Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode 38 · 3 years ago

Episode 47 ‘Season of hope or on the brink ?’

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Hey, Philly fans, do you remember when we threw snowballs at Santa Claus? Maybe you don't remember it like you were there, or maybe we're a little young, but the national media certainly won't let us free and forget it. It's an easy shot to take. It. A starving fan base will guess what the hungry dogs finally got a Blait to eat. This podcast is here to fight against the cartoon character of the rude, ignorant Philly Fan. This is a passionate fan base with knowledge to make your head spin, and this podcast is going to bring you the perspective of different generations of Eagle season ticket holders and fans when it comes to eagles, football, Philly sports and whatever else is on our minds. Remember, there's always two sides to every story. Did people ever stop and think maybe she, just maybe, Santa Bood first? Thanks for listening in, and don't forget, no one likes us. We don't camp. Good Morning Football fans, here listening to another episode of the Santa Boot First. Live Santa boot first podcast coming to you live from the Wi fi radio studios, powered by Wafar Sports. This is your co host, Jim Marcus in the room with me this beautiful rainy Saturday morning. The magnificent Martin's. Alot it we've gone through introducing to you, you guys, as a well tailor likes. Yes, Taylor likes the magnificent Martin's. And there's like a TV show or something. It's need the cheap s theme song. There you go. A little, yeah, a little lone wolf for mcguiverer music. Meg, it's matching mustaches and not that. No, no, I think that would be amazing. That's right, Jo, quiet you. I don't think. I don't think DJ can. I don't think I could grow baby face it. I don't think I could go out. Didn't you want? You had a mustache back in the Dato, didn't you do? I had to go tea back in the day. I could see the cat a full beard. Back in the day, I could see that. But I'm gonna have pictured and more like a Tom Selik mustand now. No, no, no, no, the bars. Maybe now I would go with a food man chew. Maybe, yeah, crazy, but what's wrong with a food man show? You have a problem with the mustache, but food man chew is fine. Yeah, and now I like the Food Man Chew Love. Should go with the Dario Sarich you know, shave in the middle of it. Outside about you miss some how about the Joe Buck drop? Now that we know, what do you think about? Joe Bucks attempted a beard tailer. It's very yeah, it's very light. It's like I just like picked up the hair from my beer Y, trim it Thruin Egy face and whatever. Six stays. Yeah, that's like the suddeny crawlsby mustache whenever some Millar curl across his lip. Well, that's what. If you don't have the beard game, you don't like I can't grow a beard right. So after two days my wife's like, you look like a Predator, so don't grow anything. So I just go clean shape and you guys can grow up a healthy beard. It looks good. I can't do it, so you just gotta gotta work what you got. That makes sense. That makes sense, it does. And then voice you here joining us here in studio. We missed them. Avalon, Brian, Brian Flannery. What's up, guys? Happy to be here. It's good to happy. It's been a while. We've missed been a while. New Job, you know, a lot of stuff running around. Uh Huh. So you're here in the new digs. New Digs. They're Nice. It's amazing. Yep, the toilet's not link in here. The same smelling and and it's warning. There's not a phone booth. Bathrooms on a phone booth. The guys aren't outside with right but blunts. and Mr if you just you just miss them, they're still out there. And the phone booth isn't in the studio. That's true. That is true. got a bathroom that's actually outside the studio and the neighbors are probably a little friendlier. Hey, yeah, whatever, ship. I've never heard of that place. It doesn't open to after seven, okay, but allegedly. Let's allectually. Yeah, that's a sponsorship opportunity. Father Kovala might not be happy about it, but you know, we could bring the ladies of Champagne over and that the ladies of Champagne here. That here, that owner. And Yeah, and we haven't figured out the DRV in the parking lot yet. We haven't figured out what's going on there, that there's an RV RV parked in a park a lot next to yeah, lady Harvy's last police specialized club in bar. Yes, here you go. That's the private clubs after around. Yeah, that's the VIP pre's a mobile champagne route. It's the Uber of champagne rooms. They drive you around, will drive you home. He go. I don't show to speak. Yeah, I don't know if you want the ladies driving you home. I know you think Uber Sergees expensive. You gotta see what happened there, Jesus. All right, do we get a little sidetrack and we talk about football, Eagles podcast? Right, yeah, I believe so, ill for now, flame and show up and then we go to, I know, hell in a hand bassent real fast. All right, we did. We try to get Father Camari in here tonight to give last rights, but he bat on this. Yeah, yeah, I wonder why. Yes, now I think. I don't think he knew frotten was coming. I think. I don't think anything that with. I just feel bad. Wh when he first said he wanted to meet me, he was excited that he met me that now he's trying to erase the story of my life. Right,...

