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Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode 31 · 3 years ago

Episode 54 ‘The Duffy’s Cut Project’

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The cartoon character of the rude, ignorant Philly Fan. This is a passionate fan base with knowledge to make your head spin, and this podcast is going to bring you the perspective of different generations of Eagle season ticket holders and fans when it comes to the Eagles, football, Philly sports and whatever else is on our minds. Remember, there's always two sides to every story. Did people ever stop and think? Maybe, just maybe, Santa Booed first? Thanks for listening, and don't forget, no one likes this. Good Morning. You're welcome to another episode of the same of her first podcast. This is your host, Jim Marcus. We got it. We got a fun show fee today, guys. I could tell already, but first let me introduce the producer. The starts tower, and here with me, Morne Taylor. I'm not important today. You're not worded. You're ready, ready to go. Yeah, let's go. I don't have my normal compadres it here, decon DJ. Those guys are off, but I got two characters in here. I could tell all righty from the DELPHI's cut project. Bill Watson, Matt Annesley. I've been Matt always. Your first you, guys, is the brains and the beauty. I don't know who's who. I'm coming. I'm assuming you. I don't want to make that jump. Wit. Which one of us this guys? What's one of us? Is Kirko being? You know? So I got to every me this morning. You guys throw up the SUFFI cut project. Will get into it. Some great stuff they're doing. I got introduced to these guys through all our gear boy, Jason Fog popsmarkaane's Irish whiskey. As always, our show powered by POPs and cheers. Guys, you got a little sid are more, doc you want a little. So I know you had a rough night last night. A little bit. Cheers, janitors, astily cross it's this is great for radio. By the way, I'm sipping mine. Yeah, I've I like to step as we go. My God, that would help you up. So I guess I'm gonna Start with you, Bill. Give us a little bit of your background and you are one of the founding brains behind this and sponsor the project. And so let's get into what the DOFFY's cut project is all about, some of the history behind it. Okay, sure, Jim Duffy's cut is a site that's twenty miles west of Philadelphia. It's in malvern and it's place where in one thousand eight thirty two, fifty seven Irish rail roaders died about six weeks after arriving of Colera and violence. And actually the ones we know of, you know we've excavated so far, we're murdered. Fear of cholera, justlike of Goop, of immigrants coming and take a local jobs, hatred of the Irish, hatred of Catholicism, all led to the circumstances where the first seven at least, maybe a lot more, we're murdered by locals. Time Andrew Jackson was president, long time ago so, but the Irish were beginning to come into the United States for industrial projects and it's like the tip of the iceberg. We obviously have fifty more scale is that we want to excavate at this site, but there are probably about Fifteenzero Irish dead up and down the East Coast and industrial sites, railroads and canal stretching from the Erie Canal in New York to the New Orleans Canal in Louisiana. And you know we're talking lots of people getting just ground under. You know, in the industrial revolution in this country and it's a story that really hasn't been in the textbooks. And so our goal. We started this thing sixteen years ago an effort close to Immaculada. My brother Frank had a railroad file and I had a peculiar ghost to yeah, you'd mentioned that we could. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was something that I saw my buddy Tom Conner, who actually lives in West aff for very close to where we are right now in the corn yeah, he's out on his meal route now. So, Tom, if you're listening, somehow we say hi. Anyway, he and I were Bagpiping at a GIG and Lancaster. We're talking about the year two thousand, and coming back from that Gig he had to make a stop and I said all right, we'll go to immaculad. I had the key to the faculty center. Went in around ten o'clock at night.

He's looking out the window and he says, Billy, what am I looking at? And I saw what he saw and it was three shining shapes in front of the Faculty Center and the shape of men and they were just standing there and I said, damn, I don't know what that is, but it maybe art, like at the Philadelphia Art Museum they have Neon Art. You don't know where the gift shop is and the Cafeterias and you turn right, you get down there you see these neon you know, bent in the shape of men, you know, neon lights. Anyway, I said, yeah, that's somebody's idea of lawn art, you know, because across the lawn there was the gym and that's where they used to have an art show to make a lot of back then there was an art show held there every year as yeah, I can imagine someone would pay for something like that. That had nothing to drake. He had some marine homebrew with this Gig marine gathering there and he said yeah, I don't know, but Elson they vanished and I said, ma'am, I don't know what could have caused that. You know, maybe the lights went out. We went outside, there was nothing there and no one knew we were there. It could have been a practical joke and if you did have a practical joke like that you would have had have Hollywood special effects to make it real. So no explanations will two years later of my brother's house and he had taken some railroad stuff. Our grandfather just trips and work for the Pennsymania railroad and had a lot of stuff. He eventually retired as director personnel. Started out by the ways of stonemason. He started from the bottom worked is okay, all the way up. First, yeah, generation immigrant over here, or he was himself for generation immigrant. You he was from Sicily. I'm Watson and donally and trips and TRIPSIANO. So he was from Sicily, okay, and ports of the poor when he was a kid, you know, but you know, did played the game. Changed his religion everything from Catholic Being Protestants to make it in the system. Can the assistant to the president of the Pennsylvania Ra Martin W Clement and s s when it was the biggest railroad in the world and and they had something in the railroad files there that my brother had gotten from our grandmother rare. We went out of business and the s after it merged with the New York central and the bigger ones. Yeah, and it was a disaster, you know. So they hold encyclopedia and so everything that the Pennsilman road has put up for auction actually have that auction book, except for the stuff my grandfather got out of the vault and one of those things was this railroad file on Duffy's cut. Okay, he had an interest in that, I guess you know, as himself being an immigrant, these immigrants from Ireland who come over here and died within six weeks of arriving and there were ghosts associated with the story. There's a folklore of ghosts out there in this area of malvern that's persisted from then till now, almost two hundred years. Yea. So my brother showed this file to me. I'd taken some stuff to him, to my brother and from my mother's house in case something happened to me. Should be preserved at a family remember. This is Oh, I've got this file here and the first thing I looked at one of my brother showed me to file. My brother's name is Frank Watson. He lives up in Tom's river. He's an arranger scheme. He also be here with this, but my eyes bumped out when I said, man, this is where I work. The cover of the file says between Malvern and Frasier, immacul lot of work. Yeah, I work out the Melbourne here or something familiar with the area. Now they can be want their work or driver out. Yeah, nate, but what was the was the definitely later on that that day had was like an all saints there. Well, yeah, it was. That was that to Dah. The two things I mean in the file. First of all, that there was where I worked in number two was that the guy in September one thousand eight hundred and thirty two saw something that looked exactly what Tom and I saw in September of two thousand and it was three ghost sleep. He called him fiery figures dancing under graves, and I thought was of wait a minute now, this is insane because it's the only thing that I had as an explanation and a couple of years you know, from when I had seen that whatever was that I saw in this file and I called Tom. The first thing I did was I called my buddy Tom and I said, my God men, I think I have an explanation of what we saw that started this whole thing. But Matt's referring to about the ember night. That's semester and two thousand. I got my buddy from Grad...

