Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast
Santa Booed First - Eagles Podcast

Season 1, Episode · 3 months ago

Trading Ben Simmons

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Jim and the guys are back to talk to the biggest topic of the city, Trading Ben Simmons. Should we blow it all up or even trade Embiid. The guys talk through all the rumor mills and we all play GM. 

We talking early Eagles moves and when we should bull the trigger on Deshaun Watson 

It is a gift and curse to be a Philadelphia Fan 

Not The people back again for another episode of theSana boot first podcast back in to talk about the Sixers, what the post seasonhas for us and just post mortem of this past season, stick around for San aboot first a period Etho evening and welcome toanother episode of the Santa Boot first podcast coming to you live frombeautiful, downtown, Willi Grove, the crack belt production studios on thisfantastic Thursday evening. This is Jim mark is to my right in the room. We gotthe brody man it's going on, but to his right, the older statesman, Dick Hello,open James, don't be jealous. Is Rain, don't hate to play. I hate thegame. The oldest line ever o the big dray. We Got Bryan Smith,SMIDDY, ready. What's up man and behind the glass we got Nat Moss, neat keepingis live. What's going on NEAT, he gets the cheer. I get the chairs, wedon't have Dja in here tonight. I know, and I was going to ask for an apologyand I'm still going to ask her apology- a lie he's in Ye, maybe he'll tune in.Will he tuned in? I want an apology for Ben Simmons he's been supporting him forever. Hefinally convinced me to support Ben Simmons, look what he did to it andthen look what happened and I'm going to apologize, because I said the hawksstink, there's no chance sixers and five, and I'm wait that it was six thatit was seven a after six and it was nine, but they wouldn't give us theextra games so yeah. That is what it is, and you knowwhat I I want. Everybody be open on the show and have open minds, and we canaccept failure, open hope and heart. We could accept failure. I was wrong. I'ma big enough man to admit my mistakes. I still think the Hawk stink, but theywere the better team and when I want to get into where they the better team,what happened so bodies on the table boys? What happened in this play offseries there's plenty of things we can plot to I've already mentioned Ben Bea,the Hawks, a better team. Was it doc? Was it something else where we at tracestinking young happens? To Start, okay referees happened, I think dwell's knee was reallybothering him more than he ever let on, because he just simply wasn't the sameplayer that he was in the first round yeah and during the regular season andBen it. You Know Doc doc had a lot to do with it. I heard today on the radiogoing to work. He they specifically cited him for losinggames one and five, ten, no, the dog, doc. Yes, and Idefinitely agree he lost this game one without making those switches ondefense. If there became obvious that brink not cover young and there were a couple other thingsthat happened, you know there wasn't enough bench support step, carry he stepped up first step,carry he stepped up and really did he did a phenomenal job for for most ofthe time. But there wasn't, you know they obviously lost green with theinjury and there just wasn't enough help. Both the bench you know and and MB and B got beat up and worn down as the series went on and all those things combined led to atotal team lost. What are your thoughts men, as I'msitting here five days now, still may win plea, I'm in complete shock, I meanhow does he number one see number one before I even get to like issues I justwant to. How does the number one seed lose three times at home when they'vehad one of the best records in the MBA the last two years? How also does atnumber one seed take their foot off the gas. When you have your team game for you're up eighteen going intothe third quarter you lose, then you come back game five and you show up forthree quarters: You're up twenty eight and you fall apart. I'm beside myselfstill like, I think it's more more pissed off watching the games lastnight that the sixers aren't in it and the fact that, like Atlantis up, wonnothing right now. In that series I can't help but say, like I still thinkwe're a better team. We should have had...

...them out in in five insects, and I think Danny Green had a lot thatI think Danny groom was right when he said that this team looked past. I wasgonna, that's and right right to the hawks, but I think there's blame to goaround like everywhere. First of all, Dr Tations were awful right, like let'stalk about even game. Seven, why? The Hell? Have you not been playing shakeMilton in the beginning of fourth quarter? You decide to put him on thecourt right. Let's also talk about. Obviously Simmons we know Simmons isyou know scared of his own shadow right now, whatever it is, mental health,whatever it is, can make free throws he's a huge problem, but also I wantpeople to realize that as much as I be played an MB level this year, you can'thave eight turnovers in game six and seven, and also your seven foot two. You should not be standing at the threepoint line after the game. Also saying. Well, I'm still a guard Yep, but allyou need to do is pound yourself in the middle and Capella. Can't stop you yeahwe've been saying not about m bed for how long yeah like why I got screamingfor him that P lay down on the well block and as much as like doc, an and bead might have been rightat the end of the game like throwing Ben under the bus. I don't think that'show you do it as a team, like I think, doc, look docks track record is what itis. This is now two years in a row where he's blown leads and nm once tosit there. I an and look been taking that dog didn't take that Donki fine,that was momentum but duell. Let's not forget, there's a two point game andyou're trying to do too much and you turn to ball over as well. I mean it.This team is just like, like I said to I've, said to you guys before, and thischat like no. Nobody on this team has the mentality of like I'm, going to ripyour heart out at all costs. They don't have somebody like that. They don'thave somebody like that they think to buy is been. They think that they canjust show up. They were to number one seed all year. Oh we have home andguess what they found out. If you don't want it much hard enough, I don't carehow good you are you're going to lose and that's what happened to sixers.They don't have that mom mentality right, not if e to right. I wonder ifit was a little bit. They were smell themselves a little bit right, that'swhat they really flat out set on a day, they're looking past. Take it out! Lookwe got Milwaukee, I don't know how to start to think about Milwaukee. I don'tknow how you can't say that if you look at a like and he's the other part, how thehell is the team wake up from a twelve to fourteen point, lead and game sexcome back and win on their own court and then come and throw an egg onsomething like and the other part about, or tray young didn't even shoot well On.We still lost, we let you know, take a line from deja richlylooks like they just came out of the Catholic lean, Kevin Herder beat us andthat's the problem I have with Doc. I have a huge problem with doc therebecause he stuck with seth carry and he stuck with Cork Mas and he watched themget roasted and he didn't do anything about it. That's coaching, he neededthe offense that carry was bringing him because there wasn't a whole lot ofoptions on the Flo agree with you, then bring thibon and have fine right yeah.I ardint a Buni. Do, do you think doc isreally running an offense? No, I hate to say that, because he's a head coachin the Mba- but it like you, say, there's certain points of the game whenyou go. Why are you guys coming down and just chucking the ball up? Youdon't need to do this, that and to your to your point of being a killer. Jillshould be the killer on this Tsiba to kill so to kill a killer from theperimeter. He shouldn't be: Oh, no, but fadeaways. He should be bumped in hisass. Excuse me in the lane and dunk in the ball or going right to thebasketware. Capella can't stop you and I don't want to hear about anythingwith Simmons with the spacing Jon Beads the center like yeah and that's anotherthing too. I am B doesn't have enough spacing with Simmons and guess what Docrivers needs to be man enough to bench him and put Maxie out on that court. Oh Mary he's not Mary's Guy Right Mare,didn't draft. Those guys are more so well see what that means right. I don'tI don't know so much blame to go around. Do you have something yeah? I think that one of the biggestproblems was the defense like the Aleuts. They were letting up that. TryYoung, I mean he's a good shooter, but he shouldn't be able to go like we. Hewas going like those little drops y. Ah, you would would go as far away as youcould from the three point, nine percent of that to like that one dunk that John come it onmb that shouldn't be happening shouldn't be avowing that you're rightshouldn't be happening. All right, especially call bigger couple thingsfirst of all, Djisha. Finally, watching is he an Joe White's looking for forold school basketball? He wants late S N. I totally agree they would have putthem away if it was old, school basketball, pound. Oh Yeah, why thehell you up? Twenty eight, still shooting three pointers. Why you up enstill shooting three pointers, a tag: Basketball, one o one- that when youget the Lead Right, deek like you low it down, I have slow down the page. Aright get some two point baskets maintenant Le who cares, even if theywould have tied with it land in that quarter, it wouldn't have mattered.They got out shot what our out scored, Fortyn, O nineteen forty, the bench. Ithink I heard in that in that twenty...

