Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode 1 · 3 months ago

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ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Jim and the guys are back to reflect, yell, and talk about the Philadelphia Eagles Season after the loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Was this season a success or will Jalen Hurts be on the hot seat. Howie Rosenman gave his endorsement for Jalen Hurts as the starting quarter back but we all know what that is worth. Fly Eagles Fly. Can the Philadelphia Sixers ever trade Ben Simmons?

 Jim and the guys go through all the possible trade scenarios before the NBA trade deadline. Or will Ben Simmons stay right where he is at ? It's time to look to what's next for the Eagles and for Philly Sports.

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No good evening folks, welcome to another episode of the say to boot first podcast, coming to you live from beautiful downtown will the Grove in the lovely crack Bell Production Studios. On this fine Thursday evening we ever ready's home and warm. Thank you to our sponsors, from start to sponsors. First forget you guys around the table. Thank you too, Mamam is. We had some fine pizzas tonight, a little square pizza, little plain pie. We had some cheese steaks tonight. Good cheese stakes, boys, that bad. Where that's there are pretty good cheese stokod cheese stakes. Thank you to POPs McCann's whiskey keeping US hydrated. POPs mcid's fine whiskies at our main sponsor, insure phillycom, at Maloney. For All your insurance needs. Check out insure phillycom. Up to ten quotes in about ten minutes. We got you covered, all right. This is Jupe Marcus. To my left. I've got the older states. Been Back in studio tonight after a week off last week. D Good evening. What's up to his left, all decked out in the sixer city city swag. City Sakes, Smitty, say that three times quick stays with some Shitty, Shitty Swag. Twitty, it's some POPs in you. Let's go on. Tom's up, man, it's up to his left. We had to Din Dju going on to his left, where in his baker gear once again, Andrew Martin. So stop to his left, furiously on his IPAD, probably watching tick tock and not using it for statfle you said, Brody Marcus. We're looking up there. They're in intense game of rocket league, not cheese, and just looking for the Prom and you guys into the it did a green room behind a glass, keeping US lide. We Got Nate Moss, Muney Moss, what's going on? What's up? The we're here, we're live, going to get into it. We were all thumping our chests. That's what we do, though, right, yeah, for we aren't paid to be objective. We aren't paid at all. Right, so you're getting, you're going to get the Eagles Lens when you guys don't get paid for this, not getting paid, but you are. You're on a contract. You guys gotta get need to work this contract yet again. Yeah, so, yeah, we were all pulling for a big eagles win. We thought there was a Chitz. You don't know if any of us were putting the mortgage on it. No, tamp it was definitely the better team. We got em barrassed, guys, let's let's be honest. We got embarrassed. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean when push comes to shove, like we all sat here and said last week we have a chance, we have a chance, but in reality I think all of us knew that you're playing the greatest quarterback of all time. HMM, and we and even and he just he can, doesn't matter what weapons he has, like he's just so good at adapting to change. Gannon didn't do a good job, as far as I'm certain. I know they sacked him a few times. I don't think the defense did a good job of like, I don't understand, first of all, why Darius light was not shadowing Mike Evans the entire game. I also don't understand why there's a cushion. There's every time I sat, bend but not break. And then also, like hurts was horrible right, and you know I feel about hurts and and you know, I still believe he should be the quarterback next year. A hundred percent however, again, I hate to say this, but like they went down seven nothing. Then they went down and they abandon the run after the first drive and everybody knows, including me right as a hurts fan, that he is not there yet as a quarterback. Right we don't know where he's going to get. But like to put the ball in his hands against a veteran defensive coordinator and tod bowls, which you knew was going to throw the kinch and sink at that at them, and expect him to win it just kind of it wasn't happening. You know what I mean? And I also think like people, there's a lot of eagles fans that, you know, want to jump to all these conclusion about all these massive changes that be need to be made. At the end of the day, we lost to the team that won the Super Bowl last year. We walk lost to a team that has a great defense. Of Anything. I think we can learn from them. Mine backer place huge. Yeah, they're linebacker place huge. You know why? It doesn't matter if their secondary sucks, because I get pressure from the front seven. Yeah, yeah, I mean that. There was always Jimmy Johnson's right. Jim Johnson's not a lake have a good front line and if we have a good secondary right, you don't need the linebacker. They do it a little different than your Tampa, but they're like you saw some of the playback, you saw some of the film, but down like Baldy, they just didn't respect hurts. His arm sure and rager. So they were like, whoop Whoo, put one wom with regular and hurts gonna try to throw from him. Go ahead. But I watched boldly do the couple breakdowns and it's like yeah, Hey, they started up on the line centative field. He's not going answer box everybody in on the sides and they just they confuse the hell out of him. I think this day, whatever they wanted ready, even the formula a year to beat this Eagle's offense and the bus, you know, expose them for who they really are. And they took away the run game by packing the box, putting nine...

...guys up with the line, sometimes ten, and, like you said, that one on one outside coverage with whoever, and they for starts to beat them and he just couldn't. And the other thing is he not making excuses, but he definitely doesn't. Did Not have the the moves in the pocket like you did. You could tell he didn't run the ball a lot and that tells me he's bothered by the ankle injury. I'm not saying that's an excuse, but I think you would have seen hurts run more on Sunday. He didn't even want to run, like he would want to stay in the pocket and throw the door somewhere. He threw the ball up for grabs and like what the hell are you doing? Like, if anything, get down and try to run or drop it off. So like I don't think he was confident in himself and where he was at, which is a problem. Then to me, is like should he should have played afters hands? I don't know that, man. Don't man a side like if you're I'm sure the doctor said he's not going to hurt it anymore, or we don't think you are, or they would have said that play. But if you're the head coach you want to give the kids first playoff experience, you're not going to. You don't think you're going to win. You think you would have won with minshew. I think it tells you more about what the what the team field they mention. That's what I think it tells yeah, I think it tells you a lot, with all these mintu maniacs and Philadelphia right saying Oh, yeah, like, Oh, they would. I like the I'm not buying it. Mitche has no army either. I don't think there would have been much of a difference. I don't either. Shoe was out there and and a big problem with that game was there were there were no adjustments right on either side of the ball. I agree. You know, like you said, Jim, they pack the middle, they took away the run and they dared you to throw over the middle, with which they knew they weren't going to do. They took away to sidelines, and yet troy acheman pointed out numerous times that there was soft pressure, soft coverage on Smith, they played off them and instead of taking what the defense gives you, which Tom Brady does. If you're going to make me thinking dunk, sure I'll take twelve plays to go down the field, thirteen plays to go down the field and take six minutes off the clock and score touch down like Gronk. Right, sure, I'll do that, no problem. Right. Why can't the Eagles do the same thing? Take the you know you don't have to have chunk plays every time. You have to gain positive yardage each time. You have to put yourself in manageable situations. On third down. You don't want the third and all, you want the third in five or less, something manageable. They didn't do anything to put themselves in manageable situations. They didn't take what the defense gave you and the defense didn't make any adjustments. They played off like they did all year. They put very little pressure. They didn't get any pressure on Brady until they're were the right side of their line collapsed. Yeah, due to injury. Yeah, that's the only time they got any pressure on Brady. And you know, other than that, they made they did nothing and they made no adjustments on either side of the ball to do anything, to make to put themselves in a position to win or to at least be competitive. Remember too, with this seagulls seem they're young teams right. Lot of it's inexperience. Sure, with adjusting. Sure, and you know, you saw, like you said, what the bucks were doing, taking with the defense is given them. The Eagles, you know, they're not experienced. All the right lies button they're they're inexperienced as head as a head coach, but they're not in experience that as coaches. Syrian, he's been in the League for how many years now? You know and and you you if you're not paying attention when you're an assistant to what the head coaches are doing or a defensive coordinators doing, then you know you you shouldn't be in a position where you're a head coach. You know, you you have to learn as you're as you're an assistant. All right, you have to prep yourself. If I ever get fortunate enough to be a head coach, I need to pay attention here and pick up things. You know, you you hear people, you hear artist, you hear musicians. You know, how did you formulate your own style, this and that? Well, I just listen to other musicians, you know, and I got a lot of advice to you know. It's fine to pick up things from other musicians, but create your own path. And coaches got to do the same thing. You pick up things from other coaches and your head coach and staff. Why? You're right, you're assistant, but you got to be ready to form your own paths when you get that job. I get all that, but at the end of the day, the box are just so much better team. And sure, that's the bottom line. That's that's the bottom bottom line. There are more talented team. My biggest problems that we abandon everything that worked and when right back two weeks, one, two, seven. Yeah, I agree with you. started. We went back to the stupid yeah, use did it? Well, did they? Did they go back to it, or was it just taken away from well, now, I think the boss, they were very good job of king in on our but I think, yeah, I think. I also you got into a seventeen up and hold. Yeah, kill. So you have to start dancing at that and the pot the special teams upon her. Yes, SABA,...