...school, John At as. I was actually telling at about about my late colleague he died during our explanations. He had an aneurism after we found the woman skeleton of the woman, another ghost. You know the story here, but John It was a specialist in church history and he said that that was an ember night in the old Catholic calendar when it was thought that people come out of purgatory to look for people to help them. Interesting. So the hair stood up on my neck and I when the story hit the local news out in Malvern area and the and the daily local you know that there was an a probable Irish mass grave in the neighborhood. Everybody came out of the woodwork, including people who lived in the nearest housing complex to the site that they had seen ghosts, and so there's a persistence of focal or folklore's is all about ghosts, you know, and Ireland it's a big part of the national folklore. You know that there are sites where people died of on time and untimely death's and some tragic circumstances. This fits this kind of narrative. All I know is that that was the match. My brother had the file. That was a match book without matches in it because he lived over a Jersey here didn't eat it. You know, he didn't know. He knew the geography that couldn't figure out, you know, anything without me first saying, oh, that's why I work. So we went out, me and and John Add test before class, after class, two classes, and then my brother and Tom and I on Columbus Day of two thousand and two thousand and two, excuse me, and we found the stone monument that was referred to in that railroad file and that was the beginning of this thing. So that was the marker for the mass grave. Is that? Yeah, roders put that up around eighteen seventy three where a wooden fence have been placed. You know, the Stone Monu was was replaced the wooden fence on nineteen and nine. Actually Warn't Klement did that. The Guy My grandfather worked her when I were living he was living in he was actually living in Immaculotta before Immaculatto was a college. is other because of this thing. Is All the small connections here. He was living as the assistant to supervisor of the railroad and Paoli on the side of Immaculott before maculotto was there. With the Donahue Family and George Donny Hue was wife, Bridget Doyle, was the sister of the guy who put up the wooden fence way back in by forty years after the event, and eighteen in eighteen, seventy three time for him. And so the story been passed out by railroaders that this whole crew had died there, which is out of sink if it was a collar epidemic, which is what that railroad file said, you know you don't. You never have a hundred percent casually. You know, it's like fifty percent casually's. So these guys, they all died. The railroad said they all died, you know, and in all the records, not just this file but other things we researched, that they all died. So we immediately had questions about what else was going on there. And it just so happens that where the site is located, back in one thousand eight hundred and thirty two was owned by the Pratt family and the Pratt family ran what was called the S Whiteland Horse Company. There's only like nine hundred people in East Whiteland township at that time. Almost none of them were, you know, Irish Catholics, you know. So these guys said they were coming in to a situation where, okay, if it's being a bunch of Passivis quakers, no problem. But the problems is a lot of Orange Irish living in the area at the time and the Pratt family was included in that category. We don't moved, for to Orange Irish is protration, like the supporters in the s to the n s of the UVF and UTA and in the RUC and stuff like that. And they're the guys in March through the Catholic neighborhoods banging the drum. Everage like twelve. So anyway, there's connections here and all these these circumstances with nativism where there's a hatred of the Catholic immigrants scooming in at this time. And I got a call in the office four and a half years ago from a guy who lives down a bromwain not that far from the site, who says that his ancestor was in the East Whiteland Horse Colin and he wanted to do something right because his ancestor done something wrong. He's an old guy, okay, and these Whiteland Horse Company descendants society still exists today. It's like the you know the dare you know, it's a hereditary, genealogical kind of thing. These guys are proud that their ancestors served in this Vigilante Organization which the Horse Company was. It was a vigilante cud of thing, okay, you know,...

...and we think of these set out West, you know, horse companies running down people who had stolen horses or any other offense that they might deem they go to the local judge, I get permission, they could lench somebody. You know. Well, the Orange Irish aspect of this is that this guy who called me his his grandfather was a last guy who ran an orange parid of philly. Are One thousand nine h hundred, and so there's this connection between the families. Are The prats and the hoops and the Handems, and I mean it goes on and on and on. He said they have a list of members record and have an incident report what happened the men a stuff he's cut which the Horse Company has a worse of complay. So okay, but he said we can open their records to us and we have a look at this stuff because, believe me, there's a lot of stuff that disappeared the only newspaper the help told. The whole story, which we know existed, has been pulled from the record. Doesn't exist anywhere in any archive, because we get we have a couple theories, yeah, of what exactly happened. What they have? They've got it. They got it and up they say they were they were afraid of collateral descendants of the Irishman showing them. So there's no way we you know, excuse me right now, we can get that stuff, but hopefully get some Ninja, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm here. Guys, Mats Family, we talked you to. We talking all day. You know. That's from from Clono, okay, in tron where we buried Catherine Burns, the one woman they killed. There was a woman who was a cooking a laundress and his and her daughter in law, one of the dead men at stuff. He's got and wanted to seven. She's one of the fifty seven. Yeah, if you guys, what was a year or two? If you guys won't over, I want to over see my family. Actually, they took a picture of me and I think I sent it to you. Yeah, so the pit in the grave and I was like Whoa, this is like like mind blowing. Now it's going on right now that I'm here doing this, like returning, because the whole point of this, as I mentioned you before, was it's to get everybody like, I don't know, not just closure, but like a proper burial, like and so they're not forgotten. Because basically what we had to fight for the sign, everything has been everything, and then you got its lange fly. Yeah, we had a change the sign because where the sign said they were, they just died a calera. We didn't have proof yet that they were murdered and then we found out they were wor then we found out they were murdered, like they would axe wombs and bullet wounds in their their heads, and it's like, Whoa, that's great, they just die from cholera. And it was more than so. The the site you're fighting it isn't just the railroad, railroad workers that. If you're saying there's a woman in there, I'm assuming she wasn't working on the railroad. She's a family member. She was a cooking a laundress. That was comic. Yeah, have people there. There were two women there. Actually, don't think me dead. Yeah, that we know their name and everything too is we know the front of Eira file when the ship came in. It brought these guys. Is One single ship. It's the John Stamp. Sealed out a dairy in April of eighteen thirty two and got to Philadelphia and June of eighteen thirty two. Took three months to get here at that time and because she went back home, Catherine and also the male we the eighteen year old male, we took back. We buried him and done a gal in our drea, the town of our Dra and the Holy Family Cemetery. Those guys went back to their home country to get buried. They're the only two names associated with bodies that we've excavated so far because, okay, peculiar characteristics the bodies like eighteen year old male, partly thirty year old female. It's only two people in the world as people. To me. They're buried in a field that didn't exist before eighteen thirty two and what it was buried in there after the railroad line opened up. So there's a narrow time from when these people could have been buried in the spot that we found him in. But they took him three hours to get back home. We we wanted a very bury. It's an academic projects. There's science involved, but we wanted the justice thing here. We got to find out what happened on and then only want to rebury the probably because it was like a trash heap that they were buried in at the time. Yeah, it's not even like there's all up and down the coach. You said there's like the potters field where it's just add on identified person. But Yep, there's aren't mess don't pay grounds, for lack of a better term. It sounds like what this is is they just put them all in the and it could be the the worst mass murder and history of Pennsylvania if they were all murdering. You know,...