...six point game. The last fifteenminutes of getting of the game that got out scored fifty one, a d fifteen andyou know who else is the house probably an even get to Tobias to by? He is yeahshot after shot and game? Seven lay off lay a all right. He disappeared fromone series to the deck yeah. Nobody has that mentality you're like that mom butmentality like nobody has it. They think they can show up. They thinkthey're they're great and they found out like look. We can talk all this trash we want, butyou know what, when it push comes to shop, they didn't give a hundredpercent effort. I don't care a D and we can blame Ben. That's fine, but I'm notgoing to blame Ben for blowing a twenty. Eight point lead. I don't want to hearabout the foul shot. I don't even care, he was four or fourteen. You stilldon't lo blow. Twenty eight point league. Now you still not blowingeighteen point lead in Atlanta, a where, if you beat them in game for yeahthere's no way they have a pole to come back and they lose half the like yeah. They had opportunities to takethe team part, and I just do myself, because nobody, I think that's left, isbetter than this sixers. I still don't even watching a western conference theywould go to to to in any of those teams and they would have. I lays like to sixor sons would be a really interesting match. It would be, but I actually saida couple weeks ago that I think the suns are going to win it. I just I just I like the way they'replaying made any thoughts. No, no, not really I'm gonna BE HONEST BECAUSE I'm we'vetalked about it all week. I think I've said it even on the show here. He ain'tit really that simple bin Ain't it right, there's a lot of things thathave happened there, but at the end of the day, it's all it's on been he's.Your second best player on the team he's your Max Guy. He did not show up.We knew this. We are frauds as six or fans by telling ourselves that we weregoing to get something that we didn't right. So what would you expect wasgoing to happen? He does it all the time he does it in a regular seasonhe's done in in the play offs before who were frauds and China like it. Youknow it's like you know, it's like the girl that you want it now you find outshe's a dude or something crazy, some really to some really dramatic right.He got a Adams Apple Year like en Niemann. Get over that hand shake waskind of hard that hug was kind of tough. You know, you know her. Did the nailsweren't really filed down the right way? You know I mean so won you hanging out what all the prep boys man. I don'tknow they what I mean it was over the top,but it's that's what it is right now we're still talking about it, we'restill soaking in it we're mad about it. We're angry about it. You know it's, but it is what it is andthey're not trading him right. I I've seen the rumor mill. You don't thinkthey are no whole going to who d e going to trade for him dude if FrishPaul really met with them today, like I think he wants out quietly. I thinkthis is a number eleven situation before I get inthe swear jar that that I think that that's what they're trying to do. Imean, if you heard this the same thing: Oh we're going to rehive them we'regoing to bring here's a part of the problem that I really think people needto overlook. I'm not takin fall away from being this organization has babiedhim and enabled him since he's had his aunt stepped in Philadelphia, he's beencalled. The next Lebon he's been called the fresh Prince of Philly Doc. Riverscomes in like dock like get them in the gym and make them shoot that's hot, andif this summer it doesn't happen, it's never going to happen. I don't know ifit is going to happen, because it's been five years, I'm done I'm a dish,Fan supporter he you know that him being coddled, has been a problem longbefore he got to the sixers it was. It was probably a problem in sixth gradewith this kid, daddy was bringing them his love as soon as somebody as soon assome big wig in the game saw that he hadpotential, and you know that he could be. You know something special. It wasall over it was. It was coddle city up on a pedestal. From that point on howdoes and here's the thing like, I know what you said need about him comingback, how the hell is it? First of all, this guy is mentally soft. We all knowthat, whether it's mental health, his huge which God forbid you know that isreal right, so we do have to remember that he is going through for somethingGod forbid. I hope he he comes out of it, but how the heck does he step backinto the city after what he did and how's? He accept it and, if he's nothow's, he ever going to get better like they're going to be the shit out ofthem next year, Yep they're not going to forgive him, don't not a! I give himuntil, like I mean I shouldn't say that let do Boreton but ye right well, saythe me as promised that today, by the way Brodie in Stagra, so the name thatwe said we won't say. But it's like Carson Right, I I there's there's goingto be situation. A there's going to be...