...all right, let's get into the debacle that was the cowboys Gamer. The baccles are good choice of word. Start it off. Like I said, our show started off a shit, shit show with the fumble that wasn't a fumble. No, no, wait, it was fun. It was ruled a fumble. They just couldn't tell out of the five eagles players that were on top of them all, which one of them recovered it. So they had to give it back to the cowboys. I guess it's don't work. And how do you miss that at right fumble from the get go? How did they not call it a fumble to start? Why do we have to go to replay in a challenge to even establish that it was a fumble? But, but why can't they get it right? Like I'm a big NBA Fan and I get annoyed with replay after replay after replay. But the NBA does something right. They always make sure they get the call right. Hmmm, and the NFL seems to have some kind of WWF mentality where you see what happened last week that there's no explaining that. And the NBA makes the call in house right correct doesn't go anywhere other than it. They still referees. They have a review center, but yeah, it's always a referee. The referees on the sideline at the scores table, looking at the computer screen and making the call from there. But the Tailor's point, they're talking to someone in Secaucus. That's okay, got it. Hey, this is what we see. Can you confirm it? That's kind of their process. I I don't like going up to New York or, you know, D Nhl. They do the same thing with Toronto. I don't know why. The technology is there to make the call in house. Why do you have to go to, you know, a city that's several hundred miles away to make a call? Because the fixes in. There's no other act. I don't want to be the conspiracy. Yeah, I agree. And why did we lose that? We lose the channel, we lost the challenge and we lost the time out. We live right because we had you lost. We challenged, but we won the challenge, I think because all challenge the fumble. Doug challenged. It was a full right, but we still lost the time out. We won the challenge. You're right, the Chi know. So technically we won the challenge because the challenged as a fumble. Soday's they say, yeah, it's a fumble, but then we continue. We lost the time out and a challenge. I'm with friend. It's it's it's the cowboys. Yeah, they want to see the holboys back. Yeah, no, they won't say that was the real key. My Dad's always one of these guys. At all are the restaurant to get us? They just want the cowboys to win. On What Your Dad, but there is. I saw something on social media earlier and weak that there four weeks in a round the cowboys head. Questionable calls. Yeah, by the referees go their way. Were no call, God, and offensive pass interference was worse than the funnel in my mind. Actually, actually, I disagree with you, and here's why. Bullshit. It was bullshit, but God he at least it's a bang, Bang play and it's it's a quick decision. Where's the fumble? They review it and it's clear. Okay, from that perspective, well, it's kind of like corn of fould and best, but once you call it, it's it is done. It is what it is. It was a bad call, but I don't think it was as egregious my beef with the God. Our call was. It was the call the offensive, quote unquote, offensive pass interference happened before the five yard mark. Off The line of scrimmage, right, if you're less inside the five yard line. So now is the defender the only one allowed to make contact inside five yards? Don't no, they missed. Not One, but two had helmet the helmet contacts on Dallas got her and if you look at the replay, his helmet actually comes up. Yes, and that's why he lost his helmet in the end zone when he went dove into the end zone. And why is the referee that's thirty, forty yards back, judge to call it? Yes, that's making the call. And then not the referee that's right there. And and for a past and Affairans. Doesn't the ball have to be in the air? Yes, that ball thrown. Yet correct, the ball was not thrown it. In that case it would be a hold, yeah, hold, never. Yeah. So all those things. It just blew my mind on that, on that call. When I saw that flag coming flying through the middle of the screen, I was like do it. Yeah, no, no, no, I thought all I cool. They got they see that helmet, the helmet, because it was thrown on the hit. Yeah, it makes it appeared. It appeared when he got hit and then he was like, Matt, sorry, folcuses off. It's a bits of what? What? What are you doing? And how can you make that call from forty yards away? I love that. We were we'd had we were together for the game. They had a tailgate, say Dansoms, so we did a little facebook live hit before the game. But we're in the gym of the school and all these people watching this game and you could look around and everybody wanted to just start drop a F bomb. Yeah, God, yeah, but there were, there were children, but he kind of like bit their tongue. The pastors right there sitting in the front watching the Gamer, like guy, children involved. All, it's your faults, andsome too, is the patron saying a bad call, right, I mean it's your nice...

...fault. that. That was God, that was so brute. Those those calls were just so brutal. And then there was a on the forget what play it was, but there was a blatant hole. The Guy Tackled our defensive lineman and it was not called. And I forget what the call what the result was the play, branding Graham, it was I think it was the third quarter. Yeah, it was after that, after half time. Yeah, I mean at that the offensive lineman literally pulled him down. Yep, they did get them next to them. Call it. They called it later, but yeah, you're and and then the makeup call against Alice with the with the roughing the passer. It was the Benett call where it where he just pulls them that yet get light, pulls him down on top of them and they call an offense or or roughing the passer, like they did against Bennett, I think in the Minnesota game. I forget, but yeah, I know it's a makeup call, but that was a bullshit makeup call. They that was so stupid, that call. And I ATE DALLAS. Well, there's there's a safe there's fired up. She's so what's there say? There's a saving grace here. And your son is the same age as my son and they had it too easy. Last year they win the Super Bowl. First Year, my son calling on. Now my son's on the couch screaming at them like I am. So he's officially one of us. And the building, the causes exactly building. All right, I like that. I like that. I asked him. So we got the Texans team stiff. I said, do you still want to go? But Carson is not going to be playing. He's still in goes the was to go. So we'll head down the Texans game, but we're going to tease what's going to happen now. Well, I'll let you'll get that. We'll get that. I don't want to blame the whole game thing. The rest much of that'd like to. I feel like it's a game we should have won, but bad play calling again my doug. Yeah, Doug needs to I feel like every week I said he needs to figure out. He hasn't done it. I think the one point it comes to mind that we kept talking about was that option where you're running the option to the short side of the field, and neither Carson kept it, neither Carson or I don't know if it was Adams or if it was sprawls at that point, but neither of when I got what I got the first down. There's the third and four, I think, and he does the option to the short side of the field. It's he has not impressed me the season with his play calling. Dj and I were talking about a bit on the ride over and I think we've said it here before and other people are sitting to it. I think Frank Reik's really hurting them losing him. D Filippo, he saw he got K in to Minnesota. People were saying bringing him back. Doesn't sound like duck, doesn't sound like Doug wants hi back now and I don't know that I want them back either. I don't know that he was as much of an influence on the offense is as Reike was. HMM. Well, I mean in light of what came out this week with Carson with the fractured back, and at first I thought that was a cover and now it sounds like it's legitimate. Yeah, you know, it sounds like he's been limited since we gate. So is it all dougs play calling or is it the limit abilities, of the limited limitations of the quarterback, which weren't limited before? And I want to know with that story, how much and when Carson knew, because it seems like he's been off. Yeah, yeah, he looked healthy to beginning the season. No, I've been questioning his decision making a season, holding the ball too long, not throwing the ball away, but then you did see something seem to just hell off a little bit mid season there and he taught the touch. Seems off. The over the middle throws seem off, like the the mobile throws that he can usually make seam off. So any original reports were saying that the team knew but didn't tell him. Then I read something this morning that know they had been doing the scans since sweet seven or eight. To say, he goes at the seventy six. That's where I was. That's all got with this. Whose medical staff is better? It's Bobby Clark it Ericly jots is still on that plane now. He's still in the TUB. Isn't heasy? Isn't even a dumb that Joddy Leclaire saving his life in the tube? Yeah, but yeah, so if Carson didn't know about it until this week, and you're a guy that's on the verge of signing your biggest contract, if you know that the team knew about this at a coaching staff knew about this, does that kind of bias you're thinking of whether you want to resign here. Do you think he he loses trust? I don't think so. Who are all to talking about that now? Yeah, I don't think he's lost trust. They let what was it, three medical staff people go after the Super Bowl. I've heard this week that I did not hear before, and DJ was talking earlier in the week, that the stay should be fired just, you know, because of how this whole thing is worked out. If it's true that they were hid, I don't I don't know. Do you guys believe like I know we want to believe in conspiracies. Something doesn't add up regardless. Something doesn't add up. Its sounds like maybe some incompetence. But like, backs are tricky things, right, like people get a back injurid's hard to diagnosis. A lot of soft tissue there, there's bone, there's cartilage. I can't believe for the life of me that they knew he was hurt and they they just ignored it or didn't or covered it up. There's just there's no gain there...