...see. Yeah, yeah, that was a joke. Given the best quarterback in all time, like you said, so many great feel position. You're not going to win the game like that. They the other thing that I noticed, and I agree with everybody, like the arm strength. I don't think it's as big of an issue as the other thing that I see. What hurts hurts needs to and this is I still think this is going to come with progressions and practice and running the same offense. He doesn't get the ball, ball out quick enough, like you have to make quick decisions, like yeah, on that devante Smith touchdown. I know, I know, people say it was arms right, but I don't know. I think it's decisionmaking. I also think you make an offense next year. We're like you. Also, like Mile Sanders. I've seen it. Do it a pen state, like if there's not, if you know that you're taking around the run game, then get the ball out quick with quick drops. Use Devante Smith with quick slants, like he has to work. What I'd like to see hurts work on and the coaches this summer's like work with a stopped clock and almost big. All right, dude, like here you got run the route. You got this time to get the ball out, because if he can get the ball out quicker and they can move down the field and deep, AL's not as big of a proud lack of targets that Smith got. The first ridicular that was you think can leave the offense start? When did the offense start moving? And now, well, God, and the same cool right tip it bait kind of peeled off a little bit. They got they lost interest, all all that, but the offense got rolling when they got the ball to an excuseable to not get him the ball in the first he should have gotten the ball in the first drive. It's ridiculous. And you're talking about Dak and dunk. All right, if they're giving him a two yards, absolutely get him a quick screen and he's the type of player who can take it another it's ninety yards. Like give him the opportunity, broke county town opportunity. We saw Quaz do it multiple times last year. Why not do it again with him this year? And when they're given you that, yeah, it just made us sense. It's I felt the whole team was in decisive I said it in our group chat and like I heard, if you smite that that interception wasn't arm straight. Yeah, it was frone ahead of Dante. Don't they would I come back and get it. But as soon as you see that defenders slip, you got the other one throw the ball. The other ones double at Hawkins, Quiz Watkins Adam up to scene. Like trust him. Trusted decisionmakers early on. But that's what I'm saying. Like the Armstrength, I think is overvalue, because you've seen him like there's a couple that like even in the Washington game, and even on Tampa, like when he needs to throw it, he can throw ad and I don't know, but out of his pay was but on they were quacked. But yeah, yeah, there's a lot of air on some of them. But I also think, like make it simpler for him. If you know that that depault's not you're gonna have to take a couple shots a game. Yeah, the ball out of his hands quicker. move the chains, like you said. But, Brady, that's what Dallas Goddard should be able to do. He should be moving to chains. I like that's that's why I also think it's critical to get a wide receiver capable opposite to Vante Smith. That that and I think that helps. Chitlin hurts to ebody's all. Boy's not a passer. Now, if you build the offence around it will help. And you also need a running game. You know how much I feel about miles sanders. Another in Hes got to run the ball north to south. I'm you can't bound yourself out back. I might be hopping off the Mile Sanders. Well, they're going to keep them for one more year. They will, but he didn't. I think he's done. I think I think he's broken. I love that US going to be a ego next year. Bird. You think there's no value. So why would you get rid of him? And he's you know what I mean, like you're not even going to get a six or seventh round pick for a guy that's make him one would point six million. You should. I think they'll hold on to him. He's I think they will. So I don't think he's going anywhere. Like his injury. Are just pilot. I agree. I mean that's the problems of problems. been hurt every year. That's a problem. You can tell, like the dude just I don't know if he's just indecisively. You say, yeah, he's probably jump something down, dances. He dances right then to put my finger just lacks that one thing that he just he lacks see on a running backs ha the version, the visions be the birst. I think the birst he has, but I'm saying like when you hit the lie well, yeah, great, north to see vision, because some of his cutbacks it's like why did you come back right and decisiveness? Yeah, it's just because he bounced. He dances around that one. In fact, there and it's at and I think so'll the potential with miles sanders is there. I just eat. I just don't think. I think he's always looking for the big play instead of again taking what the deal, taking what you can get. If you're only going to get two to three yards, so be it. Stop looking for the fifteen. You probably also probably going to see a different mile standers next year because he's a contract. He want to get paid. Right. That's the thing that the eagles have to be careful of. Like if he has a huge year, that doesn't mean give him the batch. Is why I thought they would run him into the ground this year. Right. They mean have the appetition? You said, like what Hap if he was they might all they might try to go to him and try to get them on the cheap to that's kind of like the eagles out. I think what they'll do this year's is run him into the ground. He's not a lead back. He's got he's got to be a backup somebody. I'm trying to think of somebody, like it's like spros right now, when I no, no, I'm turned about how they use him. Like you remember when spur roles was great, when he got the ball. Maybe what you know, like seven, maybe ten times, but then he started to get where down. When they start to make it...

...him the focal point, I think they need to have to number one back, so most options. So Sanders can't be the lead back. I got it be. I think it needs to be like a Cleveland, like a job hunt, or like that's that's a don know what to know, more like a Ronald Jones. That's a Burnett. No, there's I'm a lot of teams have two running backers are capable, three ones that that are solid. That you named Browns, Minnesota, Minnesota and Minnesota the box. Other than that, I really can't think. Maybe maybe the you gotta figure out what you want this team to be. If you want this team to be a running team, then yeah, you probably do need to do they tried to Jordan, Howard and Sanders. It just stay there. None of them could say. I think they need to like that. They gave Boston Scott one carry that whole game. Yeah, well, they just had what he do? They scored thirty. Right. Well, they just think garb and a game agree a game like that, you can't really. I also think Greg Ward should have been playing. I don't know if he's hurt or not, but like he's a little bit about hurt. Yeah, like more capable than riguer. But I'm telling you, like right now, a wide receiver makes a big deal and I also think not. I mean got her is you pay got it like a number one. So I'm not saying you have to go out and get another number one, but the eagles always have been successful and they have to pass catching tight ends. I don't think stole does it. I don't know about Jack Guy, like I do like tyree Jackson, but now he's out. So, like, you know what I mean, like maybe somebody like that, a possession tight end. You mean, like yeah, I don't know road now it's not Dick er any better, but he came back. He's wide receiver needs to be at the top, whether it's in the draft, which I prefer not to. I'd rather have an established them draft of wise free agent and established free agent, and there's plenty out there. I didn't ask you, guys is. Well, y'all really surprised at that tape of game, like we surprised at that a little bit. I was a little bit. I thought we were going to be at least competitive. Thought they would have put up a fight, a better you know what surprised me? I'm going to be honest with you, and I it doesn't change the whole game, but that that initial call where we would have had them three out. I'm not saying it changes the game, but that it surprised me that they gave Brady that call because there was really not there. I tell you what, maybe, but there was nothing there. Like, I think what pissed me off of the most was barnette pushing, the lack of fight that the seam showed when they were on there, when they were rolling into the playoffs, and just call them out that flat. It's like, but what happened is team, but the same thing happened the week all what the same thing happened the first game. This was a complete repeat of the first game. Yeah, but there it was a different circumstances. There are different players. You guys said though, different team, they heard into the day, but it was the same. It was the same exact scenario. They were down quick fast. I'll tell you what, any second half team and you cannot do that against the Fox right again. So you're right. I thought in that second hey, if when we came out on the three and out. We got the bucks on a three and now and then regular pubbigger and muff. I really thought that was going to change. Yes, that was a huge turning point. I agree. We have his great if position. Yes, because hee H it, he within reach. It was early in the third quarter. They was still seventeen. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. Ds. I thought that if ruined, even if we just maintain possession with no return, you're getting. That could have made a difference in the gates. How about how is dawn? So you go down, score, touchdown the house. Seventeen sets within reach. Our defense as bad as they were, and they made stops when they had to. There was a lot of three an ounce there were. There were brainy to bring that sacking. Great. No, he did not, not an if you let him take his time and get back into rhythm, which they did, eating full stops when our offense could have came and came. Yeah, there was. What was it to start the half? The second half? was there? Two? Three, three, straight, three an ounce. there. I don't and they got five for Tampa Bay. I only got the sacks. Yeah, five, there's there was another turning point with his fourteen. Nothing, but I guess, like two or three minutes before half, I want. I guess is what it was that got our drop. was horrible. Yeah, that, but and critic that gets you points. I'm not saying that you scored touchdown. That gets your points before half. And then after that would made it worse as than he had. I think devante Smith opens and that was it. After that, that was it. And then they got another field goal. Chances Seventeen, nothing were there. The chances were definitely there. That got our pass. I'm not like you know, I know we text on your like there's no guarantee scores, but you get the ball. That guy wanting should have got at least two, three. You get at least three points. He's good for one of those good right. You go down. They have fourteen for a crucial drop a game. I mean, I still don't understand to why Syrianni gave the ball to Brady to start the game. I wouldn't have done that either. I would have analytics. Yeah, I wouldn't have said, and you know who's big on that, Lori. Yeah, but I I would. If the if the goal was for us to keep the ball out of Brady's hands. I would have took the ball first and try to have a long drive. I wish I could, let go back to the podcast when we lost the Tampa before and listen to it. Yeah, again, because I felt like it's the same. That would have been good to do for last week and this week. Yeah, it would have beack on what we said. Oh, what would you say before in the first Ye, would have been good. I am going back in listening to some of our...