Hira have his fan base is going to say,that's all right, we'll give them next here. Look I'll admit. I was part atthat. Sad basilar for Carson like well give me an go. Git Me a shot, but but II agree with you. He, like, I, don't want to see the videos this summer ofhim and the kid about a shooting, but there's nobody around on her less aboutit want to see because- and the only way I want to see those videos is, if,like I told you he's in the court with them, be shooting coach or he's at theNova or not the Nova he's at the facility in Camden. I'm tired of this BS for him, going to La Okay and taking a couple jump shots, and then you seehim like you know, video games or with the girls in the cars I'm tired of itlike do you want to be special, or do you not Kobe didn't care about thatKobe, as was in the gym Tyre Max he's response was perfect and he actedinterviews. He said I'm going to get one percent better. Every day he shootsthe ball five hundred shots a day, the life Pan Goin. To do that? No, I don'tthink so that one of the traders had to tell maxy he wanted to come in onMonday, and he said no well that's to other, which do on which another thinghe's a player Development Cook. So maybe Maxi develops that Mama attitude.Well, that's that's what I like it. So I wish she had a little more height. Hehe's on the way, no he's on the right road, yeah he's on the right road he'sdeveloping it. So to speak. It's a shame, he's not three or four inchestaller yeah, where he would be in boy compared to a I wasn't: Either it's gotto be a heart, but here's the the bit a I had it. I agree I or I here's thething at that, and I want your guys opinion on this, because I've beenthinking about this. They talk about how they have this great culture andthey have this great camaraderie. Do they really do they really in thatlocker room or is that all false fools gold and, second of all, why the hell?Are They not all work like I like to see Maxie, thible Simmons and beat allin the gym together this summer working out, you know what I mean like t. IfSimmons is committed to being in Philadelphia, then go to the sixerspractice facility work out with your guys right, because you know I'm beadsnot going to be out West he's got a child now yeah Max's invested. He wantsto already work out thible. If that's what they're all about them worktogether as a team, I don't care if you have to bring in Joe and be shootingcoach look at what he's done for the guys he brought in tatums a bettershooter Kelly obras. I, like all the guys that drew handles worked with, arebetter shooters and Ben still wants to work with his brother, which I thinkparty that's part of the a yeah I baby, yes, that that cannot be led. I believethe sixers allowed his brother to be a shooting col. I think they changed itto like somebody else cur. I don't care. I was to coach for more than it was.What was it three years, five years Ethra, that's insane that you allowyour what credentials? Does this guy have over her McGee he's my brother,you that he's an off star? That's what and I'm tired of hearing hat from no no,no his brother. What does his brother, his brother's credentials, have oversomebody? You don't realize that he's responsible for making Ben Simmons to asuper star. He brought them out every day. Stop Now! I'm being SI know it. Itell the development jump, shot still haven't seen no other than Suerleyfirst year that I've been saying this for a while. You've got to have thatcompetitive fire in your bell. Doesn't I know- and you have to have thatdesire to become better, never ever be satisfied with what you are well he'skind of nobody. All the great players have never been in every sport. I justbasketball, all sports across the board from you know, Tiger Woods and golf tobe on Borg and tennis. Whatever pick your score, Picker Black Front, a Borg,Michael Shelton Swim. Yes, when he wasn't doing something else, that'sfine! I think that helped him ye whatever, but they all had that burningdesire in their heart and in their belly to be better and they worked atbecoming better and that I was never satisfied and that is it and I feellike satisfied as much as like I've still ripped him. He has gotten better.Every time he's been in the league like if you look at he- and I said this acouple says ago- he's so far removed from his rookie year, whereas Ben isbasically the same player as he was as a rookie and beat his head andshoulders beyond where he was as a rook he's developed his game and Menton. Icouldn't help but watch a game in Atlanta last night or at LandaMilwaukee in and I don't know if you guys were watching it yeah. I watchlike the third or fourth quarter and those like lobs that gonus was goingright to the basket. That could be bad. Every time then has that in him like hedoes, and it's like that's part of my worry like does he go somewhere elseand unlock the potential, but I guess we can't worry about that any more, but,like something's got a something's got to give with this team and, like Idon't know what it is, and the other thing that I think we also got to thinkabout is like is Guel dumb with Ben, because I've said this Otaye RS. Isthere like an? I don't know how, like close, they really are right like he.If you think about it like and Bei kind...

...of, took some subtle shots like Oh, Iwish we still have Butler right and he knew but like how much is thatrelationship repair? You talk about the the locker room and the culture and howit is well, maybe it's good because they all kind of do what they wantright, like yeah, we're all super stars. You know, and it's I'm sure, the lockof rooms a little clicky right, yeah, like I d, O pet Ben's gonna, go andhe's gonna play call duty with his buddies at night and Joe's going to gohome to his baby right he's going to go home play with his son to buys Harrisis going to scream the defense, I'm an all star, guess what Toby Listen in theSanta Boon you're, not at all star, all right, I as you are listening and thathe wasn't it. He was in a regular season that instar moves on the post heup an hour ago, you're delivering a championship. Philoh, I'm holding youto that Mir, one hundred and ninety million who disappeared and gamed seven all right. Let me let me actually hit up now hiredup. Let me ask you boy something because I've been listening and I justwant you to ask answer me. Two questions. First is Ben Sim is agenerational player and then second, is this team better without Ben Simmons? So, let's, okay, let's read some ofsome of Ben's accolade since he's been in the league. Right he's got a rookiethe year called duty, Chambry team spit a three time all star two time, alldefensive team there's only three players in history to average fourteenpoint, seven and a half sits and seven a half free bounds, Ben Lucca and OscarRobertson. So if you look at the stats he looks like he should be and then howhe waps. I agree. It's bother bobby a bright bobby or brave, bobby and brayall over again right he's getting it when it doesn't matter, but that'sthat's how he was sold to was right. He was sold as a generational talent. Hewas a number one pick, but he is. I can't disagree. He is, though, he's sixten it who running the Boring Otte. Can he can do everything he can shoot? Hejust doesn't shoot. You know it's crazy. He shot. I looked at this today thatfirst year Miami sers he shot. Seventy percent in that play off series.Seventy percent who run the field shoot five times. No. Seventy percent from the field, likeI'm telling you I told you guys, is not go, bring it up right now. Simmons hassome issues, and I don't know if it's because Kendal left them the otherINSARA model. Now Do you need to hit Hal? He can't handle it ne, so her menmetal saw her. You guys go for Momban hold on Harris e t want to retire a osseous. So when does he realize that and workon that? I hope it's the wake up call now, because if he had even had thethreat of a jump shot, the sixers are basically on stop ble, because you'renever going to be able to double cover and bed, and I wish he would understandthat. I'm not even like look at Yo Onis Jons is not a good shooter, but heshoots the ball. A threat, Ben Simmons, going up and shooting changes the whole dynamic of this team.Yeah and- and I will say what NAT said to like. I don't think they are abetter team if they get rid of Simmons unless it's like a superstar, whetherit's a beal- and I don't even know if it's a levine, whether it's Liart likeC J MC, come they're, not a better team because they lose a lot on defense likehe is a really really good defensive player, and he is the reason why thatthey shut down tray young and game. Seven I'll give him that defensivelyhe's amazing and he doesn't even need to be like he doesn't need to shoot theball. He just needs to be a threat to shoot the ball, and I don't want tohear doc rivers bs about the foul line, we're going to make them better. I wantto see more than just being come better at the foul line, but it does start atthe fell in. But if you, if you look at the the players you you just talkedabout, if you're there GMA- and you just saw what Ben is you're not givingup those players, Ye nate, I think Portland- would because they haven'tbeen able to win with those two. And I think that Ben would really help themas a fittig you going to give them they're going to give up Suntay. Idon't want to get tough NAT. I don't why you would do that. Oh how yeah soplay defense. You don't need defense with the other players around you. Ijust feel like C J he's not like you hear these names at the sixers like allthe time that they had other opportunities to get on. Like so jourlblaze besly, I don't want or Malika...

