Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode 16 · 3 years ago

Extended Version: Piss & Vinegar, Loyalty, and Pickle Pizza

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Episode 69 - "Noice!" The guys let out a little steam after the Dallas loss. Frustration over loyalty. A discussion of pickle-related foods. Sixers wagers, and Phils. We go long on this one. "That's embarrassing" - Andrew Martin

We from. We are back another episode of the saying the BOOT first podcast. Thanks for tuning in from the lovely Yellow Jacket Media Network Studios and fine will it grove. This is your co host, Jim Marcus. Have along with me, deeck Morton. Good evening, Deek. So I'm morning. Good evening, Hellodore James Andrew Martin taking a place at Dj this week. Behind a glaze. We got stevie. I was gonna clee Stevie be on the wheels of steel. We'll go to Steve Library. I'll rock either one. You rock either one. I were either one of those hats for the crack bell crew and the line Lema project, Lima project like liebrand by a letty Lima. It's easily get buy a letty out there in his library. I don't know what, because you're a jerk. I don't know. Probably good enough. Reasonably, I mean good enough reason. We're here in a Thursday night after a rough weekend. But let me before I forget our sponsors, the Maloney Agency, MGM Agency, Matt Maloney Insure, Phillycom up to ten quotes and about ten minutes. We got your covered and also powered by POPs pospikain's Irish whiskey, Jay fog, owner, proprietor, Marymaker, all that good stuff. You're finally getting that down. I'm trying. I'm working without a script. No, lest it getting better now. We've only been doing this for a three years. Yeah, only so I'm getting better at it. All Right, Dallas Week a lot of PISS and vinegar. I'm saying that right now, even though it's still Thursday. It's still Thursday, it's only it's Thursday. Yeah, we're four day, four days away. Yes, got some things to say about that. Also a theme I think I want for today and you. We also have some beers in the room. First, those watching on the stream live, actually, not sure if they're showing up, but here's two yards for tonight's sponsor, yards brewie. Yep, loyal logger, talk a little bit about loyalty, loyalty from your teammates, loyalty to your team. Is that why you brought these in for? It is a good beer and I just happen to grab and I thought, you know, what this white work could feel show too. Yeah, there's there's a lot to unpack. I don't even know if I really want to talk about the game too much, but don't let me hold you guys back. They I liked dogs idea of let's let's take the ball. I think they said that's the first time he decided to take the ball after winning the queen toll since two thousand and sixteen. Let's march down, let's score, let's set the tempo the way we want to set it. That obviously didn't work out. Dales fumble went fumble didn't didn't challenge. Pretty Clear Pass interference to me. I need to say something about one of those touchdowns and I can't remember. I can't remember if it was the first or second touchdown, but there was holding on our play down, feeling no on our receiver down field. Yeah, for I want to say five yards. That defend their held. Was it Altshan or Agular? For you wood, it was Aushan. He was held for five yards. I mean it was plain as day. I put that touchdown that they scored on the ref who did not make that call, because that should have been for, you know, holding his five yards, but it's an automatic first. Yeah, and I mean not to say it would have happened, wouldn't have happened. Anyway, but it definitely would have, you know, maybe could have turned the game around a little bit. Yeah, and that pissed me off when they didn't call that. It was so obvious. It's it wasn't where he just clutched them and let go. It was a five yard hold. We we it was through the weird yes, we got everybody does. They text games. And I think Dj said I would have been a holding. I you, impeding the receiver's ability to catch the ball. Yes, isn't that the definition of passing or fair and correct? Isn't what they're looking yea, yeah, and that's what it was. Well, I just what else do we talk about there? Why is Malcolm Jenkins the first line to defense that try to take down Ezekiel Elliott up the middle, right, like we got these big bullies that should at least be chipping him a little. HMM. And Jake it's...

...goes low, Zeko's over them, touchdown up. Goes to show the lack of the lack of interested having linebackers that this team has continued us to show, and it goes all the way back to Andy Reid. They just don't value that position. They should not. Here many times they do not, and it's starting to show. MMM, because they have garbage at the I shouldn't say garbage, they have one man's yess. Yeah, they don't have very productive output from the linebacker position and it, like you said, it's really starting to show. You know, it's week in and week out where we don't get linebacker play. You know, they're not covering tight ends whatever because you don't want to waste the D back on a tight end and you're really shouldn't because they're smaller. But I mean it's just in everything's just blowing up in our faces right now. The seat. I had so much expectation going into this season. I you know, I was scouting out a spot on broad street almost. That's what I expected this from this season. I really did. I mean they were loaded on offense and they had all kind of weapons that run in for Carson. One guy goes the Parson and everything blows up. The defense, I didn't have as much faith in the defense. I I really thought the defensive line was going to be, you know, a punishing defensive line, with the rotation, the talent that they picked up. I really thought the defensive line was going to be a solid defensive line. It was a little leary about the dbacks. I was okay with the linebackers as long as we had to to, but they can't stay healthy and it just it. I figured the defensive line getting into the quarterback would cover up the deficiencies in the Backfield, but it just hasn't. None of it is worked out, none of it from top, even from dog dogs making play play calls that just don't make any sense. And the whole season outside of that Green Bay game has just been a big WTF and it's just it's mindboggling to me that losing one player on offense destroys everything on offense that they're trying to do and the defense is just been as pitiful it has, I said, has been. I don't must make the argumented losing one player on defense has done the same thing, I think, and I was really excited with Lee Jackson coming in. Yeah, I agree, thinking that line should be reeking havoc on offensive lines and quarterbacks. MMM. And therefore, who cares what our secondary does, because they're not going to need to sit back there for five, seven, right, ten seconds and cover guy because hopefully one of our blindman is not going to quarterback on his ass deflecting a pass, doing something they haven't done it. Fletcher's got his first sack of the season. First, secondly season. And it was a meaningless point in the game. Yeah, it was. It was not not a good night. No plan and I in here last week. We both thought that they were lose. We thought it would be a closer game, but we thought that they would lose. May you look at the NFC east. You expect to split with the top teams. Right, we should take the second game from Washington, no problem. The giants will see. For some reason every other year it seems like there's an odd bounce where. But I would still expect at a minimum a split with the giants as well. If not, but Dallas, it's almost given. You write them games off them. So, yeah, we have them coming back in December. We're only one game down, right. It's one thost we're three and four there, four and three. But I get it. Doug rand his mouth. Maybe Doug didn't run his mouth. Doug made a statement that you would expect he coach to make. That's a better I exploded. He probably should said I expect my team to go and win rather than we're going to go down there and win. And then the marcus lawns. He comes back and he starts to making his comments in what do you know, he gets his first sack against the eagles, which happens also a strange play or fumble, yet huge play. So this is where I start to get into the loyalty pieces of this whole one of the things that really irks me while watching these games, and I should probably stay off social media, is when you start seeing the comments the all the sixers are right around the corner, so and so. INSERT INSERT X Eagle player name here. Want to look much better there. Would it look nice to have him right now? What't like? Jordan Nicks. I don't know why everybody loves Jordan Nicks. He's leading the league. I think it tackles. Yeah, because Arizona sucks right and he's got to make a lot of tackles. He got, I think he got his first interception of the sea like look I like when wearing it's he's here. Wait till he gets hurt. He's not the reason this team's failing. No, that in...

Neis the held. I think maybe not necessarily. X Player would look good here. But I think when people start teasing about, you know, can't wait for the sixers a start, or, you know, how about that Flyer whatever, I think that's more tongue in cheeked and I get I hear, but you know, folds would tolls would be seven in o right. Yeah, while trade wins, trade art to trade every bad like that. That has to stop. I mean the guys not coming back. No, not this. You got to get over right. Yeah, you gotta get over you gotta move on. And would he really be better with this team? Be Better with with fulls here right now? I don't know, because Carson's not getting a whole lot of time. You know, he's getting rushed back there, he's getting flushed out at a pocket. He's making a lot of throws on the run and you know, at least he's mobile to get away from it. Nick is not. So I don't know, but nick tends to get the rid of the ball little quicker too, and I'm not giving Carson to pass. No, nobody on this. No, you can't know. Nobody's worth a pass. Yeah, it's cold. They should be embarrassed. No, actually, they Hallie on down. They should all be embarrassed to what they did last week. HMM. But this whole like people just jumping off the band wagons quick. I thought you were going somewhere else with the loyalty thing. Well, there's more to it. Okay, there's more. Phase one. This is just I mean they're yeah, they're. So there's the fan loyalty and we've had players in this city make comments about us being a bandwagon town. Jimmy Rowlins did. And did one of the sixers make a comment last season? Two? Yeah, I think Ben didn't. Been The ben's, I thought, but been said something I forget. But it's just the it's like we enjoy misery. Oh yeah, right, like a your forty. I know, I know what I'm at. I'm trying to get US least in our own misery and want to get us past that. Like we can't continue to say we're the best team because we want super bowl. I get them, though. It can't be, you know, our green shaded glasses. Everything in eagles world is perfect, but people are so quick to trade wins. Fire Peterson. Now loyalty mic grow. Maybe they're. That's something where the loyalty can be good and little tee can be bad. Yes, yes, loyalty to to certain players that are maybe beyond their most productive years tends to be bad and we're seeing that play out on both sides of our line right now. I think. Yeah, and I to your point about Mike Grow I think this team, Mrs Frank Reich, more than they will ever admit, we've been behind, save for the jets game. We've been behind the start every game. Big Double digits against washing we should have lost that game. Against Washington, you're down seventeen nothing. You should not win that game. But it was against Washington. Green Bay down ten nothing at Lambo on a short week. We should not win that game. I don't know how we won that game, but we did. You know, and every game other than the jets we've been behind double digits. That is that is the definition of hulking a tight wrote without a safety net on. thenew few you. You just can't play that way in the NFL. It's not you know, you're not Alabama against some startup teams from the WHO's playing their bowl game in week three, because it's Alabama, you know, and you're just going to you're going to win the game because you're Alabama. This is the NFL. Everybody's being paid to play. These are the best players in the world at what they do. You know you can't play like this week after week at the week and it's really starting to grind on the team. It's starting to grind on the fan base and I'm sure it's grinded on the on the coaches, when they sit there and look at film every week and say what them, we got to stop doing this, and that's where I think they really miss a guy like Frank Reich. John D Philippo, I don't know how much input he has into a game playing. You know, was Carson a better quarterback on their him? You can make that argument. I think seventeen was a great year for Carson. He hasn't been the same since. But he was injured last year, you know, he had those two major injury coming back from one and in the back injury this year so far, hmm he you know, he's played. Okay, he hasn't played. Yeah, right, I'd say okay is yeah right, yeah, he's in my opinion he's had his two worst healthy games so far in his career, one against the jets and one against the cowboys. Yeah, it's just he's been not that good this year and you know, save for what the hell was our quarterbacks named? Luke Falk, the...