...old podcast. Wait where? Because that Cuz I had CUZ I hot. We're going to get smoked. Like I knew that. We're going to get smart here for the Tampic Week, because you were at the game. Was a Thursday night game. Yeah, but we came on the week after. Talk about it, right. Yeah, yeah, here for some you definitely touched on what do we know? We have to be coming on Wednesday that? No, I don't know. I don't think you've ever come in in a winside. Oh, that's right. Maybe even. Yeah, I don't think he touched on it. There was a Thursday night game. We kind of just award we black we blacked out. Yeah, right, probably like that. Watching the F was like five an hour or something. At that point right we're like yeah, yeah, we had no chance. We got a no shot. Yeah, because I played the the vixman man John No shot now, yeah, yeah, I'm listening to some of the old podcast from the season so well, I have like a season wrap up with some of the wonderful statements that were made on this this this team throughout the season. We started talking about the future and what they need. Let's hit on the number one position here, qb one. We've all said that he's going to be the quarterback next year. I don't think anybody's I don't. As much as I want them to be. I don't think that's a foregone conclusion at all. I don't. I don't you think that gets written in stuff. I don't think it's written in stone at all. And I think like if, if the opportunity were also Wilson was on, comes in and it's like I want to blame in Philly and like, or if a team that like Houston, that says Watson says he's going to go there and Houston's like will take hurts. I don't want it to happen, but I don't think anybody should be read too much into how he's saying. Yo, he's not going Anywhereyeah, I don't beliey it because of that. I'm just saying it because I don't want. I don't want for the cost of three first round picks. I'm with you. I don't want Russell. I don't want Rogers Watson. If he didn't have the legal issues, I think that's almost the best name. Dumb. You right, giving he's still young enough. If you think this team is good enough with a quarterback, you don't think that's Super Bowl ready? That's the question. So are you willing to sacrifice the opportunity like this is a once in a lifetime franchises don't get three first round picks? Well, that's the thing that I think people want to think about to like, if they don't drip, if they don't make a quarterback move now, knots and and chances are, like you said, like probably better chance of five thousand and fifty two hurts as the guy. But if you don't make it now and you become a wild card team again next year, you have wait them again. I'm I don't know. I mean when do you when do you go out and get a quarterback? At that point because you're not gonna have the ammost like I feel like if they're going to do it, it has to be now. If that's what they want to do now. The opposite thing. You could try to get a pick four hundred and twenty three, but there's no guaranteed that that team that you trade with isn't going to be decent. Is like you got to think logically. I don't know what they think. You know, I think that they value hurts his leadership. I think there's obviously errors that he needs to work on, but I agree with Dj like if a move comes, I how he's going to make it like a hundred percent. If Watson says he's coming here and the chargers are cleared as much as we might be, like I don't know if we want these guys. So go in to get he's going there. Get the guy. He's going there now, like Derek car better not happen. Like that's not enough grade right. I don't want there. I don't get the Jong or no, I don't get the Dirk car hype. I really don't. I mean, look, he's he's okay, Bob Average. Now I don't know. I think he's I mean he makes spid, he's a bold everybody may think he's. You don't think he's above I agree with you, or at about average. Jimmy G I like. He's a very good game manager. But what are you trading for these guys? And I know the I given a first age of the quarterback isn't as important as other but like right now, the oldest quarterbacks, Brady's about forty. Can Be Forty two next season for for cheese criuse. Yeah, I got think he was in college times in College. I'm trying to make myself younger. But Russ is going to be thirty three coming all his worst season and injuries. Hurts is one of the youngest in the League right, twenty three. Yeah, he was the youngest quarterback in they all right. So let me ask you this. Do you think this is to the team? Like do you think you can win with the style that hurts is going to have to be? Do you think, well, that's Super Bowl contender, what hurts? No, if we, if you get him that, thanks, that number two receiver. If you build an offense a on hurts and he works on his game the way he needs to, which we think we which which there are things that he in his game that he can work on that like, aren't out of his reach. You know, right, mechanic reading. It starts as footwork and making the decision to throw the ball when not to wear the person. Here's a question I think you can build around. Who's The quarterbacks coach? Brian John It's Brian Johnson, the guy from Florida. He used to know, he used to coach hurts. And how can we, hear about him and nobody ever criticized love because he's kind of tied to the family. Heard. Well, yeah, you're just answered. Come on, say it. Yeah, you just can answer the question. I'm gonna be on. But you know, maybe they should think about, you know, making a change all here become. So here's the thing that where's they fulip Bo these days? He here's the thing that was interesting that they said like...

...if hearts comes back to the eagles, not like and again this is not making an excuse for hurts. Hurts comes back to the eagles, this will be the first time in the last seven years of his career which he's had the same course I say that coach. But yes, he's learned. Now you with think it's rebolts always changed an offensive court. I mean you figure, yeah, because you figure every off, everybody that's the album offensive through there is eventually a freaking coach, right, because everybody's like, oh, he's ready at Bill Obrians right, views now, right, and he was only at Oklahoma for a year, and you know what I mean. But like again, that I make excuse. So at all we you need to look at him and say, have we seen and we seen his ceiling, or have we seen his floor? I don't think you've seen his ceiling. I have we seen his floor? Yes, yeah, yeah, if we're saying some day in the giants game, no, no, never, this season. The body of work is his floor. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So he's not he's not going to. He can only approve. You can't get better, he can only get better, and that's what gets him better, because because you made the playoffs, Ya, Gurri's what gets him better is continuing. We only made the playoffs because they expanded. Cares? Get that right, they don't get get it. Let's get it straighters. All Right, who cares? What do you have to work on everything? Yeah, you should get better. Is Twenty three years old. There's but doesn't. But there's one thing that I'll say about hurts that you can't say about other superstars in this town. You everybody. Damn No, well, hurts is going to put the work in, whether he can do it or not. Damn No, well, damn well, no, no, he's damn well, do a great no, well, get on the show. Shut up. No, he's got me fired up. You the question. The question you guys, the question you guys got to ask yourself, though. The question you got to ask yourself is is are you willing to be patient it? That's the question, because that's the problem in this town. That's the problem. Have to be that's nice. That, because he is a four to five year project. He really is. Well, five years, no, for to reach his peak. He's got a lot to work on. Bro Every quarterback is a you can say it's so forty five. I look, I'm specifically with him for to five. I want to see you, but look, but think, but think, think about the lamars. Think like think of his breed of play, Lamar Cam you know, vic himself like that style of play. It takes those guys like Lamar made the MVP that year, but he really made the MVP because of his legs, right, because he ran for like one hundred yards, right. Yeah, you know, so that that's a rarity thing to do. But if you think about it, where he is now and how he stays in the pocket, climbs the pocket, how he throws right now, it's almost like he's holding the ball too long, right, and using his athleticism to get out of the way. But, but, but he's not there yet, right. He's not a finished prior takes for to five years to put that style of quarterback. He have to think of the style quarterback he is. Next year he needs to show, I won't say significant improvement, but he has to show a decent amount of him improvement next year. And if he stays the same next year, you gotta move then then, you know, then the yeah, I think, imagine, I think his ceiling is MVP cam. I think that's where he's at. That's hurts. Hurts. Yeah, that's it's wow, that's a huge sea. So, yeah, because they went to the Super Bowl, but but I'm but I'm just saying thinking his ceiling. He's not saying that next year. Now, I'm not saying next year, but I think that's the best he could be. His MVP cam the when. But the problem with Cam, yeah, is that it was one year. Yeah, it was just it was just one year. He gradually got better. But Cam's talent was so good at when he went MVP in the first four years, right, I think it was his fourth year. It was his fourth year, yea something. Yeah, but so you just think of that. They did that progression Super Bowl here. Yeah. So, yeah, that I think that's I think that's where hurts is going to be, because he reminds me he's not his athletic he's Cam and he's not. Obviously he's not as big as cam and they're not going to run him like Cam at the goal line like he's a running back. But the same body of work, the same, you know, kind of way he plays to me reminds me of like camp. But See, the problem is cant had a fucking can I just say cam had had he had a big arm. He just wasn't accurate. Mean, do you think he's? You think he's back then? That neat next year. Oh for sure. He earned for sure. For sure. Yeah, I think we all think he earned it, but we also know who's running the freaking operation. If he, if he was in a draft this year, he would be a top he would be one of the top three quarterbacks taking for sure, he probably be the top. I don't know if he be the top because you still look for that pocket passer, but I think somebody would take him out of the top three. It's change. He would be a first round pick this year, for sure. I think the game's changing, though. I think from a pocket's the first round playing. But yeah, I think they're looking for more. I like guys. But you've seen it, though, DJ. You've seen that. You've seen that type of quarterback and you see that type of quarterback play. Oh, and it doesn't always and it it never works. It doesn't. It's not that it doesn't work, it rarely works. I'll get you. It can get you some exciting regular season...