...yeah easily from. I don't want him. Iwould say CJ in a second. Are you serious? I want lower take little infirst we can't we're not getting dame straight up for Ben not to be reat. Idon't think so. Either Ned here's another thing that I think mb needs todo. What do all super stars players do when it becomes for he needs to startbecoming a recruiter. That's how that's how labroad all these guys get guyslike I'm alway going to play in Philadelphia. He needs to get a superstart at once out and says, like I'm only Goin to play in Philadelphia, buthe ain't a not he anon hat level yet and he doesn't make friends right. Heshakes heads after the Games and it looks like they're friends but a go tocameron. A recruit car. I don't think he's that type either. I don't thinkyou don't think he do think it's a sous been neat. is He that tug that'll saythe management like look? You got to get rid of EM. That's the question Ithink is floating around. That's that's tricky. I mean if your best player inyour NB caliber player, pretty much the guy you we look at is the heart. Aheart of the city goes to management and say: Hey it's either me or ban Bensgot well somebody's got something's got to give somebody's got to go. That's itthat's a tricky situation and you trade him. Now you know you're not going toget what you want. I think the latest trait I saw was something over. It wasit's an now. It's wiggins and like the two, the two top picks and that GoldenState got and Wigan's for Ben. You know who somebody I just thought about. Iwas thinking about today. I would take that, though, what about Cleveland,because they have a top four pick and they have garlan. Would you take sex, Tivine, no sexton and NANCE and afirst round pick? Are they going to give sextons like their best playerright now? I think I are their best proposa him up for Ben, because I thinkthey think they talk think about star Peel. What Le Branded. I think youcould get him sexon. I don't. He needs to go to a veteran team. He can't go toa team where he's got a e where he goshe can go to freaking Shanghi sharks.If I get brother Beel back like I'm, not worried about Simmons, I'm worriedabout the best ones for the sixers five gree. How about a three way deals sendthem. The Golden State, like I said, send a bunch of young players tible.What Kelly you bray, wiggins and picks to Washington, and we get beat. I don'twant to give up thibet, you can't get that's a lot of defense, just walkingout the door, but so I'd rather give up tible to Maxie my opinion yeah. I agreethere, but, but I like but thought what diable showed in that series is thathe's got a little bit more offensive game to him, even though he missed thatbig shot in the corner and three when he was wide open, but he made he madesome big thries in that series too to keep them ahead. You know, I think heactually shot well pretty well that series as well. He just makes bat hemakes bad timely defensive stops great defensively, but if you notice over theperiod of time, he makes bad end of the game defensive bonehead plays. You know,like he's so aggressive, but he's so good at being aggressive, it's hard forhim to kind of turn it off like. There was no reason to find out doing fromthree point line. You know it's not in head just run what your hand up,there's no beset was a bad fire was a terrible foul. So if the Joe, we think joes the kind of guy towalk in a tmoigne office and say, look I'm notsaying you need to get rid of Ben, but you need. You need to get me a shooter.So if that means getting rid of toby, that means to get rid of Maxie like ifyou want Ben around here, because you think ben still has the potentialyou're going to work with Ben in the off season WHO's. Who, who goes then I heard theexcuse that they gave before to was like. Oh, the bench doesn't have enoughheight like you could have for that of a top.That's also do as Akad you can. It out got Ben Does in heaven. No, the bedshowed a bench but like the bench was not as good as everybody thought like.If you think about it, like shake at times, was really good right. He, likethe is a Maxie. We don't know, because doc didn't want to play him as much,because you know he wasn't good defensive leave you on the play offs. Isaw him as one of the better defensive players like they need veterans thatare going to like a p j talker would be perfect. I know we probably can'tafford them after body's doing milwaukee, but, like that's the type ofguy you need, they shorten the bench, but by shorten it they got rid of likethe scraps Mike Scott Right get those guys. I don't think he stepped on thefoot or did he not in a second round now I don't even know if I'm bringwhite didn't have a girl. I liked pit as the back up setter. Yes, but he the whole second series, likesome of these guys just disappeared as I or chill disappeared, and then that'sa that's another thing. Dockers praising him all. It was great on getthe hell out of here door. Stop feed us that BS do up. Try An alien dollaroption in trade is as docks, try to justify his moves or a lack of teachinthat, but you have to because there needs to be somewhere the contract room.They need to sign him this off season and then, if you're going to sign themand then trade them find to be in a deal, but like you can't let him go fornothing to you have no assets, but I...

