are with OAKS, my cousin. Ohmy God, we lost. I'm like, we're Nashville Right, okay, yeah, it was just a brutal rock getter sitting in that heat. Yeah, right, I still can't believe we saw Jeff Lory. That lure farthat. It is great. He didn't like that. It was tell itwas all. And Guy that they were with, who is at a friendlywas one of my parents friends. Oh, Guy, spitting image of a JeffLoris I'm half in the bag and I walk in. I'm like,this is a lor what are you doing here? Oh boy, yeah,I imagine that would be a knight when there for yeah, we got abig, big GRENNA. got a whole very eagle fans to get a picturewith, though. God's actually a sport about telling you wanted a looked,I mean, especially because he was wearing the sunglasses. Is Better sport thanI am. It was spot on. It was so funny and then Isaw him a company laughing afterward. He was like yeah, I saw hima couple times afterwards. It. Yeah, I was like, Yo'd you buyaround the drinks for everybody at a want cheap beast to come on?Yeah, that that I'm sure you appreciated. Yeah, Idy, call me cheapasted. We did have one of those in our group too. Wereyou, therefore, when will say his name rhymes with deck. Wouldn't buya round of drinks and hust'll bring that. That doesn't surprising. No, yeah, it was a good time. Nashville's a bland it was awesome.This guy was didn't make it to the...

...gay yeah, he came up thewrong side, I think twice. It's very possi yeah, you came upour side and said they don't the other way. We know. I justdidn't know how to react to the people down there. I went and gotdonuts for everybody because I can't sleep anymore. So up but like er, thirtyin the morning, I've no business being off, so I went towalk to Dunkin donuts and I eagle stuff. I know what passed. Puts tightand fans like Oh, how y'all, good luck today, and I'm likeyourself, are you talking though? Like it's just odd. But thereare Nice folks there and it was a great grip. Little did you know? It's thirty in the morning. Oh God, how was going to turnout? Yeah, well, DJ says, in eight years we can all goback. Yeah, yeah, because in four years they'll be here andthen eight years we're back out there. So that they should fix the handicap, ramp it and you'll be in a real care put it around. Ijust want to stay at that crib that you were in. That was awesome. Ah, that was hook that up, that was movie material. That wasridiculous. You get that? Me? No, my buddies got a hisboss owns a bunch of condos. So it's called the music loft andactually it had a like a music studio set up in the front. So, like Jesus, like Ray, many stay. Yeah, they had microphone, said Benny Bad yeah, mini grand drums. I mean it was awesomeand it was cool, cool. Now I was beyond I mean a badhe just wanted to sleep in a lobby that were toil where in tolets wasan actual throne. It was damn. I mean that's beyond cool. Itwas cool. Let's it. I'll get I'll give oaks props for that.That wasn't me be you know, yeah, Miami next year. Sure did.They got that crept down in Miami. So you can get in there beingbeer as sure. Let's we got. We can figure that out down there, just too. We will pull the resource we got. It's betterwhen you pull the resources rather than going on what Quim, I don't wantto knock the guy, rather than want to go going on one of thosebig trips where they stick you in like, you know, a quality in Imean even Miami, they're going to stick you like inland, I mean, and they're going to rip the benefits. We we can figure we got buffalonext year too. I've been buffalo. There's too fun town. But you'retalking about I'm coming forty s who don't even I'm not jumping through tables. Oh Yeah, all right, stop forty two then too old. That'sfairly new. That hope bills Mafia when we were there. Yeah, thatwas I mean that Chit You lown, and it was a couple years ago. All Gate our there is ridiculous. Your livingly parking and people's backyards.Once everybody has a video camera in their pocket, I think. And it'sencouraged all of that and more. Yes, that's true. We got is theschedule out for next year or not? They who play? But who?Yeah, but not when. So, if it's in December, yeah,if it's early in the year, I I'm made a couple of friends. I would be interested. Got To talk to somebody first. But yeah, you have to finish this season first. Police. Yeah, let's F finishthis season. Wait, it's not. I's done, but they're deep splice. Yeah, we didn't do the last rights. It's not. Howwould you like to be Washington Fan with that lace game in the soil andor in general? Yeah, seriously, you think what was me? It'sfor Philadelphia, long of them. Yeah, and we can argued at it.Sounds like Alex Smith may not play again. They said, yeah,have an all kind of infections with his leg and everything again, period.Yeah, yea, well, he started six years old. Yeah, it'sbad. It's a really bad. Well, but here's the difference between Philadelphia andWashton. I've got a friend this redskins fan. They just want toStanley Cup and that almost means nothing to most of their fan base. Wars, Oh wait, meant so much even as eagles fans. Eagles, I'meagles first, but I wait fills. That kind of satisfied my sports soulfor a while. Those guys. It's sets a weird sports town. Theydid. It's not the same. Yeah, so, you know, it's likethe Florida teams. There's not a lot of there's not a hoody grownnow. Yeah, no other names. The INDE DC fans are like VirginiaCarolinas, you know, West Virginia, like they're scattered everywhere. Yeah,and they're more until like Virginia and Virginia Tech College Ball. Oh yeah,yeah, majority of my friends from Richmond are off Virginia Tech Guys. Yeah, man, they're going to Rott until they change the name of the team. And I'M NOT MR PC, but that's a pretty it's pretty egregious.Yeah, it's bad. It's as bad as it comes. What are owners? Are knucklehead anyway. So you can say Douche bag. I mean you'recrop. Yeah, Bob earlier, you gonna you're gonna be nice to theirthat to Snyder. But all right, he's a douchebag. He's an effindouchebag. Welly, I don't want don't you know, because I never heardyou say that. All right, we're coming up on time here. I'mnot sure if we'll be here next week or now. We're still trying tofigure that out with the holidays coming up. So let's I hope there's a wintomorrow. Don't see it happening. It'd be nice to finish off theseason just have some fun at this point,...

...not expecting any playoffs, but let'sbelieve in Satan. Nick Teller takes this season of miracles. Jimmy,it's the season of Miericle. It is. Sorry, four street. Now we'resomewhere on the crown point road. All Right, thanks all of ourfads. All of the listeners, have a happy holidays. If we don'tcatch up with you next week, boys, we're heading to creek water. Ifanybody we wants to meet, say, like I said, shots of POPson me, creek rocks, brick rocks, Christick and what's Y'all arecrookstead? Actually a thanks.

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