...if we find them what we hopefully we will find them all and get the universe pensating. Museum's done all the anthropology on this. That okay, forensic apologies. It Janet Mons, professor of apology, and then her assistant. Now it's got PhD as well. Smith, the cocks ran the dig and so we had, you know, specialist that. We had a county corner, the DA's office, the Emerald Society, cops, state police, everybody you know, and now amtracks on our side. But every step is, Matt said, has been a battle. I mean getting that marker was about. We had to get a petition with thousands of signatures, get that in and you see what gets permission. You see what's it's granted every year and that, believe me, the Irish are like the number to ethnicity in a state of Pennsylvania by number. Delaware country were here and I are from it is I thought it was fitting well in forty five is maybe certain areas, but the overall counties it's the biggest ethnicity in the county of two thousand and twenty six point four percent. But the thing is that the that the Irish are I call this like the Olympics of the oppressed among my historians. Like everything, this one group gets more persecuted than another group. It's almost everybody is running on the table to trench a sleep first he has. But the Irish relate to come to that table. I mean the the the the Cromwellian. Unless you're in Ireland you know and you can see the issues with the trouble. So you know stuff before the troubles during Cromwell's time two hundred years before the cut. You know, twenty five percent of the Irish population died due to Cromwell, Oliver Cromwell, and in the family. Another twenty five percent goes to great hunger. That's fifty percent of the population of that country. Dude, outside do yeah, persecution and policies, and you know you're talking about recognition of this in textbooks and it's classrooms. We got any each finally and twenty eight. But that wouldn't that wasn't a famine. This is murder over here. Yeah, no, I mean the family. No, they stole their crops. Yeah, it wasn't a fat wish them to start if. Yeah, we're starvation. Sorry, I starvation. I mean it was the great hunger. You know, they were there force, you know, died of starving. Yeah, they would steal, series and neglect. And of course there's others fled, but so is this. Is this rail line still actively? You said? Amtracks involved? It's still the old railroad. Philadephia Columbia was the first railroad in Pennsylvania, and that's why this is also important. You know that it was the first and second rairoad in North America. With these guys died building and the most difficult mile, you know, turned it was the most expensive mile for the contract, and most deadly mile, you know, and and the drop kick Murphy's have a song called the hardest mile about Duffy's good. Okay, yeah, there's a lot of music, man. I could just see it even the car when yeah, I saw on your site then, mom. Want to get into how to support you guys in and what's out there. People want to continue. I know you have videos and see he's and books. You're going out the beer and that's kind of how how I got it. Jay Wiz, there was a promotion of the Duffy's cut beer doilstown brewery, a chef, Brian Duffy. Yeah, is that is he the he came up with the recipe for the brew Brian Duffy's rolling. This is is really interesting. First of all, the the the brewery. She came up with the idea. Was a two years ago, I think. Matt and I went up, my brother and Bobma callister and some of the other guys are involved in the in the endeavor. This is nice to tell your owney's. I'll grab but and so tellers on the job said I wanted to come out with an our five line of different beers, and so they had one they wanted to do for Duffy's cut and we were like okay, well, let's see how we can do this. And they said they were going to do this respectfully, and they absolutely have. It's fantastic. And Don Gimbal, it's really good. God connected with Joe Medesteine, who's the brewery guy. You know family's been in a brewery business sometime. Don GIMBAL was the cousin of the mayor of Ardra and the little town of Donegal. We were Barry John Reddy back in two thousand and thirteen and he happens to teach business law to maculoti. Came in my office said he got a big part of the interest, you know,...

...the brewery, and he says we're going to bring this out, I'm going to make your cans and I'm like, holy cow, this is the way of telling story. Each of these cans has the story on the back. This is beer with a heart. And have been people who said to US occasionally, Oh, you know, this is disrespectful. It's not disrespectful. We've had no guaranteed revenue stream into this project. So we've been paying out a pocket from most of this time. I'm telling you, it's been ridiculous. We've been rejected for more grants and you know, as to have almost all the Irish. My other point was even the molly, molly mcguires from fame of story. It's all the textbooks. Was a movie made on gunnery rich airs that I didn't get a historical market or two years after we got ours. How Now? How's that possible? You know, and the Irish there's there were no funded Irish archeology projects. When we were brought into Brinmar College by a couple of anthropologists there from Ireland, said how did you get funded? We we're funded. This self funded. They know of a dozen other cases. We told the ambassador about this, you know, the IRIC astor at the time. She look, somebody's got to do something about this, because every just been an Irish Catholic president. He was assassinated. Right, yeah, everybody talks about Bono. He happens to be Protestant. Whatever reason, Irishman emb he goes on, never lose. But there's still an underground below the surface this respect that is there the man didn't. Then we were told that Liam Neeson wrote a letter. Liam Neeson, yeah, had a big role, you know, getting am track. You wrote a letter of support for us to Amtrak, to Congress. Actually, the Friends of Ireland Committee through and and made this whole thing open up. This would have been in twenty thirteen. Thirteen. Yeah, but this brewery, okay, toastow brewery, came on the scene and said look, we're going to give you guys, portions of the proceeds of this beer. and Brian Duffy, it's interesting that he his brothers as to several connections. Chair. First of all, his brothers make TV shows, Tim and Mike Duffy. They have a coupley called ugly brother productions out in California. Then moved up Balkin, went out there and they're very successful. And they learned this story from their father, who got his PhD and education at a Maculata and told them the story and then they got on the idea of trying to you know, sell some idea making a show. Maybe. Okay, knock on wood, you know. Yeah, as we're actually find and stuff, I'm like everything else on history channel. Yeah, when not looking for him. Alliot's are big now a day. Yeah, that was searching for big foot. Yeah, so when Finn Four Seasons later? Yeah, and Brian Duffy is the celebrity chef. He's their brother. He's an older brother, and I saw him. I went to her, their father's funeral. He passed away a year ago so, and I saw Brian Duffy there and they were talking about him being a, you know, celebrity chef and I went my God, that's the guy when I was bagpipe. I'm a part time bag pepper. Breakin that he was a head chef at down. He's back in the day. When explain, don't? I walk through his kitchen. I remember him. You know, they were talking about him was being a up becoming chef. He's big, you know, Irish, making Irish cuisine throughout America popular, you know, and he's doing all kinds of stuff now, all kinds of probably I think he has his own podcast. Yes, yeah, so that led to him coming in on this. In my when my drummer it was best friends with his, his ex wife, and she was the one who reach outs him first. Alison Watson, no relation, just okay, it's just like she sent him a message and then and then I followed up with Tim Duffy and then he came in and hopefully that's going to put up a lot of doorstists. Yes, connected throughout the US has lots of ideas, you know, coming up with a recipe to use this in a cooking you know, and and it could get the beer national, which is which is what we want. We get a portion of the proceeds. Every case you get five dollars and forty dollars a keg, and that's over the years. We've had no reason, nothing. So we sell a few things off our website. You have an online store, Duffy's cut out IMMACUL lot of duty. You hats and tshirts and CDs and books and stuff. But there's no guarantee of a revenue stream because they're not interested. Nobody, I mean macul lot of would fund it if they had the money. But yeah, it's really small. College as a research fund and we get the nations here and...