...for them to do that right, especially he's playing poorly. They're not going to risk the franchise quarterback if it's a you know, I know Manuatcho was out making noises. We can see other scrubs and listen their NFL players. I don't mean that, I don't mean to minimize them, but you know, the backup, backup, back up to the Barel Elf, all right, the backup to the backup has a slightly strained MCL and they tell him to go out there and he tears it. All right, who gives a crap? You're not going to do that with car Sarsons, know. So after the Super Bowl the eagles head athletic trainer and two other head team physician and team health in turn, left after the Super Bowl. So that's three left or fired. Now let go step down. Okay, I said. So you got the ring and they were out. Yeah, I guess. Is that like Bud kilmore or ordering the trainer to give them the shot? All right, I jump. I. I. my feelings on Carson through the season was, I thought, I commend him for making all that effort to come back, but considering the type of injuries that he suffered, I think he needed to take a little more time and if I were the eagles, I would have waited till we had two losses before I put him back in there. When he came back to I think our record was two in one when he came back, or one in one. One. He gave back one, one, three. We we three, so we were one and one. I would have waited till we had two losses before I would have brought him back because he needed as much time as possible to because those they're once upon a time, either one of those injuries was the end of your career because the technology and the the technique, which just surgery technique could just wasn't available to fix those types of injuries. Either one of them was your was a career under he had both of them right. So he was for you know, to be playing at the time where he's playing, that they were able to do the surgeries to correct the injuries to get him back. But I think he came back. I, like I said, I commend him for doing everything he did. I think he was one of the few guys in that locker room that had the mentality that we need to you know, we can't take any time off. We got to get back and get back to our routine last year and what we did last year and but just kind of settle it was growling. It's because everybody knows the teams that actually show up in the playoffs play the second half of the season way better than the first. Yes, yeah, so I agree. That's a silly way of looking at it. What's a silly way of looking at it? Like, Oh, wait, we have to rush this guy back, like, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, and it, yeah, it's that the Games don't matter quite yet. Right, right. And I would have waited to bring Carson back, like I said, until we had at least two losses, depended on how we looked through those games. Even I don't even know if I go two losses, though, because I'd rather have them set a deadline. Right. They always say it's a year injury and he pushed it back nine months. Why not wait that year or whatever's just come up with a predeterminate because then if you if you wait till the guns against his head, then he's going to come back and press anyway. Right. So I become of if you lose two games, they start off one and two. All you got to come back then. I don't know. You're running the same thing now. I think a lot of it was on cars and they're just wanting to come back and play just because he's such a competitive drugger. I am an I don't needs to take control there though, right, but I think the team looked at him and said he's healthy, he's healthy enough to go out there, but he wants to play. Let's get him out there and play like you don't. You don't sit your franchise quarter back if you think he's a hundred percent healthy and expectation that he still needs, I still think, this whole year to be completely back. I know, isn't that shortsighted? Don't we remember what happened to the franchise quarterback ninety miles down the road? Right, that brought back R G three. Exactly. You're exactly wrong. I don't put that on me, I know, but that only that's what happens. Look at Andrew Lock. Yeah, right back really. Yeah, then you ended up missing what almost two years? HMM, and he's still not back towards is like first year that he's actually playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I that's a very good analogy with the RG three, because I kind of was thinking of that same since nare scenario playing out with us and I didn't want to see because he's never recovered from that. Never I think that's more the way that he plays too. Yeah, yeah, really shut him down and and that's part of the reason why I haven't gotten all over Carson. I mean I see him play. I know he's not the same player as he was last year. I see that. But the reason why I'm not all over him is because of his knee injury. And now is, it turns out, this back injury which we didn't know about and apparently it's started back in October, I think it was. Yeah, week seven or eight. Yeah. So, I mean, but go back and look weeks three through six heat and we...