...when right, and I maybe a playoff. Right to right, I agree. So I'll you. A quarterback needs to be able to play in the pocket, right. It's a must. Let's how you win the game, right, because if you just have a guy that that looks off for one, two receivers and it goes if they're covered. You can't have that. That's rights you need to have. You need to have almost like a highbrid quarterback now, where they can do a little bit of both. You know, and I hold Steve Young up as as the prototype. So bad when you do that, though, because Steve Young is so good, I never no, no, I mean that's throne tones on. I'm not saying Steve Young to aspire to that. I mean that type of play, that style play, where he could do both. He could scramble to extend the play, he could run the game, you yards, or he can stay in the pocket. The other the other problems to is like, if he becomes a run first quarterback continues to go that route, he's going to going to continue to get hurt. Oh yeah, yeah, so that, yeah, that's like he's he's not a he's not a quarterback built for theorability. If he does that, that's what killed can I mean right, it's just just this is the the luck of Philly sports. Right. We have three first round picks and none of these quarterbacks really you're drey. That's that exciting. I got a guy, I said and I and I thought all three were going to make the playoffs. No, you could package them to get something. I look at it this way. We have three. Forget like the quarterback thing. I look at us, we have three first round shortage. Damn defense up. No, no, we have three first round picks, but it doesn't seem like any fans are like confident in that they'll make use of these three. I mean, I mean what how many other franchises would be like, oh, we got three first round pis, like, let's get the eagles. Fans were like, Oh, we got three fifteen, sixteen and nineteen. Even if you gave all three those up, you're not. If there's a top franchise quarterback, like just say look, I mean Trevor Lawrence isn't what we thought he would be. As of right now, not saying hey, well, all you got rid of somebody's still not giving you putting you in the top five, giving fifteen sixteen to nineteen. It's not, you know, it's like, but we're in limbo right. We're in a spot right now, limbo, because we're not sure about the guy that we have. We're we think he can be better, right, but like nate say, is it for five years? You got to wait. We're in limbo, but you got to be paid out it. Surround him with more down at that down. If you if you want him. Yeah, if you want if you hurt is going to be your guy. You have to be patient with him. And you know, I was talking to a friend of mine. He coaches quarterbacks. He has his own clinic and he does. He's coach some pro guys like he coached what was the Philly kid that's on the dolphins right now? Is Hurt will fuller. You know, he coached Africa. Yeah, he cold. He coached. He coached him, he helped him individually and stuff like that. You're ready for the league and all that good stuff. And he to and he said he dropped the bar on me and I was like wow, that's crazy. He told me he said Jalen hurts is great at winning, he's just not good at being a quarterback. And I think it's I think it's in I think it's true. Like the body that he hit, the body of work that he's put together, he's just a good football player, you know. I mean, yeah, now he's got to learn how to be a good quarterback. Yeah, and I think that's that's what we're saying, like, yeah, it's got all the intangible SISM is carried on this far. But now, yeah, now, you're not a brother, put it. And can we be patient with that, because that's that's what it's going to take. I can't think of a better fan base to have patients. Yeah, right, yeah, right, should be just fine. Tone. What are you thinking? Man? I said there. I just could say patience. We got tone weighting. They're just watching this. First question is tone. How much money did you make betting against the Eagles last weekend? He's the picture of patients there, tone, you were with me last week. You agreed with everything I said, but bad again, is what you do. He didn't want to go against his hometown. Yeah, HMM, yeah, I worked out or two six ERS and made to take Evan Turner. Yeah, yeah,...

Heaven Turner, two, ball, don't lie. Right, ball, never laughed here. Right, they know, they know. All right, tone. So we got divisional rounds this weekend in the NFL coming up. Yeah, we didn't even touch on that same Fran Dallas game, but we'll leave that B we're worried. We're getting past the past look up to the future, we look into the now. What are you seeing this weekend with these games? What do you got? I hit it, I took it. Huh. They have, they have very competent running backs there, but they just they just bring Debo in and I come on. So, yeah, he's a beast. He's just been doing it the whole hand second half of the season. Should turn regar in the demo. Yeah, please, I wish listen. He's fun and he's fun to watch. He's so fun to watch. I disagree with you there at tone. Just a this FYI. No, yeah, I think. I think greenbady's going to smoke them. I really don't. You know. They're going to lose either this week or next day. Yeah, I'm I'm looking. I'm looking at this game and I like saying friend, but they're hurt there. That's the problem. Say, frank got banged up in that last game, but it was like banged up the key contributors, like people you can't like get hurt. I think like Botha being hurt is huge, right, you know, I mean, and then Fred Warner got hurt too. But it'll both be back, though. Yeah, but they won't be a hundred percent. You can need to be a hundred percent in lambell against Green Bay. It's Fred Warner duncas. Wasn't he hurt? You know, he came back in the same puts up on twitter like all, good, thanks, you're worrying about me. Yeah, he's mean. Yeah, he's supposed to say that. Hold, but you know I mean. And then you got get in. Jimmy Stoke somewhat banged up to it's not like Jimmy came out of that unscathed. He got a little banged up as well. So Watch on facebook. I just had the greatest save maybe ever. I just almost spelled to beer. Called it out of Bood Devante Smith and it was. It was pretty freaking yeah, but I think Green Bay wins by a touchdown. I think Green Bay won win's and covers in this game by touchdowns. Didn't Green Base? They're just the Yo man. They're going to be hard to be that's why I said I think any may smokes. Yeah, like I understand that. I understand what Jim saying because I'm a probability guy. So when you look at the the body of work, as good as rogers been, he ain't a been that good enough, because he's only got one to one bowl. He only got the one ball. Here's the thing. So I think San Francisco's I mean I know that they played okay against aals, but I think San Fran sect, San Francisco Secondary, sucks. Like I think Davante Adams gonna have a field they'll find out this way. Yeah, I think they're gonna have a field day. So, so rodgers over. Yeah, yeah, I really must right green, and then I would look it over. I would look at I don't even look at it yet, but I would look it over. A divinely Adams. Rogers is two hundred and sixty five and a half. I would take that over. What's tone, Tom? What's it? Yeah, what's what's Adams is props. Oh, he gets it, though. Nice got him. That's a him. That's a good one. Oh, he's only thirty eight and a half. Yeah, he's good for a big play every game. You know, that's a good call. And what about Jenny? JENNIS has been coming, Jens has been sneaking around Juan Jenny. Yeah, he's been cops back to he's been sneaking a little bit random comes. That gets a safety blanket dude regardless, and then it looks like valved as Canton is doubtful to he's not even on these. I like. I like that Jenny's party. I like I like lazard. I have bizard in my playoffs as he's a deep ball for them to one polay could hit it. I just got no faith in Green Bay. They're gonna either lose this week and next week. Saw You, watch, you, watch eter. Arn'll come up week. Cross crawl off lambell. Everybody cried for me in my lace game. You get out of here. Am I am I missing some now he's not. I know shot. Yeah, I...