...jets quarterback? Yeah, yes, save for Luke Falk, we might lose that game two if we had donal it, you know, going up against him. I'm not saying that we would have, but it was a mean beat the devil, and I only say that because they beat the cowboys exactly. So you know this team is. I think they're not in good shape right now. I think they have a serious crisis and confidence and self confidence in the team, confidence and you know they're searching for that and a lot of what goes into playing professional sports or any sport at a high level is confidence in yourself and confidence in your teammates. You know, that's how these got yes, they had that inner competitive fire and they had the town. Of course they had the talent, but it's that confidence that gets them to that next level to be you know and be able to perform at a high level. And I think there's a serious lack of confidence right now on the team and it really reared its ugly head just spays week, and so that that fire, that confidence guys like aggilrd not laying out for a ball. Lanes comments. What do you think that locker rooms like right now? I'd love to get Chiff Tim on areas to see, just even see with the cafeteria looks like these we eat, you know. Is the defensive Lineman sitting together? The cornerbacks is there? Maybe we should ask say that question for ten. Yeah, not that he would the vulge. Anya would just say the teams eating. Well, so, yeah, we're crushing the competition this week with such and such meal. Yeah, but you know, lane comes out and says, Ma, if we're going to be held accountable, does that mean that they haven't been held accountable? They give you if you say we're going to start that way. Yeah, so what has dog been doing? HMM, right here the players coach, and that's fine. Yeah, you don't need to be a disciplinarian like you know, parcels and buddy used to be right. But you're here about players coming late, not coming at all, and then Malcolm turn Jenn says I have no idea what he's talking about. So I think to me Malcolm is doing the party line right. He's what happens in a locker room stays in the locking the room. We don't need to bring that out in a pop. Right, that's fine, I get that. But these two guys are leaders on this team and you're getting different messages from two of the leaders on this deal. And that's the troubles you there's that's trouble. Yeah, Oh my God, was I going to say? You got so that right there. You got lean and Malcolm not agreeing on what's going on and you got the other leaders. You look at Peter's cocks. They're not playing at a level where some of these younger guys can really kill old man. Honestly, like you laughing at you, old man, you can't. A leader can only say so many things. They need to do. They need to have some action. You need to see them on the field and lane. HMM, I get it. Peters probably carries a little bit more because of his years, but Fletcher hasn't and I don't think he's fully healed from that injury. And I he missed everything. He had no training camp, no all, no, no preseason, nothing. All he did was work out by himself. Did he practice with the team training camp? I don't think he didn't play, but I don't know if he practice with the team either. I think I this season has been hard for him, coming back from that injury and not getting any repetitions at all before the season started. And I think it you know, a guy like him, yeah, he's a veteran. Maybe he doesn't need as much work as a new guy, but he still needs some work. He needs to get in there for a couple plays during the preseason, He needs to go to Ota's, you know, work out with the team, practice with the team, whatever, and I think it's it's shows now, you know, we're going in the week eight, going in the week eight, and he's he's I in my opinion, I think he's lagging behind because of the lack of, you know, the things that he was able to or should have been doing during a springing in the summer. I want to go down to practice and see if they practice tackling Hu is that that's always been one of the things that this team was never good at. We'd have two or three guys on a field that could tackle mm and the rest would just even Darkins at times. MMM was, you know, he would throw his body at somebody like a missile and forget to wrap them up. Yeah, did you see? Speaking of that, did you see Malcolm Jen Jenkins try and throw a shoulder block on Zeke Elliot to bring them down? Yeah, that's what I was talking about. You kidding me? Why? First off, the fact that Zeke got to Malcolm with no proberty. Canopy touch them?...

Hey, but then yet malcolm goes low at his legs and he just now now that. I'm good with going low. I'm good with that. What I'm not good with is trying to knock him off his feet with a shoulder block. That's not happening, Dude. Lead with your shoulder, go low, yes, but then you wrap. You got to wrap up. You can't expect to knock somebody over, not a Zeke Elliott. No, you're not going to get him off his feet with a shoulder block. You know, Jason Peters might do it, put Malcolm Jenkins is not. And that area of the field that they're in to like. Yeah, why? Why do you not have your linebackers right and ready for them? Yes, instead they're off covering hmm, Jason Witten, who it doesn't matter because he's open anyway, makes the catch. It was it was a frustrating game. It was. It was an embarrassing lost, MMM, loss, and the whole team. Lamar Jackson, was wearing a tshirt after his game. It said nobody cares. Work Harder. Yeah, at that's where I met with these eagels. HMM, work harder. I'm tired excuses. Stopped saying if we had this player would have been better. All, we should have folds, and you know this, coach. Look, just get your shit together. Yep, get your shit together. And you know what, I don't know that we have time to do it with a bills team coming in here this week, that we're going out there a five and one bills team with a strong defense. This is not a gimme. Now, I buy a long shot. Look back to our preseason predictions here. MMM, I would think I could do it, most of US probably. We all wills pill DUB as a win. Yes, Yep, when straight across, Yep. And then we got Chicago. Now Chicago, HMM. Still have a strong defense, but yeah, they're awful. See, was going, scary me, you're bisky. Yeah, and then I by. I would love to have that by this week. Y. Give these guys another week to stew on that steaming pile that they left down there in Dallas. And speaking of steaming pile, any word on if Frat left the steaming pile on this? I thought you're going to ask gift that steamy pile. Frat made it acrony. Now we know. We know, we do know. He made it back. Yeah, he made it back and he's not confirming, north denying any partaking of of that ass whooping in the video. SAW The video? Yes, yes, sorry, sorry to interrupted. Now. It's leaving that stinking pile of Dong, leaving that stinking pile down there. Yes, so we I think it stories popping up again about now. The Eskin saying it outshone was the one that made the comments about when it's look again, I'm getting back to the loyalty. I'm getting back to the you guys get your shit together and I'm fans like. I don't want to tell you how to be a fan, but stop with the stupid shit like falls isn't here, he's not coming here. Whence is the guy that we have for down right? MMM, right, see, now you're if your brother is in here. He's a big folds guy. Yeah, see, yeah, he'd be Curson maybecause now we can't keep falls. All right, but is there anything else about that game we want to talk about? It sucks going into work and having there's a cowboys fan I work with and likes she she has a the star mouse pad and I put I put a go birds thing on there we ago, and so I don't see it at all. Of a sudden she comes around the corner and are you yeah, yeah, it just happens to be a happy yeah. Fortunately I don't think I work with any cowboys fans. The one that I did work with, he no longer works there, and we sat side by side and yeah, Ronnie, that was Rodney, yes, and we used to go at it on occasion and he would try and throw something up and I'm like no, dude, that's not going up. Not, you're not in Texas. Yeah, you know, yeah, we're not in Philly, but we're a hell of a lot close to the Philly then we aren't Texas. And I let him have one little star up on the wall and that was it. But yeah, show darts at it now. Unfortunately I couldn't do it. Yeah, I didn't have to put up with any of that crap, but we know enough? Yeah, that we you know, people like Chuck Shortan. We tried to get a cowboys fan to come in, Mike last nobody wanted to come in. Yep, yeah, we know a few of them. So what can my out? That's right, Mike Kane. Yes, yes, my he the only redeeming thing for Mike Kane, as he is a prep guy. So I...