...were all saying, he looks like he's bad. Yeah, it doesn't look like he's been other than just not until the first is on him. The first giants game, is when I felt maybe he is, know that he's back. He it's Carson, but he's regressed a little since then. It's just I feel like it's just the Philly look of we finally get this guy and new we think is, you know, the savior, and falls right out from under us. I don't want to be kept it up to this and but we just want the super badly. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. It's not that bad. Listen, let's and draw the analogy. Doing bead right and bead struggled. We said you gotta be wait, you got to be patient, let's be smart, and now you see what you're dealing with. When with him bead, you gotta Give Carson. He's young. You got to give him time. What's he twenty four, entering his third year next year. I mean, we're all right. A quarterback. We've other conserved. Okay, quarter I'm willing to right off the year, so to speak. I didn't expect it. I I had them back in the Super Bowl to beginning of season, because we returned twenty out of twenty two starters. So I thought we were in the mix when it come playoff time, going far in the playoffs. I didn't expect the season to play out the way it did. That said, I'm okay with you know. All Right, fine, it's water onto the bridge. There's nothing we can do about it. Now. Let's move on to next year. Next year we come back, things better be back in order. And you know what's he called? The new normal? Right, he calls it. I think we all had green colored goggles on to write. If you were a short hit in the spring, it would have been Doug Peterson, Martin. Yeah, right, I mean, let's be honest. So do we have a shot at anything the season? What are you? Are you saying? Seasons over, doing a shot of POPs? Do it. Yeah, and we do there. POPs is here and it's to do with us. Yeah, perfect, Perry, you champaign room guys, shame less plug. Yeah, anybody wants to me is for head to crick water after words. Anybody wants to stop by Crick Water, I buy a pop. Papa pops if the papa POPs. WHAT IS BRINK WATER BAR? Is it crick what is it crick water? Have you good? Have you Philly high this? Or's a creek? will now it's not. It's KIRKLAE. I thinked it a guy behind the class. I see I say creek. I grew up in Rocksboro. So it's a Hicking Creek. But yeah, if you know my white it's a creek and I'm like, it's a creek. Yep, but I'm just, I'm just. I not drink water, right, you drink water? You don't drink water. No, my drink water. They're in Bucks County now. They're now. Now. No, no, Alora is the same thing. When we said it. It's there. They're judy out of boys that own the bar. Okay, so it's Krick water. Okay, so water spelled the way it sound nice and corect. Can we get us out shot of section eight there over there. Depends on if Adams, they're not here to Lord Adam crosses the ball across the ALLEGATA. Go home. I don't think. What was that place? We won't get the plug as well it was. That is a good that's great food too. Donna's is a good bar. Please come on this game. Boy, he's high man. I don't know where I was. I may raise it over there, I don't know, but I'm not gonna say that, because he was drinking budweiser last week. And what's wrong with that? Moving on. Yeah, you put it. You're an all. Take in there to impre to D and I also want to ride away. Here's an interesting question. You for you if fulls didn't get hurt last or falls, if wins didn't get hold hurt last week last season, and folds in there. Let me restart over. Let me start over and anyone happens got a pope. You need some problem. If Carson didn't get hurt last season, do they still win the Super Bowl with him as quarterback? That that is a the hot button question lately. What are we doing? HONEST ANSWER? Yeah, Noo. No, nick folds went on the I'm not saying he's a better quarterback. I'm not going to debate that he's the best quarterback and franchise history, but he went on the role of Rolls Ms Super Bowl before and look at the defense. Didn't stop anybody. Tom Brady had an epic super fousand yards. The only reason we want just because we had the ball last. Yeah, Nick Four had a better super bowl. Yeah, I mean who who beats Tom Brady when Tom Brady throws for over five hundred yards and however many touchdowns he through for a club of what? Nobody beats a Lub of one. Yeah, it's nick faults, Nick Falls. Right, man, my my answer to that question is I don't know. Yeah, that's kind of where I was at. Yeah, I mean we both agree with me. You know, we want to say yes, obviously saw. Yeah, you want to say yes, but you don't know, Steve, because whence is not putting up better numbers, he's probably putting up similar numbers, or maybe a little less, then folds did in the year in the playoff. rount at all. Right, right, yeah, be He'd be hard pressed to beat those not. Yeah, I mean it well, put the dynamic of the...

...offense changes to write like exact more that ARP with Nick Foles, where it's quick and get rid of, whereas whence it's more, you know, mobility and that sort of thing. It's just a different game. So do you think my point was? Do you think the defense is they didn't. There wasn't enough tape and folds, but they also probably thinking this guy's not going to be this. Let's focus on something else, let's stop there running game that. Maybe they had that card downstally. Yeah, there, yea, and bellot checking said that to you when he didn't play whoever it was he didn't. I forget who he got. His mother, Malcolm Butler, still bad and he's a he was a starter. Correct. Yeah, that he didn't play him full one play. Hold on, that's fellatshit. No, bellot check said we don't think nick foles is going to beat us, and well to show it. Y. Yeah, when did he say that? Because he sat mark. Now that very ain't that was it. Was it discipline thing with Butler is Miss Goud. Okay, and when it comes crunch time and you're behind, are you still going to sit your starter? Yeah, because your bellot. Do you want another rate? You are trying to shove it up everybody's ass. He is more pliable in policy than bellot check. He's the most stubborn football coach ever and he's got the most rings, but he's not going to backtrack on that. I think they just missplayed it. I don't think it was because of folds, and he's going to use that as an excuse. But they had plenty of tape. Yeah, but based on falses track record, what did he show you other than that one season of twenty seven and two that he could play like that? But I just said, though, what he did the Vikings game and even what he did to a long set in the he's he lit the Viking. Yeah, he did a great defense. Yeah, he did. I mean if that was if I'm the head coach, I'm watching that, you have two weeks before the super bowl going yeah, wow, I we got a prep for this guy and I wouldn't go in there taking that lightly. That's true, you know, that's that's true. Jelt hitting two horn runs in the game and the next time you know, you think he's Bay a bruth. I'm full of analogies this morning, like I'm in full sale guy. I think. I think belchick would have. Would rather won the game and stuck the Malcolm Butler thing in your face and said see how much genius I am I getting, yeah, out my top clinner. Right, that's true. So that's the kind of guy he is. Yes, so, so, then nicky folds. Here he is. He's going to be playing for the well, we'll see if you should be probably in the next three games. La. Their past defense is probably they're like middle of the pack. I keep hearing that they're very susceptible to the RPO, which is nick's bread and butter. Any chance they wouldn't this game out in La. I mean any given Sunday is always a chance that. What's your percentage? I don't like that answer. I mean that's not high, but a long way of saying no. Yeah, I mean I want to say there's a chance, but I just I don't. I don't think so. La's offense, our defense, is not stopping them. No, I don't think they forgot last year either. That's true. That yet that that's my whole thing. They got a big, huge revenge chip on their shoulder and they could use the wind. Yeah, yes, they got to keep pace with the saints and also they're averaging thirty something points at home. Are Back Defensive, backfield is non existent. And Yeah, I just you know, I don't say it. I put our chances at winning at about ten percent. Trying to see who they played next week. If this is any type of trap game where they overlook this, like everybody overlook Nick Foles. Well, look with the Bear Baltimore. But no, I'm sorry, that's the charters bell the other LA teams. They're at Arizona. So now they no worries for next week or worries for next week. Look with the bears. Did them last week? Yeah, they did them last week. Yet so they're going to come out and girl, he's going to get forty five touches with three hundred yards and Gospel to throw at seventy five times for seven hundred ukuarts. Jesus right is that? We're saying? It's just a bad and simulators. Now that's percentage or two. It might be off. Okay, put that down. I'll put money on that. I look up with the props with my bookie and see what I can get, what kind of money I can get on that. But yeah, I agree. They Chicago made them look silly or made them look definitely look beatable. Yeah, showed teams all right, this is how you play defense against them. So I think they're looking to come out and kick somebody's excess. We get in Chicago's say we follow what Chicago's defense is really good. Yeah, they are solid, everybody else and it was really cold. They want to show they're still kings of the NFC. So unfortunate rams. For us, we have to be hitting you over yet be and they got to keep pace. So it's do we want Nikki folds to have a good game? Do we want him to finish out this season? Do we want to see Nate Sudfeld? I you didn't know. I'm worried. Huh. They're going to win tomorrow. Is always want in the bottom ractor.