...think Danny Green is a locker room guy.That needs to be here, especially if the those guys are basia winner, he'sin three rights on three different teams. Right he's right, you know he'sbeen in multiple locker rooms that have won. He knows what it's an going tothink the fact that he said that at his end of the exit interview was like alittle eye opening to you like. Obviously he saw something yet that wedon't know it. Yes right, like who the House says that Oh well, I think welook past you're, not saying that unless you have like as a veteranunless there's something that made, you think that he made a comment to the DOCsaid: He'd be back the I thin catch that back, I don't they don't have anymoney yeah and they need him or they need to use them in to trade.Like a signater, yeah, Sina Trade, you did you, don't have any assets really,so you have other to men. So you have to pick up George Hill's option andthen you can move them. You have to see side day, green and a SIM trade and canmove em. But you can't let these guys go for nothing H. It's it's going to be an interesting olfsen.I will say this more usually finds a way yeah like as much as I'm down inthe dumps. Right now, like I think more. He will find a way because he wastrying to trade for Jimmy Butler and he to have a leg to stand on when he wastrying to leave her. So I think more, you will get a super star player. Ijust don't know. If it's going to be at the expensive, then I really don't knowit's hard to be in Philadelphia Philadelphia far. It is, I think, it'sgoing to be so difficult to trade and between his contract and the way he'sdevalued himself over to the play off on in the last couple of years. It'sgoing to be really difficult, so the the option that it's that or theother option is obviously to keep them and try and develop him. You need to.You need to get Kili back for him I'll get of a booker right now he's BinMhile Jenner. It's that car Diana from those Cardatas Yeh stay away from thatIland hurts is with a car dash. Now you know that how, because I didn't know there, AnnateseNews what happened to the one that they found in a crack house here for threehas the breaking news. I news: Who was theone that found at a crack House Three d tomorrow, yeah a look? What he he I, where he's, not acar a ring, but he hasn't step foot in the on thefloor and how long for the? I just got to recall that the the League, where Ireceived league now the three out of three, the the what does it called he tried to playthe Cubes Le Right Ice, cubes Eh. He just he just fought Aaron Carter. Didhe get no he's like she's like a whole liketwo feet taller than his name ever maxwell or somebody got knocked out. Iremember ebouko Na Robinson Rabiyah anyway night night right. I think we need to discuss theoff season yeah and what what we might, what we might be able to do in the offseason. So, let's take a quick break to pay some bills come back, we'll talkwhat the sixers might be able to do to make this team ready to compete again and maybe we'llget into the summer. Sport are wonderful. Phillis! HMM! I thought youmet soccer philly comparison shop is a t this cheaper on Amazons. What willthe store? France? A second Esthy, not do that. I ninestone con like dressing travelersnationwide selected liberty, mutual and compass, Kemper and Bertha at owneragent at Malone. Prieto national carriers, with top local surface, justgo to injen her kids on a five three: Zero: Zero, nine five,nine Ero. All your assurance, auto home, given health, business, medicareinsurance plans make sure to go to insure phillion today or call point twoN: Five Years E N Five Nine Matt Maloney gives you the national carriersyou recognize from a local company. You can trust in Philae are back Santa boot. First podcast. Thank you toour sponsor in short, Philly Com. We forgot to give them a shout out thebeginning. Oh we got right into it. I I and I totally I totally flue that Ifumbled there. We forgot to give a shout out to Matt Malone and the Magency Inter Philco of to ten quotes in about ten minutes. We got you coveredand also our buddy Jason Fogg and POPs macan's Irish whiskey powered by POPs.I Apologize Gentlemen. Now we're back...

...all right. You settled sand in thereI'll tell you a second looks like bad laying down. It looks like bad got to get him goingall right. I there we go there. We go now now now brodees going to complainagain that you can't see his young angelic face on the camera.That's where we got distracted in here all right. So Daroo said that his jobas a G M is to look at every player and get the best players for his team right.My job to get the best players. We didn't have quite good enough players who's he talkin about. Then none of these players are his playersright. We've already already said that, so who wasn't quite good enough? Youcouldn't look at the guys like. Well, I don't even want to say Seth, becauseSeth played well on the second round. Yeah I mean the Danny Greens. Theshakes WHO's on to start with WHO's on touchable set chet is untouchable. Seth,Joel Maxie Max, that's it ible. Maybe no, I don't think he's uncomfortable, Ijoe so everybody, those three and everybody else is onthe table. I mean I disagree. Joel. I hand the less well now I'm set that'smy list: Let's stop there, O o l o Joel Hart, stop everybody else is available.Everybody else is available. A She just change. Give him that Super Mac gonnago to clutch. What let me ask you boys this. What ifPortland asked for Joel for Dame Hell? No Hell, no wow brodie chimed in on that one! No! No,so is he untouchable? Is You guys feel Imbe untouchable like what, if he givesyou the hall, you know like the s two super stars couple first frown picks alike in an Groa yeah. You can use that Zion, Ingram and and to two first roundpegs unprotected for Joe, I see, but now now you're now you'remaking up stories. Now you t now you're talking rains, rainbows and uniates onto you, lookahere er, Max you look at his injury. History he's probably gotbecause he flops man he flops on he's got I get nervous every time he hasyeah. He flops around. He but he'll, give you a thirty five and fifteenevery night and you got it either. Do that for the next three years until hefalls off or you get you you kind of like we, like you, guys, a n to talkabout the Phillies you blow it up, you blow it completely up and start for, asbecause he's going to give you the hall right, he's a he's, a top three playerin the League without a doubt yeah that I mean yeah a little docere aboutgiving them that Super Max like, and I think more he's got that. How manyyears did that? Get you five five four, but he's got two years left on his tailyou're, don't mess! I yeers ye he's got three years. I OUT SES you're talkingthirty tree thirty, four yeas, thirty, five paying of fifty billion dollars ayear he's got three years left of my a you got a deer productive years. Yethink ye can go to thirty if he keeps beating on those knees and floppingaround. Like that, I mean that's what I'm saying like it's like. You don'tlike it, but if you think about it, but then, if you do that, then you buildaround pen right. Yeah, I actually you would be he wouldbut around Ben you would you would but a red. You would just put you otes. Areyou o built around then you would have to. You would have to he's your star Owar, but if the hall brings you Super Stars Tell Ye we at you an what it'scome. YEA The hall. The hall is going to bring you a superstar, it's going tobring you a superstar, caliber who's, a top five player like dame. You know,like dame love like what, if they say I'll, give you dame, and you know I don't think they'll dothat don't k one on see. You know you got to remember. If a team is going todo that, give you all of those pieces, then there's re there not notnecessarily there's a reason. That's true, but what I was thinking is nowthey got to start almost all over again because they just decimated their team.They got rid of current players, they're getting rid of draft picks atour futures going so the you just got to make sure that theother teams willing to do something along those lines. If you're going todo that, you're going to get a super start as disgruntled is what it's goingto be right because it like, like you just said, nay, with with Joel'shistory, his age, no team is going to come and say: I'm gonna give you my toptwo stars right for this guy that I might get three years out of yes andI'm going to need to build around him, and I just gave you my top two starsyeah and you know the like what you take AwaCenters League, any more: It's a...