...there and they're grateful for all. That helps the calls keep going. Yeah, so this maybe you know. This is this is amazing and and we're we're proud of the fact that the story is on here. You know the yeah, it was going to be rarely cool. Can they'll, they'll art on their shows the story he talking you got TV movie producers. It seems like it would make a great movie. I mean you see all the documentaries and stuff. They're on on Netflix even now. It's just people seem to be interested now in the real crime type stories and going through the history of this and you get a little bit of the ghost story mixed up there. Well, there is going to be a movie made. I mean there really there is. I'm not supposed saying much about it exactly. That's why I was yet in the work. It will be the free center that summer, but it's going to be filmed in Ireland rather than over here. Okay, but there are some there are some big names, you said. They want to be in it, which is really awesome. Hopefully there's we got already getting there. Yeah, we got some local actors that it, like old Jason fog here's well, I could use a little he could use a little great. I was just talking to him the other day about that. I was like, I don't know, how'd you get into that? And he sent me all this information. Is Like I'm taking classes coming up soon. I was like, probably could do that. I don't know. No, what they got face for radio is if it was that with you look good them. So you got you got the beer. That support. You have the website, that support. Is there ways that? It's obviously you've mentioned quite a few names, but it's more than just you guys and a few people. Yeah, are there any other ways like that? People can get involved with physical yeah, I mean when he helps animals. Of the dig was was our students. You know. immaculated took care of the digg insurance because the homeowners where we were working before they required insurance. So a lot of took care of that and immaculize got a museum with all the artifacts in it. But the the Emerald Society police helped us hugely. They made sure we got the marker, all the permits in place. You know all the permissions, you know, and they're cops of Irish extraction and Chester County counster still with us. He's one of the guys and one of my first male student actually, because immaculately want to Co ed when I started there. Or sandemyre is being on this from the beginning. He would be here too, but he's down in Delaware. So but he was there with us when we took the bodies back, you know, and he was the poll bearer Hu racle each case for Catherine Burns, though they also had three women each of the Catherine's and an earl, and he said German background. So he was wearing his kilt for the first time when over two thousand and fifteen. It was kind of interesting. He was in the back of the room. They had a week for Catherine Burns. My brother Tom Connor, Bob mccalistar and I were up front Bagpiping for the week and earls in the back. And speaking of orangement and stuff that there was a woman who came in there like a Kama Cozi. to St Patrickson, colonel and Matt knows, this is a very IRA a parish. Yeah, it's like twenty iray barrels. It's got bunkers right next to the like leget bunkers. I was like Whoa Cross, Arlis Lottom of the Celtic Cross and they the clono ambush was in their parking lot. Sees got these guys who shot up a police station, killed them in the Parkland's church, but the Hugh Coney's grave is in there anyways. This is a this is a nationalist church. Yeah, and this arms when we came in there like a Kama Cozi and started criticize and what we were doing during the wake to earl. You know, I didn't hear me because I was a friend with the with the pipes and everything. But Earl was like, oh man, she's crazy. She would, she would break the whole thing up. They would have killed their twenty years ago. Yeah, he would end up carried in the fen and add a cemetery to but you know, just shows that there's it feeds. It fits a nationalist narrative. And Shin Fain was trying to help us find grapes, you know. Pat Doherty, veryp big man, help us, you know, and he's come out to the cut and scene and everything, seen the museum and we've got a lot of support from a lot of people that are community in Philly. Vince Gallagher gave us his family grave is going to be found at the...

Common Barry Club. Is Great, dude. I love that guy. So John Reddy's buried with his vins. Gallagher's family and a stone there now and holy family cemetery in Ardro. That's the first big break we had. And then Catherine Burns came from Brian McCall, who's a friend of Vince Gallagher and the Torone society that meets up the Barry Club, and Brian McCall got Father Benny fee to give us the grave in the church where Matt's family is from. Okay, so you haven't been able to find relatives for L for John Ready. We have. For John Ready we have because he was he had was calling m oney genesis are frenzy. Dennis Matt Patterson found that and at Janet Mounds, the French canthropologiers found an article on how rare this is in the world's like I don't know one a hundred thousand people, okay, and aren't even hundred thousand people done a goal, but all the Ridi's and done a goal are missing their right top front molar too. So we got DNA from those guys and me trying to get the DNA get any analyze. That's the expensive part, crying up the old teeth and then use for the modern stuff. The miner stuff went bad. We didn't get a company to agree to do it for us, you know, lacking funds as we have, so we have to go back and get more of the modern stuff. The old DNA still in the teeth. But yeah, it's just a lot of people came together to make this thing happen me, and it wouldn't happen on out a whole team of people. Yeah, soundly, and all the Dick crew guys were the same age as the guys that were excret everything star, not even more to yeah. Well, I'm not now. Want to started. Yeah, how long have you be the bet you've been there since the beginning. Ten now, not since the beginning, almost ten years. Eight years. Yeah. Yeah, well, we got the man out from under the tree. Two Thousand and ten was I transferred in. So I yeah, I Trans Two thousand and ten train for to make a lot of yeah, got okay. Yeah, and then I was a history major. So, like I heard stories about him, like Solan told me he was a crew by the CIA. That one's kind of Hit's right. They're like weird. Like I was like, all right, I gotta meet this guy, and I finally I finally meet I was like guy, it's pretty cool and then like he had they he already had his like little knit group going on. That was already like there since the beginning. So I was like the new guy and they, oh my God, amazing. A little bit a little bit of hazing in there, and then that's when his arm was broken. Arm Position. So me was say, Hey, man, how about I broke my hand? I broke my hands under the cross game and I was just stuck like this and they just I was just getting roasted, like just like they were just light me up, like the guys would you know, like Oh, yeah, who smells Ben Right now? Like a great for my hand down, lesson just yourself. WHO's wiping fun? That's now. Who knows where that could go. But yeah, they's I had a broken hand and like that. I don't know what they always it's kind of like one of those things where, like you get haze a little bit and you're like, all right, cool guys, but then you get people were hazing you and you're like doing more work than them and you're yeah, you're like, dude, I got one arm and one got one arm right now and I'm like I'm doing stuff, like what are you doing? And he got there just heckling me as I'm swinging weight one arm. So is the date? Is a dig at constant dagger. You have certain it was times when you depend on the funding. Yeah, it was. I mean when we when we were from two thousand and four to two thousand and twelve, we were out there every Friday and then if we found scillons, we're out there often, and that you know we're out there too. We got him up, we got them there and from two thousand and twelve to now, I mean we were. We did core samples, we did some work glass October. You know, it'll happen again, but it's going to be under the stone monument. We got guys have told us some stuff that we have a good idea and we had a guy that I know, Jimmy Phillips, came out helped us out with clarifying something that we can't talk about yet, but clarifying like a theory that we had about where the bodies actually were.