They're going to win tomorrow. There's he's always one in the bunch. Why dead? Yeah, this reason sex as a OS. I think that RPO throws the rams off. I think they learned something from what the bears did. I don't think the rams were as good as we thought they were and I think this is kind of the eagles last stand. I think they go out to La Tomorrow. They win the game. I agree. I'm dead serious. I don't. I don't think the rams of the team and everybody thought they were in begetting the season dope. We've shown some holes, but I stick by there. They're going to be looking to kick somebody's ans this week just to show that they want us to think they are that team for the season. Let's see what happens in the earlier games. Let's see what happens in the Vikings game. See if the eagles have something to play for. They're going to be aware of that. They're going to be scoreboard watching. Yeah, so I think the Eagles win the game. Mathmatically, we still have a shot at the playoffs. Right. You need to stop the Vikings is to lose two games. I think it's two panthers to lose two games. They're doing all the sextra math. That's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, that's two other teams that need to lose a game. I can't remember who they add. That's a lot of it. The playoff to get the wild card. Well, the Vikings haven't looked all that good. No, they're not re Shul. They're not good. The same us and the Panthers sputtered the panthers like there were and they have to play New Orleans this week. Rex. Yeah, so those are two teams I think we could take. I can't remember who the other two teams were that needed a loss. And don't be the giants. I don't think you need I don't think it's just yeah, I think it's I think it's just likings and panthers. Yeah, okay, because it's like a three week like it's those three teams fighting for the seconds, right, because the seahaw problem, as they have it, the Vikings have a tie. So, yeah, that's we're you a little bit of help. You can't finish tied with the Viking. They have because they have the time breaker. Right then, that's all. But I have a killer. That's the killer. The Vikings in the panthers have the tie breaker against us, but they have a tie. Also, the Vikings have a ten. Yeah, yeah, excuse it a little bit. Yeah, it does. And that that's all, assuming we would out night. So this, this is this is a tough game. Texans coming here. They still have something we like tomorrow. You're not alone. Ryan Anderson here in facebook live stream. He's got the Eagles win. One hundred and seventeen. Joshuay, one hundred and twenty seven. Yeah, sorry, I'm my glasses one. All right, it's not extre got your car, not excuse bright as this. Great jobs on so baby, because Kenny are your green guy less. All right, so you're giving them a win. What do you what are your thoughts on playoffs? That's let's go one. We can hid go while. We get a time, but they're going to win to borrow. Okay, it's Christmas. You gotta believe. Did you see the bit? They've got the St Nick Billboard up already? I believe ready Nick. We believe in sat nick. We said it last season got us there. I'm worried, though. They were thinking this offseason. I'm sure we're doing the alley's mind anyway, that he can get we can trade nick for something. He's an asset that we can use. Maybe get a fourth round or third round her. I think there's probably little high but if he comes out he stinks, it's does it really matter? I mean I don't think so. That Third Fourth Round Pick it nice to have, but you've got bigger prop you've got bigger fish to to FRY. Yeah, than that. I mean you've got to worry about an offensive line that you've got a revamp a little bit. You've got a second to her. You've got to address a secondary. You need a secondary. Yet not a revample secondary. You need to say you need another running back. Sidney Jones is yeah, we overhive did it. Disciplined too much. At least hurt if he's in her can't stand a field, but even when he plays the well, the whole NFL though, the secondary player. They can't play football anymore. That's a good point. You know, you can't touch anybody. It's crazy. I mean point, unless you have a stall on your helmet, I guess. But you know, Brian Dawkins, Troy Vincent, all those guys, Bobby Taylor, they wouldn't they would be average guys today. We love rules. You see the Thursday night game? Yeah, yeah, that's the greatest example of it, I think. So far it's crazy. It's crazy, I mean it's I don't know, it's frustrating. The ruining the game. I agree. It's getting hard to watch all these flies, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, it's it's certainly not the game that I grew up watching and it's not even the game. Probably DJ grow up watching. Well, I mean they weren't face mask for some time now. The exact yeah, they're not wearing that's all right, I guess I said it. Want to tea for you did. It's been a while, but it's it's it's like when baseball was juice in the balls, because that got everybody excited. Everybody loves to scores. You mean I faseball was exciting, right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's nobody wants to see at nine six football team now, yeah, not exciting. We want to see less. You like defense, fifty three to fifty one games that you want to see? The chart, the RAM's chiefs team, money, Nika. Yeah, and now with fantasy, everybody wants to play a story. So over unders of runners. It's world's changeing. Football is changing. Yes, Goddamn millennial,...