...perimeter, layer, league, Kowai,straight up or Kawakawa, and pick for N, because Koa's coming off that,obviously that that injury- which I think is more than what they're tellingnow- and I can you- can you build around a player that is going to giveyou three productive ears for Max? That's why I think his trade valueisn't quite right! You cannot! You can't we run you need when you want tobuild around a player you're looking to get eight to ten years out of thatplayer. Ah I mean that's great e basketball and I call Kawai and simondson the same team. Jesus Christ who's going to score the Ibo Dan Co well yeah,but he takes nights off to I ain't coming to Philly. Now I just ants,probably the homer in me he got, but I'm just saying, you're going to get aER player like that type of player is what you're getting back in return,plus some extra assets, maybe some buy outs, because I'm looking at all theteams in the League right now and I'm looking at like what like what makessense like we know, I mean La always needs a big man, I'm just trying to think of other teamsthat makes it like Minnesota doesn't really make sense. Maybe maybe e o yeah,you know, but what is Tanata doesn't have a start. They give you de JonteMary, no he's not at e Walker and the first rum man. It's not enough! We'retalking about the M s. You guys are a little more proven, Mary's, pretty goodthere Simmons, no we're talking about for and be no I'm talking about for,sits for Shimmen's. I think I'd do that and loyaler in a one. Would you do it? That's a good! You know what that's athat's a good place for him to drop, though, because you got a top of itjust pop yeah and that's what I was going to say. I think pop thinks thathe could fix them, because Brett Brown told me good about. If I told you likethe rose and Lonny Walker and the one I like the Mar, I like the rose a intwo thousand and twenty five older right, no t! I don't know how early onethirty a free agent job, sinetar yeah, that's yeah, he's on the other side. Iwant somebody in there bel the prime. We need Bradley they're, not giving upfor ye old man but yeah, but to is he he's a guy that doesn't want to bethere right Scot and be like dude. I don't want to be here. That's where inB comes in the play ye come on say you only want to go to Philly. Let's get itdone. Building a bill knows an beat, is coming to Washington, he's going to doeverything he can to shell take and wash it down. It fell. Try M B, try toget Bel to come to Philly m like he like, because he's not winning inWashington. Of course. Not so like. Don't you think, there's going to become a point where beal's going to be like all right kind of like where gameis I'm going to tell you right now. I don't think, there's a guarantee thatdame wants to come back to Portland he's not saying anything but he's alsonot like pledging to Portland like especially if they don't hire a coachthat he wants. I think there's a possibility. Game could be like look. Iwant out here's. I think this is not realisticat all, but is there a point where Joel says I want to you're wasting me if youare wasting me and next year, if they bring them back and they shut the bedagain, I can't think that's going. I don't think I think everything he sayseverything he loves billie. He wants to be here. This is his franchise. It ishe oh, no, he might go to South beach with Butler there were. There wereother guys that left their franchise because they said I want to go get thatring. I think he's going to start as he gets older, put more pressure onmanagement and that is kind of what I'm hoping he's doing right now like morelike. So here's the need and there's another one for you, how about Bam andhero, and maybe a protective first roundParis for Mbesa, like that, what I'm saying I don't like Bam is twenty threelike Bam, heroes, twenty one! You get another first round pick and you like.Would you do that because you know you're going to have Bam and the wayban plays. You know he's a ten year vet I mean he's gonna, be a ten year proand hero, say him too he's going to be, he get your shooting. I mean you got to do more because thecontracts are way off. Well, no, no! No! It's not really because Bam time himMax list year, so you're kind of onto something neat yeah Bam, and you saidyou sent him with Jimmy. You said him with Butler yeah. You have shootersaround them. They'll probably give you ole depot because he's just well he'sfree, yeah, so yea, so us sign him back yeah, but think about I'm just sayinglike hero and Bam for Im, you know and a protecters round pick for imbed.Would you pull the trigger on that and you have to think about it becauseyou're getting a lot of talent, yeah and you're getting more years, yeah andyou're getting more years. You know I mean you're getting defense you'regetting shooting. You know. I don't know who your who's, your, whose yourscore and on that team on that five? Can Your hearts not let? No? No, it'snot even just that. I think as long as I beds here, they should be content if he please atthe MV level that he does it's that intestine. We started about years, butI I mean I think you could play the...

...thirty two. I think he's got four tofive. That's my guess: Productive Years Years, yeah to productive, yeah Maxfive years five years, so five years is like pretty good window. He gets injured alot man you're right I got so I played in fifty two more realistically, it'sprobably closer to three or four, and I think five is the Max number of yearsyou're going to get that it's hard to give him that Super Max us he's got twoyears Lokon his deal, and then you got to give additional five years, soyou're locked in him for seven years yeah. But that gives you flexibilitywith the rest of the roster. If you do that, right now, you're paying in fiftyfive t you got, you can go over with those guys can and you're, not if JoshHarrison Yeah that they want to pay like that trade man, I would take Bamand hero in a first for imbed. I really would I think it's funny how we startedabout Tucking, Ben and now, all of a sudden e we traded. We are Joel out ofhere, yeah, I'm just I'm not. I agree with you that he's the. If you look inat the most valuable asset on this team yeah, it's him, he could be said that,don't you think I mean I mean obviously you're getting back some good talentback but like more, is try them with a championshipand doctors are like. Let's be honest, I don't think they're here more thanthe five years contract they sign. So is that really a viable window? I don't.I don't want to keep repeat myself. These aren't marise guys right, nor I'mnot attached to these guys. I think they more attached to Jo. I think theyare too he's the face of the franchise, but I mean then the window closes nextshot. Man Brooklyn is going to be full steam ahead. N Brooklyn, stink, Brooklyn stats. Now they don't stay,TERTII mean there's. Some teams got luck. He gothurt teams lucky. Those stars got her absolutely Hardin, wasn't the same andKairi wasn't playing yeah they got lucky. They got red Ale. That was athat was a big toe away for being over from that there have better vent there.That was a no. That was a big toe that the rent three was a big toe from thatseries being over yeah like let's be, let's be, and he put I'm as many timesas many as many as much basset. We all saying as much as we cry about oldschool basketball, I'm going to tell you what I've never seen a player playall fifty minutes of a game like I've. Seen Him B, I mean not in be I've, seenLabrinne Lot, but I mean all like he didn't come off the court andit was one on five because harden didn't. Do Anything Brooklyn or nextyear, but I don't think like does derar up there there's hard enry up there. Heput his heart on the floor in that series man after next year. Do youthink he goes? I don't think he goes anywhere here. Calling d ran soft toyeah. We call him so yea every minute he played every single minute and noteven do not just the one he put it in both games back to back, like that'stough man yeah. I just think I mean Brooklyn will be there, but like thesixers can be there with the right moods right, the sixers can be there with the rightmove. So what are the right moves? This is what we're trying to get down towe're. Throwing all these things out. Let's focus on! Is it Ben? I don't want to keep a Ben, but if youlook in the Blei they're going to blow it up, you got a trade and be that he'sthe only value. I don't think we need to blow up down, wait, NAT! So here'smy thing: If you can't get rid of Ben or you just blowing it up, no, I Idon't think he goes anywhere. I don't think this team is better without been.I mean be honest with you, so you think they don't trade Ben. I don't thinkthey tread them at all. I think they keep them. I think if I have to putmoney on it, he's here now yeah and it's pretty and it's good annoyeth bedhere. Another bet you think he's gone. I don't think he'shere. You think he's here. I think he can his much as I don't mate. You thinkhe's here right, yeah yeah how about this. So we all put it six pack up to you by a case there you go there, you got sick packof pepsin bottle I'll. Take that three six packs versusa bottle POPs. I take that bet. I I think he's here though he justdon't. I think it's at the point where it's like and bees done and be threwhim under the bus. DOCKRAT was E. I don't agree with Tokos Yeah Almeta Yeah.You got him out of here, but you got to remote. You got to find a willingpartner. If re you got to try and get close to night you're not going to getvaries. Agents Gonta push him out. That's why I think he's gone. They metwith them today why he still under contract. It doesn't matter what hisagent dogs contract as his agent, can do. A vigal. Did he got Le Bron atDavis? Don't be surprised if fen ends up in the lake contract, don't meananything yet that don't know it on de Rich Paul gets whatever he wants.Clutch sports runs the League National Bron Associating Clutch Fort de well.Would you trade M B for Le Bron? How...