So he came out with a big what is that? Was that back over? Yeah, are mover. Yeah, came out and clarify that. We had a we had a thought where more bodies might being. We found some things, but not really like nothing concrete. So we have another plan to that's like it's closer to the tracks. So we actually need a blueprint type or deal. My role. I know jode of void, who is another contractor, came in right towards the end of right before the barrels of West Law Hill, which we buried five bodies at West law whole cemetery at Belmont Avenue and there's enough room there for all the others if we can find the other fifty. Okay, a big vault. Jode boy came in at that time. He's from Ireland, self contractor and he he's the one who got us down a Capitol Hill to meet the Friends of Ireland Committee. He got the letter from Liam Neeson and he pushed this forward because we were grew ready to give up. You know that we had a GPR survey by our geologists. Him Back Tell Without Him we couldn't have find the bodies. Movie he did. He's looking for a stopping void down below where there's a skeleton and the collapses the bottom and leaves an uneven lay our soil above it, like a subdestroyer. Like a destroyer looking for a submarine with sonar okay, so signals go down and to come back and since that's a bottles and opening. So it worked. I mean it was unbelievable, but he got us an image under the Stone Monument in two thousand and eleven. We probably should have listened to him then and we would have just you know, but we thought they were more in a valley and so we worked in a valley. That was what we're doing last last for yeah, and we had to we had to kill it. We had to say, okay, is is there nothing left in the valley where the first seven were? The geologist theory is that the others were buried in the valley and in one thousand eight hundred and seventy time frame, Patrick Doyle's crew found those bodies since they were grubbing away the fill to make the where the railroad state, you know, in the base, the same place, but futt farther than the north on an earth and film set of an actual bridge. Okay, and it still goes over that today Amtrak and and you know, let the step the along ago that to yeah, it's that's right there. So we thought there must have been more bodies in the fill. But what we did was we found for sure they weren't any more bodies in the film. That's what we did act and that, though. So TIMBAC, that was right the under the stone monument. But Joe Voyd did a core sample down there in two thousand and fifteen and he hit what he thought was a stone shelf and we said, damn, what's it about the geography here? This is a huge stop. Avoid under the stone monument big, but it stretches out towards the tracks. We mean, I get them all, but the Amtrak guys told me this is Pierce curr. I bew guys who are very interested in helping us out. Pierces a legend in the Arsh community Philly. He was held by the British during the troubles and almost killed in captivity as an American. Was a big issue that he was released. You know, big diplomatic thing. The American was almost killed and British custody. So he's legendary. The AO H and you know all over there is great guy too, great guy. So he led the he spearheaded this. He took this on as his own cause and brought in a couple of really good guys. Denis Henry and Hugh Camble, other ibw guys, and they found information for us about the existence under that fill, twenty feet down below the stone monument, of a whole bunch of these blocks of stone. There were the original things and anchor the tracks in place, big blocks three hundred pounds agree in it. There's a bunch of them down and that's what Joe Devoi hit in two thousand and fifteen. But we didn't know they were put there for a purpose. They were put there to hide the other bodies to move there in eighteen seventy three. So yeah, we're going to get there, we're going to do it, but you know, the first thing is that we have a plan for this year. That's going to start eleven miles west of the cut in Downingtown at a place called Northwood Cemetery, where one of the guys in eighteen thirty two ran down the tracks when a quarantine was set up by the Horse Company. He infected a whole other Irish crew and they all died in downingtown. They were paired in what was a potter's field and what later became, forty years later, Northwood cemetery, because the property owners were the same. They signed documents with the state saying that they had to put up a fence. So we knew the names Boldwin Edge Lewis. They made. They made Northwood Cemetery, which exists today. So the North Cemetery people are interested in finding this potters field and the caretaker, UN Seland, knows that there's where the potters field there's just...

...above the caretaker's house. Our geologist went out there. Tim Back Ellis is this could be slamm dug. There's no issues with the terrain. We're going to do core samples. We're going to GPR course samples to get across there. Won't excavate them all but we will get bones up to prove their there and then we're going to come back to the cut. Okay, that's kind of funny. Fun and bones on a cemetery. Yeah, you got slam Dunkert here. Yeah, it's no bones in this cemetery, you know. Yeah, so you said you have spots for the other but is the intent to try to be be contact were relatives and you get as many back to Ireland as possible, they'll be beat'll be DNA. That would hopefully do that. What we're hoping for is a big company like ancestry, twenty three and me something like that. National Days it's just so expected. How much was that to see up? Yeah, it is. We don't have that money. Right. No, I don't. And I stable. When you say your thousand of stable, that's per boone, right, that's not like well, one body, or it would be one body, because they're just going to take the old DNA from a tooth. But they got to grind it up. Is a very complicated that's the expense there. The modern DNA wouldn't be that hard. You know, they just do it the way they do with every every person who sub missing in a for genetics. You know, and so, but they would, they would. We want to do is great family groups. Say This is we call them SK whatever. Only two people identified with bodies, John Ready, the eighteen year old, and Catherine Burns, the thirty year old woman, twenty nine years old. Exactly that. The others we won't know until there is a DNA family group set up where you can link out to these. We have names. That's all we have. The manifest right. Other. Yeah, so hopefully that you know that at to happen. I'm I can't tell you how I race am that it's been sixteen years. I want to be alive for this thing to be done. If I cannot help but think that it was almost any other things serious, this one would be done. It would be done. It is enough interest groups that would make it happen. And you're trying to mobilize the Irish. You get this done. Is is our goal. You know, means we everyone should be outraged that there's fifty people still left down. They're throwing away like garbage at the time and their families never heard. No one. I mean, how can this not be resolved? I mean to some mass gravee. It's an what's it been sixteen years now? Yeah, team, yeah, it's only hundred for them. Nobody in Ireland heard anything of the deaths of their an year old, twenty two year old son. Average Age was twenty two. It's outrageous. It's be on that rageous. And the fight to get that marker when you can see what everyone else was getting, multiple markers per year. And and the Irish you know this. It was I'm not going to go into too much for that, but I'm gonna stay. We a lot of right here and and we had to pull in some political muscle. And then, well, this dude wrote to the president and it might I'm going to say it, he said pisses me off. It still fisses me off that the guy had the audacity to say that it wasn't a political process to get a state historical marker. The whole ring as a blower process. It's patronage and you get one per you know, state, congressional, Senatorial area, and you know this was this happens. have been a mass grave. And I know at the time that my mother, when she was living in Arborth, talked about there was a historical marker of mapes because Burke Bell Sat at the counter, was talking football. Mean it's that. It's great. I mean, come on, man. And and it was about thousands of signatures. My reputation was on the line. Of all the people. Still was the one. Yeah, I would have been the one. I would have been one of lost this job. But it was an Irish Catholic sister of the HM order who got that letter and said she didn't see these words. But she said bullshit is it was. I'm dicourt. There's a all right, I could say that. Oh yeahs have been helping us all along the way. They paid the insurance for the day. You know, they hosted the historical marker dedication. It's the only historical marker in Pennsylvania ever blessed by a mon senior on senior burke from from nearby church. I don't undred thirty Philippine James. And then, you know, they had a fundraiser in a thousand and eleven and get money for the GPR survey for Tim Bactell. And there was a state senator named Andrew Dinnerman at the time when we got the marker. He was the first politician. He was a councilman for Chess County who signed our petition. He's a Jewish background. He thought it was outrageous. Was Jews have been through hell too. You don't trying to get recognition of that. And it's, you know, the age when you know there's more and more any sanitist was also any Catholicism...