...used to like my can do it. Well, I look, I'll put I'll put the offer out there again for there. We the other season want people, want to come in here swinging their junk around like, you know, the big boys, and by that time they maybe, he maybe, yeah, but I just let's sit down and I'm station. HMM. I was really hoping last weekend there it both both of my teams would have been able to get a head coaches fired. Jim harball still on his way. I think Penn state laid one should say. Lad. Will they beat him with she can? It got a little close at the end. Yeah, yeah, I sold a couple beads on, come on, I wasn't sweaty. Yeah, you, where's the beer kicking? Yeah, Scott was ready to wipe them off for you. I'd be out drinking with Kensky for a while. Okay, it was oh yeah, the alcohol come out and it was all hot crick water, those guys boys. Creek water, North Cath North Catholic Day. Steve Case, you're interested, down a crick water last Saturday. Eaton. Yeah, that offers out there again for the next cowboys game. MMM, I want to get somebody in here and and definitely we'll talk about this rivalry and their bad upbringings. Of you know Monica Grippley Right, yes, she says her mom is a cowboys fan. Sorry, guys, not good my Mrs Clifton Not Digging at Oh well, well, I think it's a good time to take a break. Did you get all the other vinegar out? You know, we play that way against Dallasy. There's no there's no such thing as getting all the vinegar out. It's you know, you're just hitting the pressure relief alf. And does the sixers win last night make any happier? Yeah, over ball. Say, yes, well, we'll get in. Will get into that. And you know what else? Does the Phillies, Hiro and Joe Jerrol get into that? Yeah, I'm glad that excites you boys. Yeah, I'm not going to be happy until we get two wins before going to buy. MMM. But on that note, take a quick commercial break for our sponsor. Will come back, we'll talk a little bit more NFL and then we'll get into some seventy sixers in little phillies pinch stripe talk. Be Right back insure phillycom. We can parison shop all the time. Can I get this cheaper on Amazon? What will the store brand save me? Should I get a second set of it on this remodel? So why not do that for your insurance needs? Better yet, why not have someone comparison shop for you? And Insure Phillycom you can get up to ten quotes and about ten minutes with top insurance carriers like progressive travelers, nationwide, selective, liberty, mutual and compass, Kemper and Berkshire. Hathaway. Owner Agent Matt Maloney provides top national carriers with top local service. Just go to insure phillycom to get your quote online, or call Matt at two hundred and five zero zero, five nine zero. For All your insurance needs auto, home, life, business and Medicare, insurance, planes, make sure to go to insure phillycom today or call two one hundred and five, three, zero, zero, five, nine zero. Matt Maloney gives you the national carriers you recognize, from a local company you can trust, insure Phillycom it. Yeah, that saw us and we are back. Say The boot first from the lovely yellow jacket media network studios before we move on. So this is this is a little teaser. This is a little cross promotion action, this is a little call to action. So our boy just I mute my mind. Are Our boys at the crack Bell Crew? They went on last night. Somebody came across this pickle and peanut butter sandwich. Yeah, it was me and I post it up as I guess it's disgusting and if you do, if you eat this, you're a monster. Yes, and been. Never was like, bring it in, I'll eat it. So that's if you want to see here. That how that went. Go listen to their yeah, episodes of wells night. I agree that it's God damned savages. Every watch it's always sonny in Philly, Dennis, I'll look at it. Look at it. We're in a tea shut savages. So put it on Otor that I brought in a pickle pizza and now our show in the past. We've had discussions about the pineapple pizza and we're not fans of it. What do you think of the pickle pizza? Wait, he's that fans of it? None of us really, not you you bring up. Are you doing an pineapple and pizza? All right, no, pineapples don't the other side of the Steve. You're allowed to disagree,...

...all right. Yeah, I love Pineapple on so here's a thing, and I get why you guys probably don't. Are you guys sweets guys? Yes, yeah, so to me, like I'm obviously, I mean I'm a diabetic for a reason. Love my sweet work hard in it. Yeah, it's a lot of beers, a lot, a lot of the lifetime into her. Yeah, so like like on a pizza. I mean I like sweets on anything. I'm Um. The Irish side of me says put catch up on everything and catchups like basically just sugar. Yep, like so, like I can. I like the Pineapple on pizza. For that reason. I like this sweet and the the the acity from the sauce. I don't know, it's just I dig it hm, which I had. It's not for everybody. That the HAM. I'm fine that's not crossing the line. Pineapple and the pizzas crossing. I was in a similar boat with the pickle pizza. So I do something that my wife thinks is disgusting because we're on the cut on the conversation of pickles. So and I she has to go to the store in order this from wow Wi and if your national listener, while I was like a large convenience store, that's that's pretty popular cooking in your Jersey. It's hard to explain if you're not here what it is, but yes, pretty much the shit. So yes, I'll sender to Whi way to get a meat ball sandwich in hever and get pickles on it. I generally get dirty looks for yeah, now explain. I'll explain. So first off, I mean you're a little young, you're not going to understand this yet. Maybe late at night after a night of drinking. There's nothing better than a wow I meet boll sand much. That's a fact. So I discovered that I like pickles on it because it's kind of like a burger. The sauce is different than catch up, but it's still the same idea. Meat Balls are just ground me. The roll is just a role. So obviously catch up in the sauces where you kind of go one way or the other, but it's not all that dis similar. All Right, here's a question. When you decide to put the pickles on the Sandwich? I was hammered. I was going to say exactly alcohol talking or is that your hundred percent? Okay, I think it might have hit it by accident and went I'm going to go for it and it was. I mean it's like it's like that lot of yacht hit pickles on the kiosk by okay, I can kind of see because every once in a while I'll throw a Hollopino on my me bulls heaymage just because I want a little crunch, a little snap. Let something else do it. He little heat. Yeah, I like the heat. So I put pickles on my cheese steaks. Yeah, I've done pickles on cheese. Yep, yeah, I put them on. Pickles. A good ide I'll eat the plain. There's certain I like, there's a certain things you can't do, like you can't do together, like just the idea of peanut butter and pickles, like they're so different realms. Yes, like you're not going to do peanut butter with almost anything that you would eat pickles with. Ye, there's not a sweet and salty yeah, taste with the peanut butter and pickles. Like I want to know who the a hole is that figured let's make this a thing. Probably the same drunken a hole to put pickles on me ball. Say what's und he's going through the cabinet. Nobody's going through the cabin habit hambard and going we're out of Jelly. You know what? You know what it's like Jelly. Nobody's doing not. I don't know, make him grab college days were rough sometimes. You know, maynnaise toast was a big hit. It's whatever you got, you think. He was just like, Oh, I got the wrong thing and we wound up with a relish and wet. Well, this taste good. Pickles are probably taste good. HMM, like maybe he have the wrong squeeze bottle or something. I don't know. I don't know. Are Accidentally doing. Yeah, that's got to be at that's got to be you had. It was probably a bet, Yea ben say it was actually a bed thing. There's a place, I guess over in Jersey it's called it's an actual sandwich that you can buy. It's called a pregnant woman. Oh, because that's a thing they likes. A maybe was my pickles and what else? It's pickles and peanut butter. Oh, and for dessert is a pickles and ice cream. I don't know, Taco Bell for dessert. It's awful. Have you guys seen the new while we're talking about pickles, the Kido Hoogie? I haven't heard of it. Let him see it. All right. So Kido is obviously the Diet Fath that's going around you now. I think I know what. You cut down on the on the CARBS, but you load up on the meats, I guess, and it put you in a state of keytosis in your body starts eating its own fat in order to I guess that's how you lose weight, like frank that just did the line of project with me. He's been on Kido for a while. He's dropped like a hundred sixty pounds, like no shit, like he's lost of time. So Mariy new cheese, which makes a good hoogie. If you ever in the northeast, right off of St Vincent and Brews, probably the best Hoogie in the city. That's a free plug. Not Charge that. I don't know where you guys get your Hoogi's APP but Marion new cheese is now offering a ki too Hoogie, and I've seen it other places too. It's over in Jersey, far away. They do the hoagie on a pickle. The pickle is the vehicle, it's the role. So instead of having the...

CARBS, really, yeah, it's the lunch meat. They cut the pickle down down the center. I guess it's obviously a bigger pickle and they put all the lunch meat to let us to meet it, inside of it and then they seal it together with toothpicks to keep it together. Yeah, that's see, that's too much. I want to do. Then that would be pickle over that's like there's no such thing as pickle overload. I don't know that good telli pickle right out of the right, out of the KEG. Yeah, I can do that. Yes, the whole one. Right, I'd have no problem with you the whole thing, but just sleshing to put that, and that's a lot of salt to it's between the lunch meat and the and the pickle you need. So just got to be high to three days worth of salt and one shot. There needs to be a vehicle that's a bread vehicle. There needs to be some type of class. That's Society's problem. Are I know, everything is bread. I know. Yeah, like when KFC was doing the chicken sandwich that was lard with chicken breast. It was there was no Bunders, chicken. I'm and chicken on top a chicken. I don't. I don't get it. I just can't well happen. At these sandwiches are coming in a donut. See, but that's a that's a bread it. I'm not. That's a boot. It's an all right. So you guys, chicken and waffle. Guys, yes, I've had it. Yes, it's good fan. Yeah. So we went out to Cleveland and I don't know if this is a Cleveland thing, but I like chicken and waffles. My wife and I decided our wedding plans over chicken and waffles and bottomless Blini's at Jones downtown. Was A bantastic morning. Me and her killed two bottles of champagne like an hour and a half. Cool, Glorious Day, but chicken a while. It's where I discovered I love them. We wanted to get like traditional chicken waffles. So I figured when I was out in Cleveland the chicken waffles were going to be the same thing. It's chicken, it's Waffles, it's Syar. We can't mess that up. YEA, you can't screw it. Some places put a little bit of sauce with it. It's like a dipping like. So so they bring it out and I cut through the first piece and I get this mouth of mouthful of something that I was not expecting the first time for you. Yeah, the first usually I have my eyes wide open. Oh my God. So I got a mouthful of cream corn. Oh, chicken, chicken waff underneath the waffle. So it was chicken waffle and then underneath the waffle, who was like a snap, cream corn and I didn't notice it on the menu and I went a little each come back and I was that cream corn and she went yeah, and it's got a little bit of a sweetness, but cream corns just disgusting in general. Yes, it is. I'm not a fan at all. Right, I like the cream corn dudes a nice idem's not a momie's nice. Why would you go cream corner when you go regular corn, every corn fritters that are man cream corn. Yes, you know, but I don't know. Still, no, but imagine, imagine my surprise. Yeah, I would be surprised too. Yeah, that's that's an interesting take on. So the combination of chicken, fried, Chicken Syrup, the Waffle, Oh yeah, the Serup in her too. Yeah, yeah, and the cream corn all one bite. Yeah, that's yeah, that's Yalk. No Way. No, I ate it because it costs like thirty bucks, but I hate it. Yeah, that's kind of a surprising thing for me. CHEF, chef Tim Post it last week, a rescipe I eat, sent me the recipe for a Halipino Cheddar. He scored musing piece. He also send me recipe I tim corner a Corn Muffin, Hallipino Cheddar Belgian waffle, and I actually made them on Monday night. I bust it up the bulge and waffle maker a bit, so that didn't coming out too well, but I think I made the Muffin, added a corn muffin and I had chicken cutlets. So to me that was my kind of chicken and waffles that night. Boom, that's a nice item. Chicken definitely with the Syrup, Donald Truble, he says, not surprised. Jim Lake, scream corn DJ. I know. Yeah, to take to take it a line from flying tell Ellenago cut his hair, just liding it out. I can't see the comments. They're all right. Yeah, and now he's trying to tell me because he just tuned in and I said it's about time. He's now trying to tell me. Sorry, I've been a good student and studying, studying and doing home work. Myers, spider, is it after learn O clock? Just hit nine o'clock. I we're going blue now. All right, let's get back to football. Leave this to get back the way to go, spider, way to go. Is that a yeah, that's good. Thought sells. Yes, when he tells Tommy Right, you know what, Tommy, let you go. What's you going yourself? WHOA, WHOA way to go go for you kid. Where were from here? We're getting back to football. Are we going to the bills? You want to get back to the WAN to bill? Yeah, or we don't wish.