...about? I would not what's the point guard but the littletrader, and then Bang goes on and wins likethree straight titles: yeah, it's Cos Pon free agent. I think he's a free, Ithink he's a free agent. He like our years Lion Laurie. I thought he wasdone. It was done and El we can get no he's not we can get the other guy to it.Just got caught. My Roshan applauds it. I mean Lebranos, I'm like what a greatole model man, it's almost lego across the Seeah. I hope it is to say that too,hey that's where drugs should be like a hundred dollar deep at a Jesus. I I don't want to be too early to doomsday, but was this Ben? Was this Joe Els Best Shot at wedding? Something? No! Idon't think you think with this. You think the windows still wide open.Maybe it's! I it's been just down shit meat, a little bit toshit yeah like when it's like a dog opine. You gotta Start Struggling thestreet a yeah. I S. It was stuck open for awhile and now when you got the first tug on it and a I think about, as isget in the hawks next year, I want pay back o Ay that exact team became. I hadzero, but I thin ear feelings about that. A way in the chain he was goingoff and I I mean they shot up. The ladder of hate in a heart beat willtray ours, like you have to hate them. He yeahs got a hable on the sixers. That's how much I don'tlike that guy and I was the same way about I didn't like dirt bolt. DICTERmoone was on the Philly. I hated them on the nets and I didn't like them allall that much on on the phillies and I think I'd be the same way with withtraor until he's. Try. I don't know. Where do I work? Well, he didn't dothat. I last night that was his first time right. What you hate for forty. Ithink you have thirty nine against US one game. Thirty year, Ye thirty andlast try lace. Light came, I'm pretty sure it came up in the street forty ina yes, forty, eight e H, you guys yeah, that's a over forty, because it's likethe same argument. I would use about Iverson, I think he's great but like ifit do shoots of all thirty eight, the forty times. Is it Oh yeah. I getsforty eight points. Well, you know I went to the whole fameto write for them. So in like it's value he's volume it yeah he's a Fi. ISur because it's Tra, you know what if he was if it was twelve or thirty five,it would be me shooting, right of so here's drop of one and make a twored and thirty FAC, probably more accurately, take away like ten tofifteen thousand. A sixer series to tray young should a got even lastly,that as watch that graduation floater, Oh yeah, he didn't touch them. The N Efication has been horrible. I didn't put that down as one of the excuses,but it's definitely an excuse or I ad on both sides was bad on both sides. SoI agree with you, but it's hard to use officiating when you blow at Twentyeight in a stain point lead. That's why hay carry your own business? True. Idon't argue that on that, why I have an at what I officiating. That's what Itell the kids I coach. When you know we, if we do something like that, where weright blow big lead- and I say the referees weren't shooting fourshots and missing o Ri afores weren't missing lay ups, the referees weren'tdoing whatever so, yes, she can't always blame the referee, I mean, butthere was, they did, have a small influence influence on the outcome ofmultiple games. More than small I'd, give it more and small, but I'm not I'mnot it's not the complete out. I now it's they didn't. They didn't lose theseries or games for the sixers and they did. They did have a factor in I meanthe sixers lost game, seven because of the foul line, not only yeah joe wellMiss Day, three or four foul shot. Yes to bias. I sometimes freaking Life Brod.You would have made those shots at devismes and I mean you're, probably agreat basketball player. It's not a knock on you, but like feet. Those weresimple shots. Three point turn into the five point lead five point Le Herd inthe seven yea, and you put them away at that point and you did it you. Let youlet bones, hang around this: How do you put them away? Hey Brodie, he wastalking the voucher man, I e nohow. Do you put those guys away?You just feed that ball in the Pan, but Mboda Sion. I know and that's where docneeds to tell him to get his ass in there, but I think I just feed him theball. I think that's where the injury came into play because he he might setin Frouton the F I know, but he was settling for outside shots. Those turnaround fadeaways more than he normally does and he was eating Washington upinside and I even commented it's about time. He learned and you said somethingit's about: timehe learned how...