...in some ways a cafe church. You know, didn't help that in recent events, but you know they've tried to own up for what they could. But the thing is that the Irish and other ethnicities came in here are tarred and branded with certain labels that aren't that aren't fair, you know, so that it is a much more complicated thing than I we were talking about this one way over the situation in Ireland there at each other's throats from the troubles, you know, but it's an easier thing to resolve. It's just one side versus others, two sides. Here there's everybody's clamoring for attention and and there's only so much air, there's only some oxygen that could be absorbed, you know. And and the Irish is, I say, came late to the table. None of those sites that I've identified between the Eurye Canal and New Orleans canal has been properly investigated. Where there's Irish mass graves building the infrastructure that made this country the superpower that it is. There's nothing in the textbooks. There's just like charts and diagrams saying, you know, this is when it was there's rail line was completed. Well, how about the dead we who built that thing? Because it was built on top of Irish graves, you know, in the West Coast's Chinese graves. Out here on the East Coast it's Irish Greaves and you know again, and when we got that, any AH, in two thousand and sixteen, I was almost had a heart attack because I call leave that. The US government recognized this thing. We tried two more times to get it and we were rejected because, again, there's only so much money going around. How did you get rejected? We got we got all they got off evails from everybody. The guy from the nage came up and saw it and witnessed it, observed this and it was great, and I know it was because the people who would take in this had taken other ones and they said this one was really good. They got to go out in the valley and day. I mean it was insane. They went down at the pen museum and Janetmas gave him skeletons to work on. She showed them the bones that we rotaine from the old guys, from Duffy Scott. We still have bones. showed him explain what they meant, especially the part of John Ruddy's jaw, and has proved the toothing, like what the hell, I mean? You know, but it's again it's a it's like you got a fight for recognition and what point do you not have to fight for recognition. Yea. When is there going to be another Irish Catholic president? Will there? Well, he get assassinated to you know I'm talking about. It's ridiculous. It's everything you guys have been doing, and I mean you say the word mass craven, you're thinking, why, why do we not have people would help us with this right and it's a shame. And I'll share everything you guys have out there. I'm not the social media all that, and that anybody listening. You know. Coach, I out the website, get the movies, read the books. It's a staying there. I'm I'm out there. Like he said, I work out their Melbourne for a lot of people I work with their are from that area too, and one woman in particular, whose name is duff him, surprisedly, hasn't logged in here to watch today. I'm going to. I'm going to talk to her a little bit about it. And Yeah, comes a museum, because we have artifacts. We have the oldest example of Irish nationalism in North America, an Irish pipe stamp, a pipe pole she has met has aaringo Rop flag and it says flag of Ireland around it with shamrocks and on the back is a round tower. We've until that's the oldest example of Irish nationalism in North America. We got it right there, right at the cut, and it's in our museum. People should see this stuff. People are interested in the history of the Irish and in history of the railroad history that just our state. Yeah, and local history. It's it's yeah, there's a lot here. Yeah, yeah, we gotta go about fifteen minutes like fitzemus to kill. This is a sports show. Like, what the Hell's going on now? This is great, this is beer and whiskey. They're talking about our heritage. I do want to stay on the Irish heritage theme and ask you, guys, who do you think is the greatest Irish or Irish American athlete set of all time? I'm all all right, and we're a little younger. Ye'll, may be our are met Jack is a great man. Yeah, yeah, boxer. He was wearing twenties. was...

...partly about him. You got one, man, I'm thinking, I don't think I got one. No, no, wait for Connor McGregor. Yeah, I seemed like a UFC more Um. What's this? James braddockt okay, Hey, I'll think him out. I don't know. Some reason I just came to that. Came to mine round. I don't know why. Dramatic movie. It was good, well played by Russell Crowe good, good flick. I'm joanah blank. I had a couple of these beers, or I mean Gregor. We were. You know, Joemy key is has at Martin McGee in prospect park a beautiful mural with Duffy's cut on it, because I got a Belfast and dairy. You know, he's been a big supporter of ours there. We made it. We made a film with him. We need a film with him with Shawn swords and that's ever. So yeah, it's called the cut, the journey of the men and women of Duffy's cut. And so I get killed. Me It twice, Joe. We've had a we hope to have another event. Twice. Yeah, twice, I get shot and then I get a real I got a real axe swung at my head and act got killed on two occasions. Yeah, on two occasions. My eye has the same character. Yeah, so it's so my so it's to the two different scene. So the one scene is I get shot and then terrill acting, though that's a film terrible acting. I get shot and it's like bad acting. I try to do the brave heart thing where you are not brave heart thing that the Patriot where he falls is. It was just awful. But then I get my body, my body, because we needed some like extras, because there's like kind of like grain acting type thing, and it was all the did guys. It was really we got to play Duffy's cut crew in the valley. It was amazing. Right there that you have to be a little my spirit, because it was it a little eerie, like real, a little little bit. That felt good at it. Okay, we felt like haminous. My Body. My Buddy, one of our guys, Joe Connie, had a real axe on them cut down tree to say. I was watching him cut down the street and they're like listen, when do you guys got to take an axe to the head? I was like what? I was like it, that's man. The director, Director Sean Sorte, just like yeah, like me hits you, he hits you. It's it's cool, man, don't worry about so he did my body. My Body use my buddy Jim Hagen, is Oh my God, he's scared shitless. He's like he's like all right, they're like go and he's swinging a real like I'm on my knees, like ready about to take an axe to the head, like in like get up, and so then he gets this close to my head and just turns the axe of the last the last second. Get a good job and they're like the killer. It was like a little it was like I got cut more takes in here. I'm like, what the Hell? So he's still doing it and I'm like I'm not even looking, like I don't even want to look at this. Like on film it looks good because they cut away right when he's like getting really close, but he's like he's getting really close to my head and would turn it and he turns to act out. So he's like swinging like if you watch you like Mat's a dumb ass. This isn't my contract. Yeah, paid enough for this. I got a nice I got nice steak meal after that. But yeah, that's if you watch it, you like, Oh my God, Matt, What Are you doing? But it's that was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun making that. It's sold a lot to him. People will like I get interviewed in and like, I don't know how you are with this, but I get selfconscious, like I don't even like hear my own voice. I think it's weird. Like right now, if, like, I saw this bing, like, dude, I'm eating, you can't worry about yet. Used to me it really yeah, get my get my confidence back up there, you know, Nice. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, no, that's not that's you can watch it. Don't want. I'M NOT gonna watch it. Way. Yeah, yeah, I'll put it on the list. I put it a list. Next up to watch. But Um, Oh man, what do you think about this Bryce Harper thing? All Right now, ud you guys like, no, we've talked over lake. Me Up.