...got a prop bad. It was at five hundred and fifty. Was a six hundred. No, six fifty. It was U plus six five you when I got it. Green Bay. And why is? Why is I umerbo fifty and a half yards? Am I missing some? Eat more. I feel like you should be less. Who are you brand now? U? Fifty and a half receiving yards. Has He been killing it lately? Yeah, he's off and all. I feel like it's just debot. I feel like it's just Debo. Yeah, some say he's all and then kit'll and then horrible he's not horrible, but I then Kitt'll season. Yes, stop it, and then kittle will go off late in the game. I feel like. I mean they're top offense. That's I'm one of the thing away there are. They're a weird offense. I don't think they're where that. They they got this. They got players, man, they got all theirs, but it's just when Garoppler shows up, it's position less football. It's yeah, for the niners. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have to pull everything out. I even think land's place in this game. Maybe. Yeah, they got there. You good, got to try. There's a good prop lanes over fifteen rush yards. I'm mess see he's not even on here. Isn't he hurt? It still? Is He that thus hurt again? It is. Well, what's toe? Read that on Paul sect what's tone got for his official picks? We're throwing out all of our random yeah, let me throw shit against the wall. There's arms yet. Yeah, you got. You got debaux early because devos out for you and a half. Now, Nice money line. Yeah, yeah, I think the bills hits. It's hot of your hope side. It's one of the way I think bills are going to super bowl. Bills are plus one to eat stills tamping Bill San France. Dude, get that same France getting smoked. No, that would be aboment. I got. I got to be honest, Dude. I feel like Cincinnati could pull it off. I'dought I was just since natty saying free. I was just going to go I. Dude, guys, it's three and a half and Derrick Henry isn't confirmed to play. Yeah, oh, he isn't. If he doesn't, if he doesn't play out, I would jump on. I was going to say, should I hop on the street? I might see the Tennessee's and good team. They are good team. They are good tea to Jamar chase is freaking incredible. All right, all right, sue's in the sweet teasing this, because I'm looking at this now and and I'm thinking about tickle and that bangles funny line. tickle it, should I hold? Let's tickle it a little bit. tickle it. Yeah, I would tickle it. I'll tackle that. I'll tackle that funny line. Don't tell me, just don't tell oh my God, just tickle it. It'll be all right. So the one the one thing we did learn about this weekend that more football doesn't always mean good football, right the actually wild carver really is. She's great. The reban game almost was good, because I give that bullshit called the bagels. The Bangles Raiders game was the best way to start it off. But then we had our game, another patriots in New Engling game sucked. The Arizona game toys on. The Pittsburgh game. Yeah, I mean there were some bad football hit the pitture. I guess CEE was brutal. Well, I got to be honest with you. Arena Ram surprised me a little bit. I thought I didn't think that. The Rams. Yeah, THAT'S ARE gonna lose that rams for and you guys like, I don't know. I was like, but like that shit the Kyler Marie did where he threw the ball up like he looks brutal first, what the Hell's he doing? First playoff game for these quarterbacks, you know, yeah, deprekeeppare Kyler and genuine. Who had the better game? Well, really, I also think the cardinals are a totally different team, which isn't surprising, without Deandre Hopkins. M All, he's like one of these wide they see somebody of the playoffs to did Zach Hurtz have a big game? I mean, I know he oh, that's a shame. He got three catch of favors. So I'm saying that's a shame. Like he he should all refrain with chasing a ring. I'm not afraiding. Get the hell out of here. NOPE, nope. So I want to I'm gonna go with tone. I'm I know he teased it. I won't reveal it, just tickle it. If he's saying, if you like, plus money, well we're I'm dead. We're gonna happen. No, wait, I'm gonna tickle it now, probably just the case, just because gonna start calling Dj to tickle monster because I don't want to wait till my kid. I don't want to wait till tomorrow after noon or Saturday morning and see Alla dropping out here, Henry's back or yeah, the bangles. He's gonna tell some text chain. Yo, guys, that tickled it. We're gonna when he talks. So it's not my kid. Follow if you're not following tones, that tones takes on twitter, you'll find he's gonna reveal it later this week. I might have to bet. I maybe Tom Maybe I'm going to take a piece. Put up one of these three counter get fifty bucks for free. Better see it up in De Gender. It's like...

...you guys, we're not had a way. Wait, wait, I want to get to the get rescuse rile, I want to get me. How about Jim be like? I put fifty chick day. Jim Definitely trode me on. My God, I did shit out of me, like don't quarter, and the game was already over. Like he did. He haven't any face sets down. So I want to get into this with these guys, with the professionals. So do you guys, like you see everywhere now, and we might have talked about this again, all these people doing like these twenty five leg parley's, oh right, hitting them shit it hitting them. Hit. So I I do this today. I do the twenty like, but I piss like me off. Fifty cents on there just to see. Like last night I had an eleven, like parlay would like fifteen or eleven, like eleven. Guys get double doubles last how made you lose? I think I hit seven out of the eleven. That's pretty good. Yeah, but did you see the one that but it's only fifty cents. Do you guys do that? Do you guys ever do like just for the hell of it? And I know the levels. It's something that you guys are probably bet no, but you ever throw like five bucks on that twelve, like parley nice flex muscle must be nice. I must be nice. It's one of the best fillings in the world. Hitting a big parlor. Oh yeah, that's one of that sounds. My silly ass, my silly as, sits on my couch at about six o'clock at night. Fully I just starts going through the NBA Games. I'm like, yeah, he's calling scum score forty tonight. He's gonna score forty tonight. How any this beers are glasses of pops, are you act not? Not on a Tuesday night? Yeah, but thenny Bragg starts. He's like yeah, I just brought fifty. said it's right, right, right, yeah, but nate, the one you posted this morning, it was even that crazy. The one that got thirty four thousand dollars. They put a hundred. It was like Trey Young for threes in Atlanta. Win Terry Rose Year Twenty five points in Charlotte. Wind Luca dantage three three four plus threes and Dallas winds. Do put a hundred down and one thirty four thou. That's as it see. How to put it down them one one thousand eight hundred and seventy five. It's it's the real life. It's like a scratchy ticket. Yeah, going and buying a scratchy ticket felt like once I get started that, dude, I'm gonna get addicted and next thing you know, you gotta just something like it was some more Yo, that's a tone. You can't take it. I'm calling it scratchy ticket PARLATS. That's what I do. That's I say. You're my lottery tratchy ticket parley's nate. How much do you like in big games, like do you put? So? I'm sound like he's are play teaser player on and I do more straight bet so. But I've I get caught up in the parley game because I partly the hedge put a hundred on the B so, like, if I put for like, if I do like a fourteen parley, I'll leave the last game as a later game so I can hedge. So like I'll do so. I usually do only seventy five. I never do a unit. I usually do seventy five to win like six hundred. The think the here's the here's the strategy about parleys. Let me tell you about parley's. You need to put you need to have the one thing in your legs to get good odds. You have to have one dog. You got to pick a underdog. You got to pick somebody plus money to win. You have to write. If you're looking for that small bet, small when big mentality, like you said, putting fifty cents down, putting twenty, twenty hours down. You got to get luck. You got to get lucky, and it's just crazy how people people. I don't. I feel like people really have like the back to the future book, because they be hitting these parley, these parleys like I would never like this. How. How would you? What was your edge like? What did you see that made you bet that? You know, I mean because somebody, I saw this, the one, I think, the last big one I saw. He Bet Thirtyzeros on he bet it on the the chargers in the Vegas game and he bet Las Vegas money and Lost Vegas moneyline. Well, I want you win one point three million. Yeah, like, yeah, and it all look up at a time. Yea, these guys are like these guys are like whales. They're dropping a thousand dollars on a plus forty fivezero dollar bet. Like, I'm trying to see what I you know who. I think we touched on it last week, but the biggest mush ever is that mattress Mac. Idiot there. He loses a lot, he'ds Mac. Yeah, he's a Houston guy and he that's large amounts of tick on tongue. He he lost about three million on Bama. Yeah, it...

...was insane. Wow, he's the biggest mush I've ever seen. He bet on the ashrows more so than you. Yeah, I'm not betting millions of dollars. I Bet like ten, twenty boss. Still Most are you guys? You guys bet. You guys hit a couple or couple ones. I last year, me and Jim, we're on a hot streak with NBA's Parlay's and then it came crumbling down pretty quick, and then this year we hit one big one. But we're do. We're I thought I put a couple in for tonight. I'm trying to look him up and tell you guys. We're definitely do, though. But yeah, Jip Hims Hook, especially when I give you like your wrist free. You know, you bet is your but Leland. Do you know? My wife hasn't account her name like that. I've went so clue about so now I did tickle. You. Gotta Take Care of her to get those promotions. Yeah, you get free money. Yeah, all right, I'Ma have to do it. If I get free money, I'm doing it. They dropping. I'll promote you right now. We'll both get fifty baree from that promoting. I'm taking my own money. I help. No, I'll say no, no, no, it's like it's like a buddy. Late dollars. Yeah, it's like a buddy. Then I'll come. I hundred. If I send you a fan to length to join, I'll get fifty dollars and you get fifty dollars to play with, and I'll send you to draft. Kings will not and I'll get fifteen hours and you'll get fifteen hours. told me to not open up one for you because it's dangerous. It is. It is very dangerous, Mary. It's not gonna know. Oh, yeah, she hasn't listen to the show. Yeah, it's it's tone, and that's everyone's dangerous because you have it in the palm of your hand. That's what I'm scared. There's like there's games every day. Bro's care money. I've had. I've had some really, really, really bad degenerate friends that have bet like middle of the night. They'll bet on like, Chinese tennis there and it's bad and here's the case. I Better Chinese ten in anything about tennis and the middle. No, I bet them. I've been on tennis all the time. I'm like the middle. One night, though, can battle like yeah, I've been on right. I bet on golf coaches. I bet on golf. I bet on tennis, I bet on Baseball, I bet on you have seen. I've only ever done better. I'm almost a lot of stuff. I've only done the four major sports and you have my friend bets on NASCAR. I don't know how to. How how hell you do that? Ask any wins. I've done soccer, but only because I saw something. This guy's like you got a bet soccer. It's a no brainers. I did it. Hits now and hit that one time. But what was it? Women Soccer, because I don't even know even but tod I'm going to tell you when you get these big wins. This is I learned a really big lesson this week having the twin girls. We went prom dress shopping this week. So tone, with those big wins, start putting that money to the side. Yeah, that's that's not quite money anymore. No longer a college from that's not quite money. Yeah, it's problem dress fund money, maybe tone. Tone also has twins, so he's in the same boat as me. I'm just telling but tone tells to tell him as about on that street, that you got two sets of twins in that street. Something Water, I guess. Don't tell him as about your man. You gotta get gotta Bank Roll Management, Bank roll management, all right. Yeah, you guys can't send me house money. Send me that power point because I don't know that. Yeah, that's a professional you guys. You guys are very professional. Sick, one, fifteen, hundred, shit, s many language please. Yeah, but then I can't do my fifty cent twelve, twelve like parley's what you're telling me. Let mean you can. It's just like what's the point, Jim? I'm gonna hit one of these days. I'm doing we're do. That's what that's what they all say. I do. I'm do. What Thee? When we were at the phillies game, what was that guy behind us? This do was going nuts for a million. He said, yeah, he was a little. It was a little drunk, but I don't think why. You think he want a million dollar? He was saying, Oh, who, I want for a million dollars and he didn't. He was waiting for a score to come in. Late, late in the phillies game. It was the walk off when it's like about yeah, covered the bets. You don't know what they get. Yeah, you know, the best is the horse guys. To you guys ever go to Kassi, horses go heads, the hands on the horses. They got their paper. You here it's smacking. Yeah, come on, come on. So you're on the Horse, get up there three and then they tear them up after they lose and have a confetti. Perierman Jim, I don't know if you know this. On fandel you can see, I think you want to say to in front of your dad and how much you want. I felt. So I've I I didn't even know this. I've wagered over FIVEZERO...