We want to talk about the rest of the NFL first st six. Just do we do we know there? Do we show who these teams are? So as farm boys lose to the jets, didn whoop on us, like real quick. I don't want to just go back, but I do want to make a comment. Yeah, you guys are talking about Malcolm Jenkins. Yeah, that dude stealing money right now and it disgusted me. Should he? Well, that's a question. They at you look at it now like maybe they didn't extend them because they see what they got in a field. The dudes constantly got something to say and as far as I can tell, he's out of position a whole lot. Well, I don't know. Is he out a position or was it putting the name because they have sucky lineback right? Not that I think he's trying to cover up. I think he's rung around, putting his finger in the like, trying to stop them. I don't think. I think they keep brought in the single high and he knows he can't keep up, but he can't get sideline the sideline like he could five years ago. So every time you see one of our cornerbacks get, get destroyed down the line, it's generally there's no help if anybody dare them. Yeah, and if you're going to play that style, where you're going to try to press. If your guy gets blown up off the line, you need help over the top, and they're playing McLeod and Malcolm Jenkins out there right. Yeah, and it's two older safeties who can't run anymore. That's why we look deficient. There's no way that you can convince me that in the last four years we've drafted or brought in nine or ten different cornerbacks and every one of them are too slow to cover. there. There was a list of them that somebody posted on social media of the last like ten drafts, but you're going to have a hard names and dancing me that every one of them can't cover the depot. Yeah, one of the guys will be facing this week in Jordan poyer. He's starting for Buffalo Right Sidney Jones looks like he's a bust. He was supposed to be busy at buss because he's not, because this defense doesn't work. Because my feeling on Jim Schwartz as his defense, where he wears his welcome out everywhere go. Yeah, YEP, after a while every team figures it out. He's like the Larry Brown yeah, defensive cord years. Yeah, it's a grating analogy. Yeah, he's there, he gets it to a certain level, you might actually win a couple things and then it gets on. Yes, retired to Schwartz. They're getting out. That is a good get at analogy. I did see McLeod came on a corner butts the other man as like wow, we haven't seen that in a while, that that was like Jimmy Johnson days and he actually almost got there, but he does. I agree. Neither of these shafeties have the speed, which is why they're safeties, but it's a problem when your quarterbacks don't have the speed either. If you I could read Douglas's Jersey, I usually wear glass. I can read the name Douglass on the back of the Jersey every time, because all you ever sees the back of that guy chasing someone. Yeah, and I agree. It's funny that you say that I got less than a week for the trade deadline. Yep, Denver lost last week. Don't get Chris Harris. All these moves are being made underneath. How he's nose. I don't know if he's picking up the phone or not. Dj said what last week it was. I think that he, you know, has how he retired when all those debacks are being traded. I'm right there with them. Man, what is he doing? He's not to my now, you know, I don't have I'm not privy to anything from the eagles or not an insider now, not evensidness. Was that just him? Is Jeff Timmy easy feed you info? See, he feeds me the recipes and he gives you the info. Yeah, I'll take the info over the recipes. But I mean it's it's just he's not. He's not making these these deals that we need have done. He's it. You seem some of these trades and you see the teams that are doing them. Yeah, the Patriots every year, and you go him. I would he gave that up. Yes, is he just not knocking on the right over for Brown, an Tonio Brown? They didn't give up a whole lot for Antonio Britain. Now he went and blew that up, but they didn't give up. They gave up a seventh round, two thousand and twenty one, twenty one dray pick for Bennett. Yeah, and I read the article further and it can turn into a sixth rounder. But still, would you give up a sixth rounder for my two thousand and twenty one six round from what you damn might, I would, with the shape arn't defensive line is right now. Dam might not we give up a sixth round there two years from now for Michael Bennett? Hell, yeah, come on, Manhammad Snou. Yeah, yes, make a call. It's Manuel Sanders got traded. I saw an article today on the NFL that. Can I ask question? Yeah, the Manuel Sanders and Muhammad sinew. Without looking it up, WHO's older? I think so now was older? No clue, right, say, if you had to guess, I think sandrews only been in the league for like four years. Where sends on? We did the same experiment last night and totally shocked me. I thought, said WHO's been in a League for like fifteen, sixteen years? A man's only thirty years old...

...and and Emanuel Sanders is thirty two, is he? Yeah, Damn. What about I love you, Julio. Is Is he younger? Didn't then I say Julio's only twenty seven or twenty eight, so he is younger than is. Yes, this is like Shinoo's fourth team. Now me. So, oh, so, who wasn't since Daddy? Right, he started with Cincinnati and then he went to it lant anyone went to okay, so and then he went to the pages at thirteen. But I feel like he's been he's one of those guys who came in and made an impact. He made an impact right away. Sin New did, playing alongside I think he was there before Aj Green. Right now, I think you started with Aj didn't because that was like their one to punch. Maybe you're right, but like, I feel like he made an impact right was there just Sinko? If he's been in a League for, call it nine years? Is that row? So I didn't think he's got a bead at these. Came in. Awe, he's thirty. Yeah, but like I was still I would have thought sinew was like thirty three. And when they said it was a second round pick, I'm going last really high for a guy who's, you know, almost in his mid S. and then we looked it up and I went he's went thirty years old. And then that we start talking about Emmanuel Sanders. I'm like we's gotta be the same age. What's he twenty thirty tops, and he went now he's thirty two and I'm like wow, I would have see I'm not ly slipped those guys. Yeah, I thought Sanders might have been on. His second cont thought it was sanders. Yeah, HMM. He thought what, Sanders is older. Yeah, he looked. No, no, you said younger. Right. Did you ask younger or older? I said, who do you think's younger? He would see, said he guess Sanders. Yeah, the Nice all report, when before he came on the night, that the jets are now saying it Robbie Anderson may be available. Yeah, all up your Buddy Joe Douglas. Hey, Joe. Right, he went this Jj kid that you told me should have drafted. You're at this maccollins kid that you told me we should have drafted. That's that's I really don't know what to make of JJ. I mean I understand during the preseason he was going against guys that were second stringers and guys that weren't going to make the team, but he looked pretty good against those guys. He looked like he could play. He's not playing at all and he's a second round pick. He supposed to be the air parent to Altshon. He's to are parent to noball Mac Collins, which is insane. It. Alee. Yeah, I mean, the guy can't get on the field and when he does get on the field, either he doesn't see the ball or that passed down the middleware went through his hands and against Detroit and we ended up losing the game. Yeah, now, I'm not blaming him for losing the game. There are a lot of things that went into US losing that game, but he had a chance to win the game force and it went right throw his hands. And it's the type football he's supposed to get that fifty ball. You know at the basketball skills. He's got the height. Right's that? Yeah, so I'm not I'm not necessarily blaming JJ. I'm blaming Howie. What are you doing spending a second round pick on a guy that that you can't get on the field? And not only can you not get him on the field, you can't get them on the field when you have a man down into Sean. Yeah, is that how he's fault? Because I think when he was drafted most people said that's a pretty good so I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was a real solid pick and then I watched him playing preseason I'm like, yeah, okay, this guy's going to work out, and then season starts that he can't get on the field. Yeah, I don't know. There's just there's names out there. Josh Gordon, patriots put them on Ir. He says he's healthy, so he's just waiting. Yeah, but if he's an I are you can't go get them. It's not like the he's only now. But he's going to be released from he's going to be released from my R. Okay, I don't know how long they're going to keep him on there, but he I'm healthy. He say it. I'm healthy. He can't continue to hide them on there. So He's going to get released and he shot at him for a rest of the year. You're going to pay a beat up the Sean Jackson. For what it's worth, Gordon had other issues, right, which he seems to be okay since he's been with the pats the last year for one season. To try to get you through, or are we sellers at the deadline? That's that's what comes. Yeah, if, how he's not out there looking to make moves, then there's I can see you go this. This team just doesn't have confidence in themselves. Why? Right, why are you not out there? The Ramsey thing, whatever I and and if he doesn't try and get help other than band AIDS just to make it while. I did this, I did that. If he's not trying to get serious in his efforts to get help, does that mean we gave up on this season already? That's what I'm saying is is there no confidence? We done? Shall we just pack it in and play for a pick next year? Tank it there, I say, there's no tanking with Miami.