...screw out. Somebody. A millennial, very thin, soft. I don't know where's the where's the cut off for the millennial to why don't two thousand? Yes, I don't know about eighty, eighty five to two thousand. It's all just made up generations. It really is let's be honest. Hmm Okay, all right, it's socially except for the greatest generation. You give them their respect. But when when men roll met? Where when men were man that sort of thing. Yeah, I wonder. Rais are called baby boomers for a reason. Yeah, because when the Jener is, your genet, greatest generation, came back, it should have been baby cooper's really coops hoopsters right, and look sloops oops, mistaken generation. Yeah, we're gonna get somewhere angry. Where where we going after that? I don't know. I don't know. All right. So I think we're talking playoffs. Hopes, Flans has, take it one game at a time. I'm looking at you. Bullies are yeah, I I agree. I'd thank you. Got To take a long game at a time. You have to take I get it. But are you willing to there a load it on the table and put your prediction out there? You think they make it the playoffs? I don't think so. I think with the remaining scheduled tomorrow, that offense against our defense is not ideal. And then next week you have the Texans. WHO's covering Deandre Hopkins? Nobody. So, Malcolm HMM, which is an I don't yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I would like that match up Beire so I don't think they I don't think they can pull it off. I don't see. No, they're not going to make the playoffs the way they did. This team starts off games, you know, I start off old, start or don't start. Yeah, that's what kills us against the cowboys and in playful three quarters. Absolutely killed us against the cowboys. And they they you can't win ball games when you, you know, don't start a game until the third quarter. It's just not going to happen, not in the NFL anyway. You might be able to get away with it somewhere else, but not in the NFL. And it's just it's mindboggling to consider where we came from last year to where we have arrived this year, the downfall that has happened, that has occurred over the first fourteen weeks. It's it's staggering and it's disappointing and it's irritating, annoying, all those things. I think it's disappointing. But I we talked about what a success would be for the season and I think the main thing for which it was was a healthy car. Yep, so we had that for a little bit. Yeah, and now we don't. So so I guess you playoff run would a bit nice. Yeah, we all know the whole Super Bowl we repeat things very hard to do, even though we predicted the Eagles in Super Bowl. But yeah, I was I said in opening the show, I want to Father Cavarian here to give this team last right. So I don't well, he's got on two more chances at this week. We know. Sorry, I don't want to be a downer, but I know. But we see how that works out right. I mean I'm a recovering Catholic and we see how many people get given the last right. It's and then they get another twenty years. So maybe that wouldn't be such a good idea. Okay, you know, now just for the season on, not for Carson's career. I know he's seasons of life support, but it's not dead yet. Guys, you have little faith. It's the Christmas season. Come on, Hey, this guy's positive. I don't do. Where do you come from? Coming sales guys? But no, I sales guy mode. I didn't get my commission check for this month. We'll go to the champagne club next week. We'll have to do a late shut up. Do you guys like that on your calendar of this? That's all all right. So here's here's another crazy idea that my crazy uncle Bob, who was called it in the past, is ziggy. Yeah, starts. He starts telling me trade wins, you need to trade him. Now. All right, he has traded Wentz. Trade Wins, you should trade our quarterbacks. I said to him, if they trade wins, I will buy you a plane, because this team isn't. But you see, when whens went down, people come out of the woodwork. He did people that just he was never a good quarterback. He put too much in them. I'm glad folds his back. He's the savior the team. It's how we are right. We'd extreme city. WHO's we go back and forth? Tybe not maybe not to collective. We have room here, time out. That's what sports talk radio is made out of, the guys that are on the extreme folds. is taken us back to the Super Bowl. M He should have been playing all season. The shoot as shoot as Carson had a big game, you should have pulled him. And then you have the guys like I'm a full carson supporter. I if they created him, it would really it almost be like traded. They're not. They're they're not getting read at all. They're not. When's the last time a franchise quarterback? It doesn't. It's not going.

Doesn't know right. We're not worried about that, but he's. He's telling me. Oakley GRUDEN would love to have them send them to Oakland, get a first round pick, leave folds in for a couple seasons and start rebuilding. Oakland's broke. First the first of all, they have dark car, they have franchise quarter yeah, I think. I think you might see him move, I don't know. And maybe. Second of all, they're broke, like they're up in the air, but they're not going to trade Carson Wentz. I agree. It's just not going to happen. I want to go back to the plane. Yeah, that's how much cold it's I have. Hey, yeah, so is that? Is that deal just for this season or for Carson's career? Now, that was just it was just this season. Okay, I would say for a career to why would they ever trade them? And Yeah, I agree. Well, you know Joe Montana was was, but that was he traded or free agent. I forgot and I remember, but if you see, it was that was a different situation. It was actually it's emplong that won the super bowls. Yeah, Montana played two years in King. Yeah, min it wasn't a nick foles is no Steve Young. No, let's let's set that right. Steve Young is no nick foles. That's correct. Your mouth that. Yeah, I misspeas, which falls lovers would say, yeah, you're right, you're right. Well, when Nick ends up in the hall of fame, that they can say that he's in there own. Yes, I was just there a couple weeks ago and they're okay, when is boss technical? What is bust is in the hall of fame. Thank it back to me on that. So we're not trading wins then? No, hell not, trading wentz. Okay, do we want to give predictions on the game other than tomorrow winner loss? I can go through the numbers like we normally do and give you where each team falls and offense and defense. Or do we just I haven't been right all season with the predictions. So that's Jacksonville game. I'm fine if you want to blow over it or not, but it's just something we do. That Jacksonville game still makes me wonder what I say. Forty one said like fifty one, thirty six or some crazy number. gave a fifty. I think I get I think I thought I heard fifty. Maybe did get drive in there. Yeah. So are we doing predictions? May Ask you want to do? Well, okay, first, I think they lose, and I thought they lost this game even before the season started. Just what all that? That whole revenge thing going on and everything? Yes, fifteen and one for the season though, right, yeah, yeah, so I had this game as a loss from the get go. I'm going to stick with the loss for for the for the game, and I want to say, I don't know, thirty eight, Fourteen Eagles. Right, I'll wait. You said a loss. So, yeah, I'm probably around that too. I