...dollars, Huh, and I've hit for almost three grand. So you've lost over two grands. Yeah, I didn't even know your chuckle head. I'm right. Wait, I'm on. You hit for three, wager five. Why it says no, I'm my winning. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. My winnings are over Fivezero. My bets have total three thousand. So I'm up. I'm up. You're up to grand. Yeah, I'm up over to grand yeah, but how much you think? How much that I love. We're not going to the family discord here. Yeah, he said it. I'll save this ramps and shows. Letting Yell. I'm on the ride home. They didn't know that. I bet twenty dollars and fifty cents. I've won thirty two. Now I'm just saying. Maybe listeners in it and they all right when I hit any sod and I hit what he fifty said parlanes. I'm not. Probably else is rolling. Dice gone, baby new these new pair of shoes. Jimmy's gone. Girls need a new prop dress. Girls needed pro move proms, Andrew Start playing right. Enough of this you. Yeah, let's get some hockey in here. Flyers lose. Oh, that's a good game, because that's a that's a good play. That's a good play, tones, tones' good his hockey. Yeah, I don't bet my fifty cent bets. My followed tone. We had Fox write the empty netter last night. Saves this shots on goal. How much you win? Three dollars. Three dollars, all fun, Betty cents. I've been twenty five cents. I was hope now and that's his ice cream money at the end of the week. By how you think I'm paid for my pops? Yeah, he's like he's Mr Salt, like you guys. I hit on this bed. I just saw the reds code. I could take you to Reada's as long as you have the cue pot. Girls, girls, you can go to McDonald's tonight now, now, do know? And he's a big betty's in my I feel all night. So here's what. Here's how we're going to end the segment value. Men, here's how we're ending. The second you look, you can all line up the door to kiss my ass. When I hit big, I'll forget all your names other than tone in nate. There we go. There we go break my balls. Hey to bring a little cello. Man told her hitting on the roof. We need some lemon cell it. Yeah, all right, a toner all, I ton't thanks. Good luck. This weekend we're gonna take a break. Will come back a little bit of time. I'm going to talk about sixtures. Hang around, we're going to pay the bills. Will be right back. You listen to the Santa boot first podcast. Insure phillycom the comparison shop all the time. Can I do? What will the store brand see? Should I get a second is to it all this? Why not do that for your insurance? Yet? Why don't have someone comparison shop for you and the sure Philly drm who's like ten times select, pretty mutual and compass. Can Happen? New commercials owner agent Frot Maloney. We got likes top national characters. Just go to insure Philly dotcom same to get your photo. Mine. We'll call man one and five Jimmer your nine nine zero auto insurance. What are you every time nine zero only gives you the National Party. Do you recognizdates from a local company you can trust? Insure Philly, Doctom, put this one right here, right now. I'll give you a good yea. I wonder how much somebody would have hit on that, like Buck Simmons. Zero reads. All right, we're back another episode of say the BOOT first podcast. Thanks for hanging with us through the break. there. Thanks to insure Phillycom all your insurance needs. Get up to ten quotes in about ten minutes. Get Matt Malonia calling the MPM agency. Thank you a getting to momams for fantastic beach and cheese steaks and two POPs fine whiskey's only three bottles on the table tonight and one's empty. All I we're done with all the gamble and talk to we want to give quick pictus for this for the wild card or not, the wild card division vision rip. All right, we got a green bay versus. Say, Sam Fran what...

...do you got the Green Bay many? We're doing scores or just picks? Go Pack Oh damn, I was gonna say that's my Joel. Damn. All right, yeah, I was gonna take the packers. Packers, packers, Green Bay. Who you're going against? You are you said Green Bay. No, he's going against you his favorite player. Oh, I don't want to well then, but you thinking nate Iook is your favorite player? No, but all he's want them like. Okay, go on, Davante Adams, anytime touchdown. All right, Sammy's going gamy. Look at Your Dad's last comment. I'M gonna GO Green Green Bay to even though they're not. They're not make it to the Super Bowl, boys, and just telling you so. I'll go green bay for this week for my next game, Tampa Bay versus the rams. I was gonna call him there. Yeah, that La Ram's right correct. I'M gonna go. I won't sit Saint Louis Rich like. Well, the opposite way this time. I'm going Tampa Bay, Nate. I have two rules and betting. You don't bet against Michael Jordan. She's don't bet against Tom Brady. I'm actually passing the game. I can't. I like, actually liked the rams, but I just can't bet it. I can't bet against him. So I'm going to bet the stafford interception line. So did you stick to that when the Eagles Played Brady and Super Bowl? Do you bet the Eagles? No, no. So I've been against Brady four times. My biggest bet ever in my life was the Eagle Super Bowl. I was going to I was riding with the ship there. That was the that was the host. I was with my I was with my soon to be wife. She didn't know, but in my head I'm thinking if I'm a I'm a los his ring money. If I it's bet loses Batman. Oh Man, it was, and it was so great too. How they won. The game was back and forth. So it just put it took everything over the edge. But I'll put that was the biggest bet I've ever bet. Was the eagles. I'm lucky I wasn't on a needy snaps that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, out have been bet in the tuition all. I brother here. You get. That's a lot of tuition with the eagles, man. Yeah, you gotta lift. You got it. You gotta go down with the ship. And that one. They're in the Super Bowl. You never you might never see it again. Yeah, we'll see it again. I mean I think we'll see to get the how many times have you seen eagles at the bows? Just once, right, no, you were there in six. No, that wasn't. That wasn't a super bowl. Ja The championship. Seen all three. I've seen all three super bowls. One Win, one win, yes, and one one. He can await. One should have been but t be cheated. He didn't cheat. The knowing was the raiders. One bad. Yeah, it was twenty ten and it wasn't even that Cli, but it was. was. But was the raiders team good? That John Man Team? Right? Well, the Eagles beat the raiders in the regular season that year. Ten seven at the vet. Yeah, and but the raiders went into that game totally loose and care free. The Eagles went in wound like a rubber band. who was the players at back then? Who was on the raiders? who were Jols, while Kenny King did us in with those interceptions? Jim Plunkett was the quarterback. Tom Flora's was the coach because Madden had retired. Right. You know, I don't know anything about this era. Was Castle? Yeah, how I can't. I can't remember if day was that. How we was that? Know how we long was not on that team. Now that was. He was on the next one. YEA, how he's in s yeah, he was only eighty three. One. Yeah, I think Dave Casper was on that team. Who was the cliff branch was the wide receiver. They still had that. Also, offensive line. Would Otis is drunk and gene up Shawl, those guys. Jim Otto, okay, I know Jim. I'm sorry, didn't name is. Yeah, the defense. They had they had less star Hayes they had. I think they I think. I think lyle as Adam might have been on that team at might have been later, it might have been. He might have beated a Denver Bronco still at that time. Villosato, Jeremy, you remember that someone? I mean, I was only it was only kree yeah, yeah, Fred Bulletin the coop was on that team. Mr Mark, he's just mentioned him. Yeah, my bat, my bat's done with the raiders. And then, yeah, it's what happened. Was Kenny King with it? Jenny King intercepted a couple passes. I think he ran one back for dulps down to it was ten, but it really was so so hold on, this happens at the house when he goes into his monologs of history sometimes, Maas, let me ye now. I know got in love the history...