And what's going on that Washington game right now? They they down by forty. Yet hopefully Kirk and Stefan Diggs are hooking on. So, surprisingly enough, I'm actually watching basketball. I'm watch a Milwaukee and the rockets. So all right, well, that seems I can might be a never girts. Sorry, not sorry. Perfect segue into last night. Dj thinks they're going to try to get tight again Golden Tor. Yeah, or he said we're trying to get Robbie. We tried getting Robbie last year. Yeah, but settled for Tait. I think they'll call again for him for Robbie maybe. Yeah, I guess he means we're going to try for Robbie again. And apparently Cleveland's going about Vitie. Yeah, I heard that. I saw something today on ifotcom that the coult should ask you about angiler. Take them, Yah, take yeah, sorry, and John Know that's your boy. You sent me a now file. Send me a hairbrush, something I can't use. I'll send you back. Nelson. That's the right. That's what I'm ready to do after the guy didn't. You could use a beer charmer. I wouldn't. Yeah, they can send your beer charmer a wall. I'm not shaving until they win. WAA Shl. I do that the weak except that, yes, you would beer. True. So we got less than a week. This team, after this bills game, maybe before the build game even, could look like a completely different team going coming home against Chicago. MMM, maybe you should say completely different, because just don't have if I mean we're picking up d tackles off the team's prize. Yes, that that's what I'm saying, man, they're picking up all the team's garbage. That's embarrassing. Yeah, it is. Now it is. Are You DISSAD? A great it's a grander and no, I was muted up factful, because I would have been really glad. It's that embarrassing. I want to get robbed to isolate that for being put it on the board because I was cricket, but it is embarrassing that it is. That's why they said them reduced to is picking up all the team's trash. So do you get the feeling that they don't want to spend any money for whatever reason? Yeah, and you think that, like it's that just might be part of it. This just reeks of like just cheapness, like I don't want to spend on it. Right, that that is probably part of it. But I think you think they're just sitting on their laurels, that you know, look what we said two years ago. Beat every one of those deals and not sweat at any of it, every single one of them. So either they have a better deal in mind that they're waiting on. Where that what? There's no move for what? There's no other logical reason. Either you what, don't want to spend the money, or well, listen, you could make a deal for Patrick Peterson, right, you could make a deal for Harris. Sure, I take them in herpeat if we talked about their last week. Yeah, Oh, yeah, but he's older, Rames, he's only twenty four. Better than what we have. Yeah, I'm not giving up now. You're right. He is. I don't know if I'm giving up two second round picks the more and more I think about it, because there's no guarantee that you're going to resign the dude. I think you get some Ramsey. Yes, I believe he's signed through next year. Yeah, but I'm still not giving up two second round picks for a guy that I know I'd like if but he is. He is one of your first round draft picks. He's I'm not twenty four. I got that. You're a hundred percent right on the age and how you're putting the two draft picks there together. You'd have to have some kind of reassurance that you're going to get to resign him, like you have to have some reassurance that he wants to be here. Yeah, you know what I mean. I get it. I get it. You don't. Let's say he comes in here and he plays in Schwartz. Do you fence for three games? It goes. This place sucks, Bro I'm not happy. You know what I mean. And also, no, I can mind. I can definitely. He's also made some coverings without a lot of people in the league. There's probably all the select few places where he can go yeah, where people are going to be like, do you remember when you said this about me and you had these conversations because you thought you were going to be a Jaguar for life? HM, for life? No, now you got to deal with that. Now we're in the locker room and it's just you and I say that shit to my face. Right, it wasn't cough one of them that he I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he ripped and I heard like they're like, oh well, three pass attempt, sixty nine yards is what he gave up in his debut. That's not actually good. Yeah, it's because he didn't give up a time. Got Hurt last Weekn Matt Ryan Wasn't met Ryan last week. Yeah, he's very good, but he's a problem and I don't know if I would have given up two round, two second round picks for a guy. Don't know if I'm going to be able to hold onto where resign. But see, that could be sure. My point where this season was supposed to be a championship season and hey, so if you're huh on paper, yes, also, if you're not making that move, are you then saying,...

...oh well, this is not a championship season. Yes, and if you're not making move. If you're not making that move, the Ramsey move. All right, are you then saying this is sorry, folks, but we don't see this as a chance season. I have. I'll give holly's a benefit of the doubt that he tried to make that move. He did. The rams need we know we are. The Jaguars need to be willing to I don't know why. The jaggers know think the rams picture more valuable, but maybe they did. And it's it all right. Well, member mark ackle. Yeah, he has a pod of fifteen minute podcast the team packers. Fin All of a sudden he is now, I think he's always always been. Yes, and very suspect. Yeah, he has a fifteen minute podcast with an x Eagle and an ex Philadelphia Star, and that the guy's name. I think his name is Ken something. His name is escaping me right now. But and he rose. Now. I do listen to to the podcast Rosenthal, and he said he heard that. Remember Tom Coughlin? Yes, he was like a screw you, Philly, you're not getting them. So that's why I say I don't care what you'll all for, you're not getting them. It takes two teams. Yeah, it takes you to tell. Yes, they might have offered a third instead of a fourth. WHO FIRST IN THE THIRTY AND JACKSONVILLE MNTON not interested. He send them out west. Baltimore offered a pretty competitive package as well for Ramsey Ramsay and turned to down. HMM, might have been two firsts as well. It's well, it sounded like that was the opening bid, was to first and they had to put the Churi on top. I think that there was a little back and forth to with it where shod con didn't want to trade him. I think I say for yeah, I think that that's a true statement. He wasn't trying to drive the price up, because they got offers right away. Like it wasn't it wasn't as if teams did it want to pay them. And their report was at Baltimore offered like a first and a second or something, or maybe even was two first and for whatever reason that I guess, at that point they were like now he's off the market and I don't know why they wouldn't circle back because maybe at that point, if they went back to Baltimore, I got they were made a move right. Yeah, they they trade it for Marcus Peters with the rams earlier. Actually, yeah, it was the day before, was it? The Sea did the same day because the rams couldn't make the deal for for Ramsey because they have too much cap issue. I got the other thing with the ramps to like they're gonna to get real creative to be able to resign him anyway, because they've got so many guys. I think it's like five guys and I've got like a hundred million tied up in them. Between girly golf, Aaron Donald, like just that right. There is like seventy eighty million hours by itself and three. So then so they go. So there's a team. Can how we get creative? Give the rams call and say what do you want for Brandon Cooks? I don't want brandon cooks. I was going to say I don't want brandon cooks because he's just another concussion. Wait and happen. But I'd offer them are aren't from the first for Cooper call? Yeah, but he they're not gonna GIVE UP Cup. He's still on a rookie deal. And you know what happens if Cooper Cup comes here right, everybody goes out and buys an eighty one jersey. He becomes Kevin Curtis. We get one game, that's it. He then you got a bunch of kids running around with the Yellow Lady Blue Jersey's. He did have a great game against Detroit, a great game, a great game to bad resign them for full day, Ol Buddy of the let's for touchdowns, Polkay, that's what the say. Championship, though, man, yeah, I won't deal with, I won't make a deal for a wide receiver out of La just out of spite because of that screwed. But there's guys out there. There are. That's what I'm saying. Like you got it. There's the names that are at Robbie Anderson's and robbing, you know, wasn't. It's a new name today, new. Yeah, was sin. Whose name out there now? I've say, but saying there. So I think outside the box here. You just see it. hesed. It a top off the defense kind of guy. If just shaunts here, these games are such different. They are. But that's the thing you should have shown in here. You should have put so much exactly invested in him being the only guy you had on the roster that has the capability of doing that. Yeah, truthfully, Hollins was supposed to be able to do that. Right. Hollins is supposed to people have some speed, more than what they had, and an he had a little bit of length. And when the guy says he'd rather play special teams, I'm done with them. Get them out of here. Yeah, all right, when we will do we we have to give predictions for the bills game and there's a couple other sports that we want to talk about it. So I will run through it real quick. Bills Mafia going up there, five and one. I should have looked to see the bills have next, their next game. It just this game was a w all is up until...