don't think they win, but I mean I hope they look competitive at least. But I still think the rams pull away late. I think it's like I'm going to say, thirty four to twenty. All right, yeah, we know you think they're going to win. With it's the Christmas season, it's it's a season. Isn't a blow out? Of epic. It's epic proportion. Two, three, thou thirty one eagles. I'm thirty one. A lot of points, a lot of explosions, a lot of excitement. Trying to think. No, you don't have any rams your eagles on your fantasy team. I'm just trying to think of your pumping up your hope for there's no money. There's no motive here. No, okay, just try to no ulterior mote. Looking for all your angles. May don't sure there's not an angle to the though. I had a mark Cooper last week and I wanted to crying over it. Did you have them on the bench? No, Oh no, I had him playing. I had Mike Williams on my bench for this week. M playing Thursday night. Tough one actually. Nobody cares about fantasy, but I sadly, but I had her, but I had Kareem Hunt. Had obviously had to deal with that. And then the guy was playing head Derrick Henry, and he hankers Thursday night. I thought I was going to lose and I actually won. So there you go. That's impressive. But well, it's not that I did anything. I know he managed. Least you didn't bench cooper right, well down, sure somebody out there did. You got it. You got a prediction. DID THINK IT AIN'T gonna be pretty right. I don't really have a score, but I don't think I'm with Brian. I don't think Allie's as good as everybody says they are, but I still don't really see the Eagles mustering up something to compete with them. All Right, I think we see nate Sutfield at some point during the game. Wow, wow, and I'm gonna go one dollar, precious right, rules rams, one dollar. Do you see the line for this game? What is it? What's it up to? Eleven, thirteen? One, wow, what nun thirteen, even if you don't think the eagles a going to win, load up with Oh yeahs over under is a fifty two. What's the money line? That honest? Seven. I wouldn't. I would take that over. It's only fifty two. I'll we're the rams could colors that at the were soon champagne room and putting everything on the money. Wow, she's seven hundred and fifty. No, seven hundred and fourteen as rand. Some pot for the eagles. It's plus five hundred and thirty five. Whole you ten rover in Jersey...

...to get your phone. Now you can buck ten to win. When. What is it? Five? What? Five, hundred, thirty, thirty five, need to go to Jersey. Have just called Louis the lip. Okay, let's and then you don't have to fill out any other w night. Exactly right, Duke, are DC. Who is your guy again? That was making the lines. Butch, but yeah, which, yeah, it's good, it's good as right. That's right, good, a good memory there, Taylor. Every neighborhood and Philadelphia grow up with a butch, right, that's that's he's a cree. I met him in college and he's from South Philly. It okay when I grew up with a butch. Also, I'm sure you had a butcher, a Sharky to you having a sharky. You guys have a shown that and no short chip. There's always a chip or a chick, and I think of some of the other nickname. There's just some of those names. You're just like yeah, okay, you don't meet those folks out in the suburbs. There's no butch out and shy. I had got to be a chat out there. Those that close enough to chip. I grew up within Shyet acker and a little liquor is maker Hicker and I see K er Yah. Did there Arn's give them that nickname? Or was not a street n yeah, I was gonna say that's that sucks. Yeah, ACAR Achor was the older brother. Little liquor was the younger brother. Season just called liquor. Now ICK ICK, no acker. I knew a girl named Maureen who her name was Pie. Who called her a pie her whole life? That she's still she's still pie. I was at her stage or they just from day one she's been pine. We've always known it. His Pie. I'm terrible names here. I give you kids a solid name that they they want to go buy it, as opposed to come up with a crappy nickname. Did you were blessed with a good nickname. Deck is a solid that was given to me by my parents. Was it? It's solid. Yes, it's all. Never Beek, never been. The only people ever called me Donald Whar my teachers, and when they did I looked around. Oh yeah, that's me, Donny's no, that's why they came out here. I get Annie, know you get Donnie. That's why my parents came up with Deeke from Donald Kennedy. They came up with dee because my mom hated big Don Little Don or Donnie. She wanted know parts of any of it. So he came up with Deeke from Donald Kennedy. He slid. Thanks. Yeah, where where are you? When I was a kick drawing up in southwest and the s from the God God abused for that nickname. Really, okay, really, wow, I wouldn't think so. I'm sure think about I'm sure think about it. I'm sure you're abused for other reasons. Have all that's to us, but think about it. Should have worked on your Christopher walking and pressed earlier, because I knew it at the age of eight I was going to look like the Christopher walking or Rick Patina or rick. Yeah, who was? who was your couture sitting here? When we were in Martin's barbecue, there was a picture of them up on the wall that we swore it was. It was a Spitty of it to your dad. Remember, we were in born barbecue ordering the food bently. Maybe. Oh it look at alter the ordering. Yeah, when, Yeah, deek, like if we would be like yelled out. So it's those here. People would have run over to get all we did. You shut at so we didn't lunch, Dad. We didn't get to Martin's. We got to the peg leg porker, which was awesome. Yeah, well, that was in Westweat Nashville. We didn't get to we didn't get the Martin's. We got the fifty cent tour of all of Nashville on our way to it's. It's pretty hilly. We walked after the game. It was hilly. Yeah, after the game it was. It was. Did I said you guys after the game too? I don't know. We were pretty fired out. Toasted fist wasn't even been. You know that? That was the funny thing about that Nashville trip. Like the guys are with OAKS, my cousin. Oh my God, we lost. I'm like, we're Nashville Right, okay, yeah, it was just a brutal rock getter sitting in that heat. Yeah, right, I still can't believe we saw Jeff Lory. That lure far that. It is great. He didn't like that. It was tell it was all. And Guy that they were with, who is at a friendly was one of my parents friends. Oh, Guy, spitting image of a Jeff Loris I'm half in the bag and I walk in. I'm like, this is a lor what are you doing here? Oh boy, yeah, I imagine that would be a knight when there for yeah, we got a big, big GRENNA. got a whole very eagle fans to get a picture with, though. God's actually a sport about telling you wanted a looked, I mean, especially because he was wearing the sunglasses. Is Better sport than I am. It was spot on. It was so funny and then I saw him a company laughing afterward. He was like yeah, I saw him a couple times afterwards. It. Yeah, I was like, Yo'd you buy around the drinks for everybody at a want cheap beast to come on? Yeah, that that I'm sure you appreciated. Yeah, Idy, call me cheap asted. We did have one of those in our group too. Were you, therefore, when will say his name rhymes with deck. Wouldn't buy a round of drinks and hust'll bring that. That doesn't surprising. No, yeah, it was a good time. Nashville's a bland it was awesome. This guy was didn't make it to the...