When happens, I have a harper exhaustion. Are All right, then, that's not it. It's you leave it. I love to see him here, but it's just they've been stringing everybody along. Now you hit the report last night that Middleton, the owners plane, is out there in Vegas. Who? What does that mean? Maybe he was just maybe got a few extra bucks in fully had a hot hand. He was gonna go play a tables. That doesn't mean but I don't know. It's you think. I don't think he might be worth the money, though. Three hundred mill I m his last season probably wasn't worth three. Now now we're here in like three hundred and forty. Yeah, I don't know that. There's last season gets in that pay, but he's the number one free agent. Well, I phillies need something to start bringing people back. You gotta have enough exactly like that, or we gotta wait another year and pick up a hundred percent. I think trout's coming here. I think some of the conversation wee I just bring up like no, no, it's just not go for my infert right now. Look at his face. He's like what is this dude doing right now? We there's there's ongoing scenes in some of our shows in the sports topics. We talked about heart Chad, Heart Chattel. I've been saying. Now that Madni he's been signed, I guess I can't say hard chattel. I just got to stick with Harper. Now Mike Trout, one of our other guys on the show Dj. He swears that trouts coming here. Oh, he's I did. Here's a Philly guy. You seem at the Eagles Games. He's always in the area. He's good press with Westart. To Leave La, I think, to come out here and I don't know. I think people are more genuine out here. You'VE BEEN OUT TO LA? I don't people wise. Yeah, I agree with you. I've never been out there, but now I have no desire to leave Philly. Philly boy, born in Philly, level Philly. I I'm good with that. But I just think what he has access to out there day. I mean you can, you could play ball pretty much year round out there if you need to. It's tough to do it out here. Not that he can't fly back and forth or flying flywood my sure environment when the season's over. Yeah, well, that's what most of the guys did. Were like, I get what you're saying. Like the funniest thing I saw was gritty, Gritty road all a message to heart heart from great. He's like only been alive for six months but like people are like, what the Hell is this? And then they started loving me and I was like this dude's awesome. I love this crap. I'm just see when and he takes the piece of from New York was my younger kids. You know, that to me. That is that's that's awesome. That's good. He's it's kind of a shame that he's like the biggest story of the flyers. Lady's Carter Heart can play him well. He got the stadium series tonight, which hopefully the weather holds up, it doesn't rain, they can play tonight, but they've been having a rough season. Yeah, there's there. You know, they need a time of anchor players. I mean I remember one. I'm older than you guys. I remember when Flyers won the Cup, you know, the seventy M and I used to play hockey when I was a kid. Don Celeskian hockey camp. Did that couple times. So when I when the pros feet police, you know they need players. I mean there's, there's my God, they had Clark the ad bar. Where the Leach, you know, for they can comment. There's nobody likes you. There hasn't been for twenty years. It's not that it's not hard, man, there's no like I say it all the time, my body's bust my choss about so bad. There's no heart like you got it the play for any Phild all you got to have some heart like you get these guys are. They're playing for us, to play for they played for this instead of playing for this, and it's like, dude, this is why people hate you. Can I tell you that I think that works in baseball? That doesn't. I mean, it worked in you know, when it Phillies, you know, came really close. was in like early night in one thousand nine hundred and ninety, the magic three season. He three it. That worked in baseball, but I don't think I could work in hockey. I don't. I think I'm gonna have I think it's because I've seen, I'm watched like. I haven't been watching many like this is why I was like all my co I gotta watching his hand before I come on here and like get my get my bullshitting out of the way. But a lot of time I see the flyers. They hang there, they hang the goalie out the drive and everyone's bitching about how the goalie socks is like yeah, it wants a shooting gallery. The...

...goalie socks like it's like when you see him in practice and it just straight shooting at the goalie like they nobody drops back on defense. They all just go oh, my buddy will get it it's like Nah, man, you gotta drop back on d like just because you get paid for being a score doesn't mean you don't play defense. You know, there's another thing with the with the flyers to there's too much passing. I mean I don't know. I mean you got to pass, you gotta get the right guy in the right place the right time, but I don't know what the purpose of that is is. I show they're part of a team and maybe they're going too far with that team working. Somebody's got to shoot the damn thing at the net, like remember when, whether somebody chips it in or whatever. The hell, where's you gossip are come at? When he first came on he was just snipe. What happened him? Like you just said, that new coach had a new system. That just threw him off. I they need to have an identity. The team doesn't have an identity. You have some older players. He do have some anchors, like drew were getting him in there. But I think you got to turn this team over and it's just you have some younger guys coming up and it's starting to do it, but they just until they figure out what play a team they want to be there there. You know, God blessed Snyder. He was great for this team, but he had the mentell you the bullies, which doesn't work in this league. At I kept think they got a kind of telling that he's crazy with the Bagpipe. So I was in his house on two occasions because it's night. Wife was yeah, it was was Scottish, you know, in laws were down. So I they hired me to go over and play for him and I didn't see it. I mean I thought I would see all kinds of flyers, membor really it, but it was all business thing. You know, there's nothing in his main floor of his house that showed that he, you know, really got. You know what the fans were there for. I mean there should be a mini Stanley Cup. I'm speaking bad at the man, but like you need a hockey guy. Yeah, I said, I said we from got Yager. I said she still lead. Yeah, I think he's hurt. Had these playing? No, I don't think he's in the league. I think he's playing overseas or something like that. But got when he was on there. All Right, granted, the guy couldn't, can't sky anymore, but when he said, Hey, go do this they did that like that. I think that's what the they're probably just lacking some type of I don't know, not really leadership, but just like like if some some movie star walked in here right now, it is like the best, like whatever, and he was like Hey, guys, do this, we'd be like, Oh God, we're going to do that, we'll do exactly God just said. We're in like I don't know, step my farm walked in, which is okay, you guys probably do some funny like Oh, let's try some funny voices, but like, I don't know, it's like when you have that grand that that grand like what is it like? That's still like that star truck like that at that vet, that veteran mentality. That's all I'm looking for. Like they want to the playoffs with him on the ice and he was what forty, forty two the flags on the police more often, you know, consistently, than any of the other four teams, I mean if they've been a contender. But I think, I mean this is this is obvious. There's too many teams. I mean back when I was a kid and you know, there's only so many teams, just veggas teams bullshit. Talent is a spread out so far. I mean, you know, I don't think you're going to get a dynasty. With the situation being what it is. I don't think there's going to be another dyynasty ever. Yeah, I think these sports, I think maybe basketball and football are really the only sports we can get like a true dynasty. Baseball starting to get away from that. Yeah, but it's tough to with free agency nowadays. It's tough to just keep a team together that long too. Yeah, you know. And speaking of dynasties, we got one of the greatest dynasties owners. I know where this is gonna who is who is in the news five minutes to talk about bobby craft. Couldn't happen to a nicer person. That's means. But what is it? Tom Bree's a cross dresser. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Irish are, but it was like seeing is to the guy seventy seven and it's amazing that he's still I something. I thought the same power don't yeah, but it's gotta be money. That's so, is it? Is it the thrill of just being the average Joe, at doing something the average Joe and that that little...