Sunday. This game was a w and after Sunday. I don't know. I really don't know. Want to do our confidence positions, to give a little bit more now, more cons got more confidence that once a Josh, hell, no, none. None. Do you have any confidence in our positions? No, but I won't statement to make what's that? Peters, Jason Peters and dish and dance roles need to retire. Yeah, I think you're going to get that. Yeah, I think that. Yeah, happened at the end of this year. They need to yea whether they retired the board just drive aways getting injured every season, every games, every game. Yeah, I'm done with it. Yeah, I think it's going to get your wish. Yeah, I don't think you have to save your birthday wish for that. When I think that's going to happen. So you can't even say that you have more confidence in carsons and then Carson. You Do Josh Allen, Carson. It's just a play calling that Doug makes. That's it. I have doing a confidence and if I have to go position by position, the one position I think we do have running back. We have a we have a running game. I would go with Carson over just about anything else. But then you know, Josh Allen. Well, if they stop fumbling the ball by receiver, our receivers are still catching the ball. Yeah, whether the boss there or not, I know catching the ball as a big part of being a wide receiver. Yeah, it's a little a little bit of a for most teams. It is maybe not number one priority. You're right, and the skills, but right, defense, I don't know that we have anything on the defensive side of the ball. They not. Not at this current moment. We don't. Jews Schwartz does not push. He blushes not at all. He see does it's like once every game. That's because of his deficiencies in the backfield. Yeah, he's got yeah, he's got to leave the bodies in the backfield to cover. Well, he's playing like man one on one. Against Minnesota was Stefan digs and just Russell Douglass. That's not going to work out. Well, it did, and it hitting. Watch Adam deal the russells back running down that field twice. Well, who guarded on? Oh, who adn't dealing against her? And follow another garbage can? Yeah, just, yeah, I'm thinking. I'm pretty sure it was another garbage can with no linebackers. Are shafeties back to the helping no closure? Yeah, I'll give. I'll give defense to Buffalo. Yeah. So what's interesting about buffalo is their offensive line. They rotate a tackle really, yeah, the right tackle. They rotate. That's weird. That is really weird. Say You. Maybe Brandon has a decent game and can take advantage of one of those. Yeah, it's not something that you see often. Defensive Line. Yeah, you see these. Yeah, they waited in and a take all the time. Offensive Line, you know, don't do this all about chemistry with dis guys. So they have a rotating tackle. That is really strange. So that that'll be one position where maybe we can have a key match up. So who might be able to say right tackle, the right tackle, who's on WHO's on the left end? Graham it? It'd be be g your Barnett. Yeah, unless they Graham has to get the Josh Owon and Schwartz has to bullets this game. I'm third down. He has to bullets. Well, it depends on the yardage. Till stir down. This isn't matter. Yes to bullets. You have to get pressure on them. You want to give a prediction, I'll say seventeen nothing, buffalo. Seventeen nothing. Well, well, Andrew, we're not seventeen seven. Stick with your remember I told you how hard it is to get a shut out in the NFL. The Eagles. I've faith to though. Swore nothing. Wow, faith that this is good. This gets back to my loyalty comments. Rightlier. Right, great, playing attention to hers feeling. You don't way home. Right. Yeah, school starts at what time? SHUND thirty five or whatever? Forty, forty, man, like I said, up until Sunday this game was at w I'm still going to go there because there's no money on the line here and I'm going with my heart and I run a pool in work where there is money involved. So for the record here I'm going with a win. But where there's...

...money involved, I went with Buffalo. Yeah, you want to give a score, you just you going, you go teller style, just going straight up. Yeah, two thousand six and twenty three ylikes. Yeah, and it might be a forty five yarder from Elliott to do it. I'll just want right. Yeah, I have no feel for this game. Last week I didn't really have a feel other than I felt they weren't going to be high and I thought it would be a lot closer. I bought with Doug was selling last week when he made that statement. I got it thrown right like of my face. They need to win. They Dad, they're they, they are the desperate team. They are the desperate team, and that's supposed to work in your favor. We need to have been hard to come by. Hmm, I have it. I have a three and a hend. This three week trip on the road is feeling like a three month trip on the road right now. Goddamn it, Philish I'm going to go twe seventeen eagles. Dj's right there with these. says two THOUSANDE hundred and seventeen. Oh, I'm sorry, bills. He says twenty seventeen bills. Yeah, all right, what's your pick? Their kid. We gave it. He said, I'll seventeen. No, that's right. Yeah, and you're stick with that goose egg, the big zero. It's written down. What are you doing, library? Why'd you back there watching the visual? I was they got something going on in this game. Yet that's totally distracted me and I think that it apt to tonight a better never happened again. I'm seriously, I'm going to go on an email campaign. This is worse than the the the globe pocket hockey. Really, God, explain it, explain it later. So I'm gonna go birds win and I'm going to go two, twenty, one of faith. HMM. We wanted to talk sixers. I'm gonna give you lines that I made up. Okay, giving me, giving me each thousand bucks and thousand thousand bucks to bake, to bet, shake, over over under fifty six ways. Yeah, wow, all I picked under fifty five over under fifty six wins over over, Steve, would you think? Thousand Dollars over? Want to blow Myn the whole thing, the whole load, right, right right on the over. He said fifty six, fifty six. Yeah, I'm definitely going over. I got other bet to you. You're out another bestick. You just go over. I'll go over. I'm not put my whole nut on it. I'll go. I'll go a hundred credit eats over. How many you think they get? Huh, how many you think they get? Sixty, fifty, sixty really? Yeah, BET gonna finish the best record in the east. Ben Simmons. Three pointers attempted over under fifteen for the season. For the season. HMM, under a nine hundred under. This is this is just a temperty down. Yeah, I'M gonna go on there with that all. So I'M gonna go see three, one hundred credits. No, you already shot your Wad on the I'm with you on the under. This is the problem. Anyway. See everything in front of me before I invest my money. You can't get me one at a time, but such chasers. I'll let you just locks. I haven't locked it in yet. I let these are lunch. Your numbers are off. Ben Ben Freeze made four and a half. Where did you get these from? I told her. Just made this shit. I pulled it out of my ass today. said it the guys I work with nothing to do. It worse, though, I've got some of my own money. I'M gonna listen. I got my wallet right here. I'm going under all M's and a half. We're making job going on there and a half. Dj says they're winning sixty games and they're smashing that over. Oh well, I like Dj. He also is good at Ben's probably taking forty two, three day mine and make him three aking. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna win the three point God. I'll give you good odds on that. Every money ball dropping. Yeah, all right, this was gonna hurt a little bit. Joel, games played, I got it at at a fifty seven and a half under. What is it games played for M but's a number. Fifty seven and a half. I think you're like closed. To be honestly, I think she plays like sixty. Yeah,...

I'll say I'm going over. I think he goes on the Qui Load Management Plan and plays like sixt two hundred sixty six. I'm wearing that right. I'm going over and the rust of his body. I'm gonna go over. All right, everybody's over, except for range, you said under all right, save his body for the playoffs. Could Happen. Last year he was sick, but supposedly he reported. Yeah, twenty pounds later, my bullet. No, no, he's twenty pounds later. He definitely now he is. Yeah, when is a chick lay right next to his former yeah, really, every quick actually explain that. He said that he wouldn't even eat half the shit. It was just the point of sending the rookie, because nobody would send the rookies to do anything. Ah. So he was like, I wasn't eating all of that. It was just the point that he had to go through the friggin drive through to get all that stuff. It was more like the principal of it all. And Bead. Yeah, you're lying. My Division Champs, yes, or now lady's Division Champ? Yes, yes, I say no, fashion when the Celtics? Yeah, wow, seventeen through. No, serious. Who Do you think? Some of him? So really correct him with your Larry Bird thirty three. I don't have a Larry Bird. Thirty three. All right, DJ says. Ifan is taking less than fifteen threes. There's some common sense day. All right, damn, he says I'm bad. Plays forty five to fifty games. What? Let's how he's only playing forty five. Way Their game. To say there's no way to get yas sixty. Your logics off, Taj. Yeah, we really dude. Eastern Conference Champs, Eastern Conference, I got it. We're in. We're in the finals. I'm going to make addiction. Clippers six ers finals this year. Keith pompey laid out a really, really good case for Milwaukee winning the Eastern Conference. I will say I said no to Division Champs, but I say yes the White Conference Champs. What are you going? What are you smoke? It's at too many years, to many one win the division but they win the composer, I didn't start when I said it. No, you did not. It's wow. I don't think he knows the difference between a conference and it's what I'm starting to think. I think he gave the game a backwards. So who do you think? When's the East that division? We would want to division. If they don't want the selbys you have, if they don't win the division, that means that best or the third? There, the third seed. Okay, and would who'd have in eat your conference? There are three to them. So much see, and that's waiting for Steve's what. They're three divisions sort are three division winners at best, they would be. For I think there's only two, isn't there? There's two divisions, two divisions in each conference. Yeah, there's only two. Really, yeah, it's wait, hold on, there's only two. I thought they were. HMM. It doesn't matter, because at the end of the season they just break it down into the top at yeah, right, right. Where you finishing your division, though, matters. As far as pretty eastern conference, what's IT say? Boxer, six shoos. Break them down at LNIC, central, southeast. So three division we specific selfwest. So three divisions EAS each conference. Yeah, so he so, yeah, the best that could be. As for yeah, yeah, Jimmy, now, and they're going to win that. The the east out at a four spot. Come on, Yemmy, why not? Okay, like Steve said, why do you hate them so much? Yeah, what it's good trap round Shait, just Berger. It's a trigger point. What do you you're just rattling somebody's cage. Right, yeah, because in that same numbers I made last night. Just said, listen, you guys all be Steven A, I'll be Max collerman. Somebody's got somebody's got it over under winds versus Boston. Joe's papers round one and a half. I just it was one and a half, as was what I made up. Yeah, I think. Well, they got the one last night, so it's a hid game. I'm going to put a few thousand dollars. I'm putting the whole not on it. All over. I was just had with games due to that. was in the mood, just because when I see these Goddamn fans with the Eagles sucres do that, this is me. That's petty. That's way, way under Steve. I know you guys got it. That's all about that. That's who you're progress. How many games do they play? Guess Each Division Team Was Petty Hal set's all it was. Any Games do we play against each division game or team?...