...gay yeah, he came up the wrong side, I think twice. It's very possi yeah, you came up our side and said they don't the other way. We know. I just didn't know how to react to the people down there. I went and got donuts for everybody because I can't sleep anymore. So up but like er, thirty in the morning, I've no business being off, so I went to walk to Dunkin donuts and I eagle stuff. I know what passed. Puts tight and fans like Oh, how y'all, good luck today, and I'm like yourself, are you talking though? Like it's just odd. But there are Nice folks there and it was a great grip. Little did you know? It's thirty in the morning. Oh God, how was going to turn out? Yeah, well, DJ says, in eight years we can all go back. Yeah, yeah, because in four years they'll be here and then eight years we're back out there. So that they should fix the handicap, ramp it and you'll be in a real care put it around. I just want to stay at that crib that you were in. That was awesome. Ah, that was hook that up, that was movie material. That was ridiculous. You get that? Me? No, my buddies got a his boss owns a bunch of condos. So it's called the music loft and actually it had a like a music studio set up in the front. So, like Jesus, like Ray, many stay. Yeah, they had microphone, said Benny Bad yeah, mini grand drums. I mean it was awesome and it was cool, cool. Now I was beyond I mean a bad he just wanted to sleep in a lobby that were toil where in tolets was an actual throne. It was damn. I mean that's beyond cool. It was cool. Let's it. I'll get I'll give oaks props for that. That wasn't me be you know, yeah, Miami next year. Sure did. They got that crept down in Miami. So you can get in there being beer as sure. Let's we got. We can figure that out down there, just too. We will pull the resource we got. It's better when you pull the resources rather than going on what Quim, I don't want to knock the guy, rather than want to go going on one of those big trips where they stick you in like, you know, a quality in I mean even Miami, they're going to stick you like inland, I mean, and they're going to rip the benefits. We we can figure we got buffalo next year too. I've been buffalo. There's too fun town. But you're talking about I'm coming forty s who don't even I'm not jumping through tables. Oh Yeah, all right, stop forty two then too old. That's fairly new. That hope bills Mafia when we were there. Yeah, that was I mean that Chit You lown, and it was a couple years ago. All Gate our there is ridiculous. Your livingly parking and people's backyards. Once everybody has a video camera in their pocket, I think. And it's encouraged all of that and more. Yes, that's true. We got is the schedule out for next year or not? They who play? But who? Yeah, but not when. So, if it's in December, yeah, if it's early in the year, I I'm made a couple of friends. I would be interested. Got To talk to somebody first. But yeah, you have to finish this season first. Police. Yeah, let's F finish this season. Wait, it's not. I's done, but they're deep splice. Yeah, we didn't do the last rights. It's not. How would you like to be Washington Fan with that lace game in the soil and or in general? Yeah, seriously, you think what was me? It's for Philadelphia, long of them. Yeah, and we can argued at it. Sounds like Alex Smith may not play again. They said, yeah, have an all kind of infections with his leg and everything again, period. Yeah, yea, well, he started six years old. Yeah, it's bad. It's a really bad. Well, but here's the difference between Philadelphia and Washton. I've got a friend this redskins fan. They just want to Stanley Cup and that almost means nothing to most of their fan base. Wars, Oh wait, meant so much even as eagles fans. Eagles, I'm eagles first, but I wait fills. That kind of satisfied my sports soul for a while. Those guys. It's sets a weird sports town. They did. It's not the same. Yeah, so, you know, it's like the Florida teams. There's not a lot of there's not a hoody grown now. Yeah, no other names. The INDE DC fans are like Virginia Carolinas, you know, West Virginia, like they're scattered everywhere. Yeah, and they're more until like Virginia and Virginia Tech College Ball. Oh yeah, yeah, majority of my friends from Richmond are off Virginia Tech Guys. Yeah, man, they're going to Rott until they change the name of the team. And I'M NOT MR PC, but that's a pretty it's pretty egregious. Yeah, it's bad. It's as bad as it comes. What are owners? Are knucklehead anyway. So you can say Douche bag. I mean you're crop. Yeah, Bob earlier, you gonna you're gonna be nice to their that to Snyder. But all right, he's a douchebag. He's an effin douchebag. Welly, I don't want don't you know, because I never heard you say that. All right, we're coming up on time here. I'm not sure if we'll be here next week or now. We're still trying to figure that out with the holidays coming up. So let's I hope there's a win tomorrow. Don't see it happening. It'd be nice to finish off the season just have some fun at this point,...

...not expecting any playoffs, but let's believe in Satan. Nick Teller takes this season of miracles. Jimmy, it's the season of Miericle. It is. Sorry, four street. Now we're somewhere on the crown point road. All Right, thanks all of our fads. All of the listeners, have a happy holidays. If we don't catch up with you next week, boys, we're heading to creek water. If anybody we wants to meet, say, like I said, shots of POPs on me, creek rocks, brick rocks, Christick and what's Y'all are crookstead? Actually a thanks.

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