...of your sports. Yeah, and you pass some mash potatos. Well, mass potato for created, my bad for the viewers still rocket with us. My bread back a great potato famine of I think it's on brody right on the pick. Yes, we got Table Bay Rahims. I'm gonna say Rams are because they're built. You know, man they're built the stop, the pass. Is this? That it is. I can't bet against time. I'm sorry, I can't bet with Stafford. I can't bet it last time. Yeah, I can't bet. I pay, I can't bat for just a turnover machine. Right. And they're her to though. Tampa's her to that. He said he's to take the rams. That tackle. Come on, that tackles big for Brady. As good as the rams are, I'm going to take the box. I like the box put. Maybe lay the rams points, but I'll take the box. I like the box put, man, that's Tom Smitty stinking rams. I'm think shit. I'm going Tom Brady. I told you that last year whinny far was on your show. I said you don't bet against Tom Brady. It' Smitty so from from Phill it she and let me let me tell you a couple stories about Tom Brady. Miss. He's miss the markers that say he come with you. I would have brought up the sixty team. So they're all concrete chart there. We're not talking about concrete. Charlie. When normy Van Brocklin scored that touchdown, you don't understand. I got I was up in my voice I was up in my Whitey tighty simple. That brought the city back. For the record, I really lost it more yet. In one thousand nine hundred and sixty. For another four years was swimming. Waited for my chance. Tell he's Johnny Apple. See Davey boode and Jimmy Thorpe all lined up on the wide and I was ready to go big. The fact that you said you were, I was like, Michael fell years is this great night. That's that was for. That's close enough to nineteen sixty and closer to nineteen six. In a nineteen sex it's like thirty years before anybody else was born. I know, I know. Next game. All Right, I'm going on. I agree. Can't go against the best cheat to ever. All right, can't the city bills back to you, kid, city bills. Oh, he's an Andy Reid lover. I would really, really, really really want buffalo to win first. You'RE gonna Tay Behind Andy Re and I'M gonna go with Buffalo. They'RE gonna go into Kansas City circle to wagons, jump through some tables, buffalos rolling out right. I think it's going to be really, really close. So you go over time. I think Casey wins on a last westminute field going over time, bills runn away with it. Son, I'm out of their own stadium. Circle the wagons, baby, that's right. Come on, come on. It's so excited for Brodie. You were made for this, Brodie. Don't forget that. I feel that's out of the table. Going to Lioft, the one, Bertie Thou stop. Don't worry about what spinny said. What's your pick? Say he values me my pics. Come on, circle to wagon bills. Yeay, Buddy. Hey, straight up, not against a line here, because it's gonna be a tight cake. Come on, nate, you are Casey bar easy, bar touchdown, Casey easily. Wow, I got casey. Where's you date? Yes, I think it's things. He said my name. Saw spoke up y'all wander when the builds? I want some money. Bills we got we had. I wonder when money. I mean they don't have to worry about any more distractions, because all Andy Reword is your in jail. It's to three buffalo over KSE KSE man our in the grave cake at home. I didn't want to go there. They just got too much offense, even though Allan's good man, you got too much. Go where? In the grave? Oh, I didn't say you in the grave, I said they're in. I know who was that. You were Dj. That was you. Well, you're in Andy Regt. All Right, since Tennessee, I'll go because I got mine. Guy. I'm rolling with Josie B gonna say Cincinnati, and I say youngest, the oldest. I'm going Joey Burrow, Cincinnati. I was want to throw one out there. He's gone, since we already know, since he that's my boy. I don't trust Ryan Tannehill. Oh, Oh, here comes. WHO's up? Tuna shoot or curtain ry? I just saw it. took talking who running over, Body over, all right, pick WHO's pick? No, you don't even know. Andrew, Andrew. It's Andrew. Bangles, Bang, Bangles, Bangles, not the bangles, the bangles. We've got three pick so far. For said, this is Sinnati. This it's a number one seeds getting no lover, Cincinnati. Bou jangles. You're going from tone. No, I'm going with titans. I think it's close, so I'll take the bangles points. That's yeah, what are what are through? If I'll take the points, I take titans money line, though. All Right, D G date,...

I'm gone titans. I like the Titans and Henry. If Henry plays, I need to know. If him yeah, kind of hinges. I PRA agree. He's pretty now I'm impressed that they kept winning without Henry. He's practicing enough to get the one seat, since he's got so much fire. Yeah, a good team. They are just a good team, or not a good team, but and it well, in veriable's variable. veriable to me is like, let me this tennis see speed. Good team if they kept winning without Henry. Let me ask you this. Games on the line just because we think it's gonna be a close game. Who Do you trust more with the ball in your hands? Joey, Bar Ryan, townhill, Derrick Henry? Now you have to have the ball. Bear, I think it's I think it's Tannehill. Hell has been in these situation's been here before then and I don't really trust and he hasn't won it because he played the chiefs. You know what, since he's gonna do yeah, he's gonna do exactly what the Eagles did. Stack the box. TRY TO BOXING Henry. I'm not saying it'll work completely as well as Eagles Tannehill cannot beat is not going to, but he's been doing it since Henry's been out. That's he doesn't they haven't really played anybody here. Had these receivers either. Aj Brown, yeah, but who have they beat? Or Julie Hendry? Here's here's here's the piece that that I like. I'm other Look Cincinnati and Tennessee. Tennessee doesn't have a great defense home. No, no, no, hope people. The other defense is good. We rolled in there when when Philly was down there, and go over the Cincinnati to Tennessee is a quick jump. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of Cincinnati fans, and so then you should switch your pick. I still like put seven five cents down and I might put a dollar. I got a dollar on dollar. So they beat the saints, they beat the Texans. Some they found one. Listen, who they beat? With? When? When? When Henry didn't play? So they beat the saints, they beat the Texans, they beat New England and New England, which is a big with with when Henry was out near this is when he's out to beat the jags. They lost it. The stillers to beat the niners. They beat the dolphins, Dude, you can't wins. All these are good wins, as are wains. Which one was a good way. Niners, the niners is a good on Thursday night we were there in the niners are niners was a good win. and New English, New England, and New England is a good win. And then beating and then beating, not so much the saints, but I think beating the dolphins. The dolphins has a good defense, because and they were rolling at that time and they beat the hell out of the dolphins. They beat Him Tho, twent three. They beat the rams all right with when Henry was all there's gonna be an upset this weekend and it's going to be the bungles. As much as I wanted to be Green Bay, it's not gonna be this weekend. We next weekend. Green Bayliss Dude, Junie SS, cincinnat. I'm going to go with Cincinnati. He talked himself out of talk in right. Let's get to the hottest team in town. But the best player in town had no time. Greatness, a Benjamin Simmons. Are you guys? Got Seven minutes? Got Seven it's a lifetime. Go started off. Job's great player and playing it as MVP Ben Simmons, you still little bitch, Darrel Moore. He's doing a very good job not accepting any of these crap trades. We said seven minutes or seven seconds? Seven minute. Oh, I can't hear because Andrew Key's fall one with the damn microphone. Stop tickling the microphone. Sees No, I I mean last night and be just showed you how greedy is. I mean the dude is insane. He's pulling fadeaway jumpers at guards. Can't even do any seven foot. All the guys incredible. Yes, he is, he is. We talked about guys like dark new whisky. Tim Duncan Channel Jack Kimlajwan, you know, some of the greatest big man ever, I think in beads revolution revolutionizing the big man position again. I don't think you've seen a big man like him to heave his range. You know skill. Said don't never didn't have Tim Duncan. Couldn't do that's I'm saying. Tom Duncan never the rain jerk has the jumper, but the way better put some respect on tim don't. I have free seat. Thank you. Name like let's Stop Tim Him, Tim change the way. Yeah, big man was playing to for he can't heat. He wasn't doing what I'm beads doing right now, though. He just not. He wasn't that type of player. Well, what we're saying is that beats best dead and but, but don't get any twist. He was a power forward, but not a big but it doesn't matter. But don't get it twisted. Tim Duncan would give you fifteen, I mean fifty points in two thousand and twenty rebounds, like it might not look like in bead but didn't like Tim drop to five point a lot of games. I'm they done and drop empty, Momm just saying. And beat is up. This is only the second time and beats done it. No, but I don't think Duncan has dropped fifty that many times. I want to say a handful. But here's the thing. What we're saying is I don't think we're on. None of us are. Say Look it up. Don Kills Better, has never been seen and beat has more range than Tim Duncan him don't does good one. Tim Duncan has one hundred fifty point game and beat us too. And not only the mention this. Nate. Tim Duncan does not have the rings and and every point right game and then fifty point game. They...