Played them four times, four times for two and two. Yes, yeah, I'll definitely get morning one and a half. If they're going to be the division change, they better I'm borrowing a thousand off of somebody. Yeah, that one. Yes, the high vigorous. MMM, I'm gonna Barrow Tenzero dollars with the high bigger as. So is anybody wanting to say NBA Cham I am. MMM, club cliffers Qui get to second show when your picking the sixers as NBA Champ, I am. I'll tell you why. Please do all right. So the clippers, I think you're going to take it. It's going to take a little while for them to Joe Defensively. I think they're going to be a good team. Don't but I'm not denying that their part, they could make the championship. MMM, if they had the playoffs in the championship. The problem that we're going to was so big that's going to be an issue for them. Like, let's be honest, Kauhi walked. He traveled right. So if they make that correct call, they're just a series of three different things that happen there. Jimmy should have got the end, one on the on the steel and the break. We should have been up one, not tied. Right. Kauai travel. There's no doubt in my mind. They called the travel. We get the ball back, we run the clock out, Games over, we go against Milwaukee, we beat then we go to the championship, but I guarantee you this, two of those guys that are on the bench get traded before February for a shooter. We're getting shoe. That's what I've had. So und your shooter. Why? Because you had cork MIS starting last night. He didn't start. He wasn't the start Iz night. He's been a lot of time on the court. Then played minutes because you needed you needed to put soon as they realized that they were going about of the shooter. I mean Hiris is supposed to be your shooter, right. So Harris can shoot, Richardson can shoot and beat he's they don't want them to shoot. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want my center being my shooter. The way that they play because, like, the reason a lot of teams want to go with the three point and spread the floor out that way is becomes a higher percentage shot because their biggs can't shoot. They don't have or they don't have biggs to get in there correct we do like, if you look at our numbers, like Horford and and beat are probably going to shoot somewhere around seventy percent because most of the shots are going to be close to the basket right. That's the way that it should be. So you figured to bias. Harris is going to be out on the wing, Richardson's gonna be out on the wing, Ben's going to be out on the wing. Kind of dish out. You're going to play a lot of inside outside. Horford is one of the best passers from the Big Man Position in the league. So you're going to add another shooter. They think they will. Can be a D guy. You know, I'm big on him. Zaire Smith can can hit a couple threes, but they're going to make a trade. Ziar's probably going to be gone. I can see. You know, somebody on that bench, either Ennis or Scott, wants two of them have to go to bring in a decent side of the Nature Rad your number one pick, who are here? I mean number one last year. I mean it's not relevant. Yeah, when is he ever going to play? Let's be honest, right, but he has value if he's if you're going, wow, shit, they went. They waited how long the Trade Marquel? I don't think I may wanted Marquel and there and they're yeah, that would that's true. But you're going to give up one or not own as I year not get it up on them, but I know that I'm going to need a shooter like let's you want to get, you that shooter, him and somebody else, like if you could trade him and Ennis, or you know, like whatever the look get creative. Teams won't make moves. Yeah, I think they trade for a shooter and their window is so it's so small right now because next year durant comes back and they're automatically Brooklyn's going to be the best team in the east, because it's going to be hard to contend with that. Right. You're assuming Katie's back and he's fully healthy. I don't see a reason he's not, and that Brooklyn team is loaded. Yeah, I worried about the shooter. If we're going to get a shoot. You asked me today WHO's taking who you want to have the ball. You need shot either to tie or win. Harris takes it. Harris takes looks got who? Yeah, you have confidence. Harris makes it. Who Do you have more confidence to make the Harris or it's and is Mike Scott, which I'm working. I appreciate Mike Shot at only does for his fan base, but he got to know that you're he's a character. You're a basketball guy, you watch a lot of games, right. So you're probably the only one out of the four of us in here other than myself, that has seem to bias Harris play before he was a sixer. Actually, those games are on past my bedtime. That that's so I was well aware of the bias. Harrison debias Harris is game before, before we got him, he...

...would have been one of the guys that I would have said to target because he's a big body guy who can shoot. When he was in Detroit and he was in in the clippers and he was the guy like dude bald like he's at, he was averaging eighteen points a game. He would have been a Western Conference Allstar and he got snubbed. That all the sudden he comes here and can't play anymore. I think it's because they they stuck him down low and kind of diminished his role because Jimmy Butler such a demanding guy. Well, I was going to ask you he think he kind of shrunk in his shadow too? Yes, and I think giving him the money that they did and him starting to realize that he has to go back to that, you know, killer be killed. Mindset. Him and being and Horford are going to be a force and I just I don't think there's anybody in the east that is as deep as we are right now. Like, I know Milwaukee is predicted to win more games than us. Call it what you will, I think Milwaukee got worse when they lost Braddon. Added bled. So I got bled. So, but I don't know, I don't believe in Milwaukee as much. Yeah, honest, isn't. I'm stoppable and not down. I agree. I think stoppable anywhere. He can't. He can shoot, but not like yeah, I think Yannis it was. It was just his year last year. Yeah, it was a ton of players that you can go back and look at him and go he had that one good year. I'm not saying that you honest, isn't going to have more good years. I'm just saying that he played out of his friggin mind last year and he's going to have to duplicate that because he doesn't have much scoring on that team. Along with them. I was you say he's one man. May Not have many good years in Milwaukee, because I don't know that he sticks around in Milwaukee. Yeah, he's a woman shelf there. Didn't heat? Didn't he just sign up there? Ye, honestly. Yeah, now he's a free agent. Action that all right? I thought you just saw she's think he might be restricted, though, to be honest, not enough years, I think so. All Right, I'm are six Ers Talk Alis. At least they will go, go to phillies. If the if Nicole is still watching, she might be knocked out on her couch right now. I don't know if you guys need a time check, but it's forty five. Who phillies hired Joe Girardi today cold. I don't want her to me. Yeah, I don't have much else to say. It's I'm very high. They other names that were out there. That's probably the one that excited everybody the more exactly, and I think he was the best choice. I don't, Louis, you know who GE Geardi is? No, too young. He for the he played for the Yankees, for many others. That's his series. That's his downfall. Yeah, that's his downfall. He played for the Yankees. He managed the Yankees. You're gone, Dude. His tenure coaching career, he's never finished below five hundred. Yeah, never finish season. He's won. Phils haven't been ab over. I've wandered in four rings, three rings. Every one is a coach or one as a manager. R I should say. The Internet exploded today when the phillies announced that chart, because Girardi's the guy the fans wanted. Yeah, absolutely, we would have been happy with madden, but having a pedigree like like girardi named, the people know. So even the biggest signing, though, as far as so a couple days ago the phillies hired Brian Barber as you're scouting director. On the Ang was the Yankees guy. Yes, so guys obviously got ive and Helen. I think that part of the signing of Girardi. That was the catalyst. He probably said a listen, if I'm going to be here for a couple of years, I want to make sure that I have the guy that's out there because, like the scouting department, all feeds through that guy. Like he knows other teams for trades and shit like that. Like he wants somebody in here that he trust, because I don't think he trusts mcfail or Clintack, because I wouldn't. Well, I actually made the mistake is saying GM and when I was doing the Post Real Quick and my dad made a comment like gm Girardi. But it's that. So now you got the manager and you got the head of scout in and is that in the next year to start to squeeze? And you do see this is the sign that clintext going to be out? No, think just girardy have a big enough name to do that. No, no, I don't think that little kids loves CLINTECH. No, I don't know that. I'm not saying Girardi, but if you can get his boy promoted, do you think that Brian Barber would be interested in moving into that position? Now? I don't think it's that. No, okay. Well, two things that that are directly related to this. I think what the phillies need to start doing is exactly what they did with this guy from the Yankees. They need to because obviously the people that they have in house can't do the job. And we talked about this pay for where there have only been two errors in the last pushing fifty years where they've grown their own talent and brought them up and actually one with them, and that was the mid to late s s culminating eighty and...