...bit of danger to it of getting caught because he's got more money than got him. Sure, he can do whatever he wants, whatever. I think that's who he wanted. It will be kept quiet. That's his mentality, though. His mentality is I can do whatever to how I want and get away with it. Like psychologies just to it's just not understandable. They cosby for years. Geez, this is that mentality. I got so much money, can do it how they want. Yeah, I mean it's a pronoun. I mean the I know exactly to bring off. And you know he's doing his stuff, you know, in a public venue where he where he risked it and got, you know, trouble. A millionaire, you know, can create his own little world. Yes, probably not understandable. If I put charge against our Kelly, like, come on, see, it's nuts, you know, really is. He's Day was eighty eighty dollars an hour. He Wow, that guy bleak city. They make more than that. Why does he need to? That was my thought. It's and now they're saying there's bigger names than him that were involved. So I'm waiting to see the list of names and wait and see the list of Domon. He common people out left and right and say the hell are you guys? You know, you know they're losing a tax attacks pair because it's weird, because they're going after because he's rich, you know, because of means, Joe Schmos, you know, all over the place, and that's it should happens. Stuff happens. That not and you know, not they. I want to know how they found out. That's what I want to know. Video, like the Patriots, I think it's what they wait. They so they there's video. So there's he's come at in the act. Deny it there twice. Clean me. I don't want to see that video in the act like they it's not released, obviously, but that's what they're saying, man, that's real. Yeah, you look and he's denied it. Okay, so it's a mister baby, he's giver. It's a miss the meaning for soliciting prostitution down there. So who'll get off from the state at perspective and legal perspective. But now you got to go to the NFL and him and Goodell have already buttet heads on many things. They got the flake gate behind him and spygate behind him and the fleet. So well, let you see if Goodell's. Really they've always been at each other. It'll be interesting to see we get. Hell does them. He's own right. People just suspending you owner do nothing. You need to take alight draft picks. You need to. I don't know what he's gonna do with that. Fine, is the team. It doesn't points. It's out of that. That's an I forget team. People forget about Big Ben what he did. The people just swept that under the rug. Some people for you. Yeah, we don't forget him. Yeah, bet it here too, but nobody. Like people forget like this, due just got a hands out. That dude freaked the girl. Like, yeah, like Jesus Christ, who gives a Shit proportionalities? Hey, yea, yeah, like, how do you forget that stuff with like Oh, this guy, because he's part of I don't like the Patriots. I don't like them at all. But Um my, well, my buddies, his younger brother plays an NFL and he like he got to hang out like tomber. He's like the nicest guy ever, I'm sure. Yeah, like he's like he's just hate them when he's on the field. Yeah, like, I wouldn't like to either. Day, like, but snows one of the top Irish athlete of all time. We got to put them in. Yeah, you gotta put them up all time. Now I'm like not red to use every don't look at me like that. I'll give you more names that. I give you more names. Patrick Harrington car he's play well, he's won a couple finals, a couple opens. Jimmy conners, John Maggar row. Yeah, you mentioned dense. Mark McGuire. I didn't know he was Irish mark and the red beer. I thought he was something else. He was like the Irish fiking. All right, and then easiest going to pick kedy shamrock. It really named Kilpatrick and kill Patrick, but he's, I think, Clark Fields Wrestler. Bobby Clark's got to be an Irish name and Clark with the e, you know. Yeah, he's got cups. Yeah, probably put them up there is yeah, interesting, especially since we're out of Philly. Yeah, I wish probably know more of...

...this, but I got nothing. That's all I got. That shit more I just got. Jim Corbett was one God. John I'll Sullivan God, the first guy who went from baron knuckle to gloved boxing, chant first champion in both scenarios. You know, and the first gloved every way. She who's up? My brother's named after his fucking hockey player, like Tavish, Frank mcdavis. Yeah, freaking my brother, my little I don't know where that came from. My younger brother's no name is mctavish. So really, yeah, yeah, it says, is that mean you're actually Scottish? I don't know, David, I don't know. They say I was Scottish and I'm not. His name is mixed. She my last my realize things. Mixed dravog. Like I have matthew hands on there for like because I was trying to get back to teaching and stuff. But so, yeah, that's going to work out well now. But uh, yeah, mixed dravog. And they were they were telling I was like what are you? Like Russian or like well, sure, like, I'm like Nah, I'm I'm hunter. I'm hundred percent ours, like what are you guys getting that? Here's yeah, I did it, dude, twenty three Mei I'm ninety seven, ninety ninety seven point five, sent arch, and the others like French and German. My mom just did it. Well, I don't know if she got the results or not yet, but well, she's. So my mom's side, folly's. My Dad says mclaughlins. My Dad's father's Marcus, but we have a Glocklins, we have FOLLI's. So we know there's some milers in there. Like you, thinking Irish and German, but do what you doing yourself? A mix of because Marcus is an old British title. MMM, so there's a lot of mixture there. I mean we're watching and donny on my father's side, so my grandmother's Jeane Donley need after a great grandmother came from Ireland. Okay, like the and and you know, I'm twenty five or four things, but the Irish is the thing that drawn men. Bagpiping is Irish and Scottish. You know, mad is almost like a under all the did guys, whether whatever their ethnicity is, they feel they can associate with somehow. Yeah, with the dead guys out there. Hey, because I did what they also told me. Like what? We were the same. Oh, yeah, we got it. We got a common answer. Nile Nile, the nine hostages. Yeah, every down royalty and oursh royalty. Right, there you go. You're talking to a king would come free of the high kings. Perfect way to close it out here. Thank you again, but watching Matt, you figure out what last name you want to use. It. It is mixed drab og school may already's build it. Yeah, thanks everybody for tuned it into another episode of Sa Bouot furst pocket. This was fun. Guys, make sure you check out the Duffy cut project online. I'll share it. Throw all of our social media, check out some books, some DVDs and just see what these guys are up there. I'm going to keep keep tabs on you boys and see this will happy and again. God. All right, this is fun. Yeah, next time we won't be hung over. Thanks.

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