...lost and they will end and be didn't twenty seven minutes. Yeah, I mean the things that I beat fifty points in twenty seven. Yeah, unreal that you had fifty two and what thirty one minutes. We're not in about an hour and a half. We're not argue in the mvs twenty eight and be m Bes, MVP. Let's get that argument. Absolutely. He's the best players. You. Here's here's what I want to discuss. He gets will he get it that we got? We got plenty of time to talk about that. TRADE HEADLINES COMING UP. If Daryl Morey does not trade Ben Simmons, it's malpractice and I'm dumb. Morey, your didn't. Dude, you sound with him and Halle the other him and Halley like the other guy with the sport. He's basting m beats and be dude. Here's the thing that more said. I need you, Paul, I need you to listen to the interview today and you'll have a different perspective of more because he's right. Fans like you, Jim Right. Yeah, are saying, let's make the move now, let's take a role player, but a role player doesn't help us win this year. The role player doesn't help us win another three whole our years. Hold on. I I was in favorable more had to say today and I'm in favor of that side. But in Jim's defense, and fans like his defense and opinions. If you look at that bucks roster last year that won a championship, who won that team? Beside you, onis is a star. But I'm just saying then why? So like more Middleton. So know how could have me. How long have you been to Philly Fan, just a general Philly Fan? Long? How many championships do we have in that time? No, if you're telling me more, you can make a trade this year to get me one championship. I'm absolutely I don't want the potential for four years of making he uster coppet finals. I want to champion Che did how burden and Buddy healed. Do not get you a ring. No, but I think what they're saying is if you get the right package of role players and picks, maybe that hard to surround them be like the bucks did last year with that fuel formula surrounding. All right, Goombo like if you could get, you could maybe work it was a little bit more better players. I agree, though. I agree mintle and ends up Middleton, drew holiday. We're through. Come on, hold on. Drew Holidays had a crazy run last year. He is look what he's doing this year. It ain't he's always been here. She fitsively, though. Yeah, but he had a crazy you got to look at this team and how they're playing right now. Right you were saying it m beats the MVP right Max. He's playing probably above what anybody expect. It is great if you can get that number two player to plug in right now and they can make a run, versus just saying, wow, we'll get a guy talks chair and your number assure right now. But you're assuming that him beads gonna have the same season next year. You're assuming he's gonna be healthy. Also, I told you right now that you could hold on to it. I made a feeling level for that Super Bowl. I got it. I'm paid for it. If I told you right now that you we would hold on to Simmons and in a summer you're going to get a star level player, whether it's James Harden our Bradley Beal, are you waiting? What's that going to get me? Did you say hold on the Salmon? They you hold on the Simmons. You don't do what to trade him the summer and you're going to get bal or harden. Are you staying you tough? Yes, I'm trading Simmons for Halliburton and we're going to get you to the finals and maybe win it. Versus, I'M gonna get you bill next year and I'm going to fight the whole season. One who gets the ball and will make it to the divisional round and loose. How Burton, you're not getting to the finals, and I like how don't you don't? You don't know. It's all assumptions right now. If you can tell me, like a Brandon Ingram and a or how burden and John Collins Package, fine, but what can't what sacriment is giving us. I'm not a huge Tobias Harris Fan at all. Harrison Barnes, buddy healed, and tyres Halburn do not make you a better team by much. I just so. I think he's smoking crack if he thinks this guy sits the whole season, gets to the offseason and all these GM's got Oh, bitch. I would love to have him. Is My number one. He'll give you my best player because he has a played all season here. He can't shoot, but he hasn't shown no desire to better his game. I'll give you my best player. But listen, I'm not disagreeing with but if it there must if beals got hardened, if he has harden or beyond hard and have their GM's by two balls, if they say they're not signing, they're going to take something, and I guarantee Brooklyn would take Ben Simmons as opposed to harden walk. I would have. I wouldn't that get leaked out, now that it is getting leaked out. So why wouldn't you make the trade then? Because they're going to try to do it one more time with Kiya. Why are you waiting? Because I think they act if getting hard in her beal. You're champing. I can't container fight three to four. Agree, submitty, that the goal is to get it's literally can now for a real yeah right. So, but I hear you Jim side and what hit fans like him or saying. I well, because I don't think how cause it around them bead with these role players are, whether they're good or bad, and if you get the right package, you're wasting it. I think you're wasting it's got to be a true score, like an. I was with you guys at the beginning of the year. Well, I'm not happening. It's not happen. What's Flanders Friends telling me? I don't want sacrament or your right, Flan, I don't want Sacramento. The sack rand wants Ben Simmons back on the court. Well, not coming back on the course. I'm friend set up. Dude. I'm with Flann. You trade them and you wait for James Harden. Hey Be, you're better than that. Take of wanting Ben Simmons back. He doesn't want Simmons back anymore that he says he's back on the court.

He's not back on the court because more, he basically said today. Dude, like he's not budging. But if you tell me, I'm giving you a harden her beal in the summer. You gotta wait. You'RE gonna have three to four years of m beads with another superstar, and it's sending Maxie. Hold on, you'RE gonna wait. Been Just said. You're been a be. Just said you're getting the one see without then I agree. I agree with you said. He here as is, yes, as is there. The two games out right now. Brooklyn guys are like a bunch of Moody Wan Brooklyn, the way, the way your temperature changes on this sixers teams, Brooklyn. Last week they sucked. That was two weeks again exactly. But let's at Brooklyn's Got Guarden, Brooklyn's got dran out. Milwaukee doesn't look like the same team there. We just be freaking Miami and Chicago's now lost two players. Okay, so you're telling me we're two games at, two games out, and we can when we got a guy that we're not playing with. So if you can flip that guy for another guy to get my fine in but not win, that might fit in and make this team win the finals. Wait for harden or be I'm all in ice, ice, I sway for a hardened I see, I see, which. Yeah, I'm just selling my soul this year. So get the championship one year, as opposed to expand in the window with the yber started. Dude, how many times have we seen at with the teams in the sea and this? How many times we had somebody like James Harden or Bradley Beale prepared when I be hard to can kiss my sister's ass. I don't want James Hardy talk about him like this. Next Michael Jordan, like James Harden in the pick and roll with him, beat is unstoppable. Come on, come on, a year older, a year older James Harden, a year older than bead I want it now. You're in the position to win now and the kid play in the best game of his career, the but of his life. Now I get I like. I like what Jim's going with this. I like what he's saying because I understand what you're saying, smitty be from a value standpoint. But when you did if this is a young team with no actually, when you look at the big picture, they're winning without been. So they've learned how to play without been and not even that it's showing that there may be in the top three. So why we of the East that chemistry? So it's not. But you would disrupt the chemistry even more with the star. Yeah, but that's next year where you stop it. But there's no learned how to play. But he's playing MVP level now. Dude, how you're telling me harden comes in here and he's gonna say I don't want the ball. Go score fifty at night, but not even at the like. This is the same here in a row that we've seen, seen him at this MVP level. He's at his peers right now. Thing I want you to understand me. It's all about you have an asset in Ben Simmons. You Agree Ben Simmons has a lot of value in the league, right, you know? You agree. You cannot give up Ben Simmons for something small, because this is sure only time to catch. How many championships is does James Harden hath he almost single, almost that we're good, almost this year. Give me the guy to get us there. How vern, it's like getting here there. How are? I'm tired of this. To burden is not seen it. I got my Eagles Championship. Buddy, my said I want my sixers championship. I don't want to settle for a trade like that. was offered from sights, can we all? I don't hate it. I we end this podcast for fish to thrown and Daviss cleftand we're not. This is just fun. But I go out, I just have no. I mean I get what he's I get what Smithy say it to because if you if you flip him, you got a view. You can you mess some miss your. Have No, if you miss your, you miss, you're done right, like you're in a complete rebuild. Once in beat is often to the sunset. I'm gonna tell you right now, from beads. Tell Him, Morey, wait this summer be and and more he's very confident they can get harden her beal, because I'm gonna tell you right now, if Morey wasn't confident that he could get a star, Ben would already be gone. You he has an inkling that he's gonna be able to make a deal. You tell me at the beginning in the season we have em beat and hardened or bell. I love it. I love the whole season. But what I'm but I'm telling now we're on a run now, right. But it's MVP next year. No, he's MVP this year. But here's the thing, Jim. If you cash that asst in for a role player and you don't win, you have no asset and it's blown up. If you wait and get a super so bad that windows open for three to four years Max. He's only twenty one. He is very good. Yeah, I like I you could have a big box three of Max ran. I am not thinking like a flyers fan. Flyers fading, or hold on a bench himmon's until he game five and then you know what's up. Now and I appreciate she's not in. Hurts is the man. He's going to be a top two quarterback next year. This is not a flyers fan thinking flyers fans. Get him play and go get me Paul Coffee when he's seventy five and to cover the Blue Line and we'll keep your ruin around, because how bost the captain, how a boy. We're ending it there. Yeah, you, because you're wrong, because you're wrong. Will have plenty of time to talk about this because this eagles are done. Have a couple more seasons left to the NFL, but basketball's kicking in and shout out...

...of Australia, shout out the Australia. Thanks Sweeney for checking and PAT. Sorry about the flyers. I'd say we'll do better, but we're not. We're not going to be out there. We're not going to do better. Flyer suck, yes, but thanks for hanging out with us. Are On another episode, to say the BOOT first podcast. We will be back next week for championship weekend and party comments boys. Yeah, Ben Simmons is going to be gone by to roll your assets, maybe the MLB. You will have the lockout over by the time this week. Last time I checked, you don't take ten cents on the dollar on value. So that's what I'm saying. Unless you're game, unless you're gamble, sense is going to go down the seven. All right, buddy, have a good night. Thanks for hanging out with another episode of the Santa Boots First podcast. Be Excellent to each other. See you next. Were hired. Can you den you freaking trait? Can you guys do interview? I think you'll have a different perspective, emp and I see what you're saying.

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