...then in a wait with those guys. I think what they need to do is they need to start looking at all the teams and finding not not the guy, not the Generalman, but assistant general managers. That's the ones that are good. Like when they snagged Mike carbuckle from Atlanta. Now they get this guy from the Yankees. That's what they need to do. They need to look at other teams identify guys in those organizations that are that are smart, that make good moves. You know, talk to talk to different people, find out about them. You're not going to hire another team's GM. You just not. So you go to the under links and see if you can snag and come the assistance right to the Nag a couple those what teams are bringing up talent that that are good and you, you know, you go to those organizations and try and get those guys that are that are out in the field. Looking at these guys. And the other thing is this is, I think, clearly a middleton move signing Girardi. I don't think this is a clint tacker or mcfail move. I think they, especially mcfail, wanted show war. So where does that leave these two? Are they entitled only? Well, that's there, kind of. I was asking with the Brian Barberton. Yeah, now you got you got guys that have a history. Yeah, and and and bigger names. Yes, back to the loyalty. Yeah, even the show. Right, so they weren't. They dropped the loyalty to Gabe. How loyal is Middleton to these guys? Right? Was He sold a bill of goods with clint pack and all the analytics and and apparently girardi walks around with a binder in his hand. But the guy at least played the game. Think that he has the numbers to show him and the help him make decisions. But he's played the game. He knows. Yes, when he's in the moment catcher, which is the most important position on the field, and he can get in Clin text here and go, yeah, I see those numbers, but you ever see this kid on the field? Right, right, go deferent. That's exactly all the all get together on the numbers and say, Hey, this is what makes sense. Situations come up a blah blah. But in the moment that's where Gabe failed. Yeah, game went stinks. It bad instincts and I think they recognize that and they tried to micromanage him to try to avoid certain mistakes that he couldn't prevent himself from making, like they've lost so many games under game by bringing in position players to pitch. It's freaking stupid, like I don't know whose idea it was, but your power hitting first basement, batting leadoff for seventeen games and your friends stupid sucking pelt from Steve. You don't know that stupid, that that that those two move when they put askins and Harper one too. That's the worst where they ever made. That was so stupid. I mean, but I lost it was when they decided that, because unless somebody writes to tell all book and there's a bunch of shit that we didn't see, I want to know what the story was with Franco. I need some kind of answer, because the guy comes out like one of the big things that we talked about was a plus that you were going to have a guy in the aidhole who was going to it's twenty five phone runs. MMM. Like, defensively, I don't care what you try to convince me, he's a better third baseman than Rodriguez. Can you rogue kids taking that spot. They're like, Def not. savely Hingr. He's not a threat basement. And if you're going to try to tell me that it's a bad thing and that it's that it's demotion worthy, that the Guy Bat was batting two hundred and twenty and that's why you're sending them to the miners, you're lying right to my face. Right, right, because there's other guys in your team that were struggling your head as well, and you just kept marching them out. that. Yep, there was something else there that happened. Yeah, that I need to see this autobiography. I need Gabe to write that book, because I don't think Games a book. Right. There's just something there that I'm missing, right, you know. Well, he's got free time. Bring him in. Yeah, we'Remma and see if you wants upon a time. Over the summer, I heard that Gabe and showing Rodriguez were teammates at one time and Gabe was doing a solid to Rodriguez and trying to get him ten years in the League so he could get his full pension or whatever it is. And I don't know how many years Rodriguez has been in the league. But I heard that story over the summer on the radio somewhere. Maybe that was part of the reason why they kept trotting him out. You know, I don't see any other thing that was feasible to come up. Awful. It is awful because when when Franco was down in the minors, he was the next he was it. He was the third basement of the future and we went up to Trenton a couple times to see him play up there and he look pretty solid at third base. Listen, he's not with that deficiency, sure, but I think defensively he's better than anything they threw out there and he got it. He's got some pop. If the guy would have gone out and hit, you know, twenty five home runs, seventy RBI is and still bad. I don't give a shit if that's to twenty. Yeah, he's my aidhole right and and that was...

...the thing. You have a good left fielder back in them up. If you're worried about his defense, remember earlier in the city the first all right, yeah, remember, and earlier in the season we were looking at the lineup and we said, damn, they have two guys that were in the top for Hernandez and Franco batting in the bottom of the lineup that were batting in the top of the lineup last year. Yeah, how strong is his lineup going to be? I remember seeing reports that this could be like one of the first teams to have multiple thirty hope run hand. Yeah, that's yeah, my biggest problem with game, and I said all time on our show, was that he managed the game the way he played it. He managed the game like a usual untility player. Yes, they just if you look what we need now. Let's figure out what we need now. I don't know. I don't know. It's canary played like four different positions. Yeah, and the happening. No, he says, in basement. Yeah, or and I liked them, in center field. No, not. He was okay center field. That's some cuestions. Oh, I know, but while when he's telling hit, here's thing to that. Also, we got screwed on the odouble Herrera because if maccutchen goes down and oduble has to go in the center field and but your every day center field are you're probably not in his banish head shape. You make those trades, you know, for Bruce and Corey dickerson and dickerson coming off the bench as pinch hitters. That you're upgraded. You're better there, like those were, and you know, small deals, but that didn't cost you anything. Like you still make those deals, but you're just better from a pinch hitting standpoint and you're not trotting up Brad Miller and Friggin Sean Rodriguez. Yeah, honestly, Doctor Brian Doc he says the Franco was doing well until Gabe started messing with him in the in the line up. Yes, spotting a lot of moving them up and down. He was doing fine. It eight. Yeah, I agree a hundred percent. He was. He's like you said, he's your eight whole hit. Or what do you expect out of your eight whole hair? Right, not what he would have gotten out of them. You got a lot more than what was providing, a lot more than your typical aid whole hitter, I think. Yeah, they twelve home runs through June. Right. Yeah, he got hot at one point that it's like May, and he was at like seven or eight, like he ended up with. Did He have twenty five plus or did he get right go? Yeah, we'll not. No, if he hit fifteen I'd be shocked. Is that what it was? Because they pay sound of the miners feeling out a line up. Yeah, and then they wouldn't play him even when he did come back up right. Or they would call him up for a couple days and then send them back, send them back. Yep, like I'd be surprised if he hit fifteen home runs this year. But it's just it's things like that. Was the reason that, like, I didn't like Gabe. I didn't like gay because I didn't like his brand of baseball. Whatever he's selling, I'm not buying it right in like that, chip Kelly them, I'll be now. Chasojety, you I agree with you on the SESAR. Yes, I do. To for Kingary at the second big second base and beat done with it. He hit. He hit two and thirty four for the year. He had seventeen home runs. Leventeen. There you go. Doesn't say as Urbis and sing the second the battle on to the head before my country got hurt, which I'm stop. He played a hundred and twenty three games for them, had ninety one hits, seventeen doubles, seventeen home runs and fifty six RBIS. so He'd been right where I said he was, he'd be with a bit of the twenty. Five to seven, sixty two seventy home runs are sixty to seventy R BIS and I'm okay with that. He at two thirty four. Yeah, the difference in between him and hitting two hundred and seventy is like a hit more a week. Right, like, where's your logic in that? I guarantee you pull up. I think Shawan Miller was battened like the below the Mendoz aligning like one hundred and eighty four or something. Here's a question from doc. My answer is no. Well, do will be on the team next year? No, no, no, I don't think so either. I'm not sure if he's ever back in baseball. I'll be back and well, get back you. Oh yeah, they that someone's gonna bite the bullet and take them. Yeah, yeah, there's some scumbags in it. He got that right. Says are here to go. Okay, at Second Yep, he either put them in the minors. I don't care if you put him in the minit no trade him to some Showan. Rodriguez played seventy six games last year. He had fifty six too minutes. Twenty five. He had twenty five hits, five doubles for home runs, twelve our biyes. This is the guy that you had playing over Franco and that he isn't bad. What was it he said that is said? What did he say that everybody got burned up about over the season? I just saw how we do something like that. Wash man, he said something stupid and peep and everybody was that's not what you say, and in any towns. I was season. Yeah, he was another one who came out, had an issue with the face, with the fans. Yeah, it was. Was it after a home running hit? Who Joan Riguez?...

He said something stupid about the fans. Yeah, and then he was getting the the Bronx Chair every other game. He got even more annoyed by it, because you don't just say that tecially, not in Philly. Oh Man, Dj just said the charges were dropped. I Guess Meeting Oh do Bal they were dropped. They were, yeah, but it was dropped, I believe, because she wouldn't testify against them. Like the evidence and everything was there. It was not like like they did their own internal investigation and said we don't care if she dropped. The charges are not. We you know what you did. We know that you're guilty of it. Next, you're going to tell me they're still together. You think me walking out of the the courtroom together? Yeah, I remember watching the video the two of them coming out. Seriously, I'm a super that was her. Yes, that's it. That's a joke. That's a woman without a PRENUP. YEA, where they're not married, art not? She's gone. I don't know. Are Not matter as being more psarchastic today now that? Yes, but it's it's spottling. She's looking out for her pocketbook, all right, she wants some money. I'm sorry, by will happen again? Sure I was more surprised that it. Do. You guys know what his real name is? Google. Yeah, it's not a double. Oh double, not doubly. Now, I don't stupid. I believe it didn't meet angry as how if I would have never found this out. Les See you at the Court. It's like Patrick or something. It's David, Oh man, David Herrera is his name. Where a noble must be a childhood nick neighbors. No idea. I don't even what the fucking new double is part of my friend I've had. I don't know if you guys care. We do on occasion. I just do so good. Dj Just said exactly what you said. They are still together. To left the Hort courthouse holding or House. They left the whouse. That's the Court House holding heads. She got this. We're not going to go there. All right. Is that a good note? That to finish, this shows us down. Yes, all right. So we got. Is this the record for the longest show you guys have ever done? It might be. Absolutely I think the before this was a buck twenty three. Good on. Yes, this is got that. We got pushing, Dan. We're pushing two hours. Yeah, Yikes. Well, it's ever been on everybody's asking. Isn't a Piss your bedtime? It is, and I'm DJ said, yeah, it's a school night. It is all right. I'm a noeod. Probably should have played the sponsor tag again if I could have. All Right, folks, thanks for hanging late night with us on another episode say the BOOT first podcast. Check US out of twitter. Say The boot first, obviously for the poach watching this on facebook. You can find this on facebook. Thank you, Steve. Cracked Bell crew catch. These guys are Wednesday nights. Listen for the next episode of the Lima Project. I'm a project, I'll get it right. L'ma beans, think I'm hym a beat. Thank you, Andrew, for coming in deek as always, as always, as always. All Right, thanks for checking out, folks. See you next week. Go Bird's.

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