...unstoppable yeah he is down Lowthian.He was doing that. You think we got her in White, it yeah and he was doing thatearly on in the series against against the Atlantic, because I don't think theinjury was wearing on him. Yet he wasn't getting beat up yet you know Iwas upon me was I'm grabbing on the neck by Collins and I I am convinced and had fine rowing himto the ground. Every chance they got was part of their strategy. Oh Yeah. Iagree it seriously. It was talked about in the locker room. No Kaou couldwhatever you want to call it, but I seriously think they talk. I think youare trabeae their strategy. Boys could put them down on the floor because aCapella came out and said it when he gets tired, an beat up he's not aseffective his body. Language totally showed it to yes getting up and downthe court. There were sometimes he just staying there, a hunched over his knees,and I thought you're, the only one doing anything. I think an injury cameinto. It became a factor of him camping out on the low block in because hewasn't. He wasn't doing it nearly as much, and I said the D J. I don't knowhow many times watching the Games he's catching the ball too far away from theroom, and you know when he's healthy, he can drive sometimes to rim and dodamage, but in the condition that he was in he w. He didn't have that thatthat burst to the basket, where everybody just kind of like backed upand got out of his way almost and that wasn't there from like midway throughthe series on early on. Maybe it was when he wasn't, it wasn't showing somuch yet, but I think that injury really came into play later on in theseries where he was catching the ball too far away from the rim not be ineffect at Talo settling way too many times for that fade away, shot and- and that's when legs come in, youknow once the legs are going, your jump shots going and he missed an ornate amount of those fat. He saidlike Johnny on those Fadeaway Jumpers and he missed an inordinate amount ofthose jumpers, and then he usually does so so that I ori mean that's like I said,post mortem all topsy cause a death, multiple, multiple damage, Yahoo Forcetrauma. I mean it's Ben, as one drama was definitely part of it: Ben Doc,injuries, officiating and just a hot hawks team yeah thatwill see if they carry it. They you know they say in hockey. If you'rerunning to a hot Goale, a lesser team can win, we ran into trayon the dudes on fire. Since the first book I got A and if I am not going tosay I respect this game, the kids, a shooter it looks like he's, got hard. Idon't respect the whole leaning in, but that's that's the way the League is aknows. He knows I've got, I'M gonna play Yep he's playing by the rules init. No Es the hell out of me, sly to no. I hate he's, like I said a many timeshe's to Sydney Crosbie at the end. Absolutely he flops he winds. He getsall the calls and he's going to get even more now that he's publicized, solike Tavera next year, ain't going to matter- and my thing about that rule isif it's okay for an offensive player to lean into a defender WHO's, not tryingto make contact, but isn't that already in the role book right now. Let mefinish my point: if it's okay for that offensive player, to do that with thefender who's, not looking for contact and get the Fal called against thedefender, it should be equally fair for the defender to do the same thing tothe offensive player and it men should be an offensive fail every time, yeahyeah he go straight up. Yes and the shooter runs into you when you'restanding there like this, you don't even jump straight and, and itdefenders legally allowed to jump straight up in air. It comes straightback down. He can't leave when he can jump straight up and down and that'slate. I think that drove me nuts, but the one that really drives me nuts, iswhere he gets like half court and like thible brush him, and he just throwsthem. Yeah Yeah, just jacks it up an he gets yeats and that is push off wasnever called no auoient. I don't hies, I don't think it was like. I wish youhad a M. No, I agent one time was a call, butthey called it on. They called it on Ben a few times and then wot Mac, andit was obvious on him more than once, yeah for sure right, we'll see how the sixers playout. We got a little time for Philly's, talk, sure and other ways to superstart. Another wasted Super Star Yeah. I starting to look like it, so we wereactually down there for the game. I said I got the witness it in person. Heis Great Grand Slam, lots of home runs and they, the pitching. Just I meanDavid Hale cannot yeah. Why would your already bring him in? Is Jady kind, ofi kind of like doc,piece a little out at l, coach, Ority...

...and I'll? Tell you right now, if theyveanother losing season, I get rid of monitor with the guy. With Monday offright tomorrow and and as of last night tomorrow off meeting today right, hesaid he was down for pictures. She could have went to Alvar. Are you serito Abrade did come in these pictures? He don't come in before hell. Theythrow right, ther, WER, no! Seventy through Halen Alvarado came in. I thinkin the seventh right. In on how came I woltes also unreliable. You never knowif it's going to be a ball or strike o thing, but he throws a hundred plus. Sobut the thing is these: Some of these relievers they're not frowing more thanfifteen to twenty pitches Archie Bra and they can't throw two days in theroad yeah, the Ras. AH, why can't they throw two days in a roat to throw infifteen to twenty pitches and we we were Sittin there saying all right,then he looked good wait till he gets through the line at once. When he comesback around then he's going to start getting tagged and what happened aftercutchin gets a Grand Slam. Yo go up nine five and then you go up again andlike Hector can't and I've defended Hector, I'm dumb defend you done withJordy should have freaking. I don't even know who the closureshould be. They don't have they don't have theydon't have on that? A problem, have you don't have any the line? One Kid could Bradley was supposed to bethe real deal. Could her yeah? I know there's a reason why the reds are timeback where we came from didn't of Toscato. Seen it now Joe White says: GERARDE's made somequestionable decisions, he's been making questionable decisions. Do SinRide in the cotelets changed Yeah Shit Yeah, look at the team that he had, Iwas gonna say you could manage, but the Mestiere de cold manage. I think hecould have done it yes en good and, like I'm at the point where I getrid of Hoskins at the I get rid of Hoskin to the deadline. No, no yeah! Why not? No is in a pin disappointment this yearthe whole team has been kind of a disappointment. I yes the whole forbeing honest with ourselves. Yes, you know, starting which are alreadyall the way down. I mean twenty fifth guy on the bench, yeah, there's guysout of the field like, I didn't even know we're on a team, but I I don'teven know who Brad Meller was your like merely yeah. He came at a one point I'mlike who is this Guy Yep, but Bras Moller. You know they've no farms; no,they don't and that's that's a big A. I think I would trade hoskins in arebuild your farm system. Somebody will give you some free, build the farmsystem and just not giving up well so now you start doing this and then brace this price to say all right guys.Let me go, let me go, someone depends where you get back well, Bryce Bryce is twenty eight, butyou think eventually he's going to be like I'm done yes, because if he getsinto his ties and they're still trying to rebuild he's, I thirteen yearswelcome to Philadelphia he's going to it he's going to ask out- and I don'tblame it. I don't know who takes that contract with his production. Well,that's the problem. He and he's part of the problem. Absolutely.Certainly he certainly not lived up to that contract. What is it one or twoyears, thirteen, the N N N n this like how like how long has he been on itlike how long as he be all he said year three her year, yes, is is thirst?Doesn't he have like a no trade? A yes, so for baseball. Is that him can stopthe trade or they can't trade them at all? They have. He has to give a list.Okay, if they, if they approach him and say, Hey Bryce, you know, let's talkabout trading you he can either say I haven't no trade claws or he can handthem the list of teams, he's willing to go to okay, so he can still. I thoughtwhen I remember hearing it. That was a big thing that he wanted in thecontract that he wasn't planning on going anywhere. Yeah right, like he wasputting his his flag and making the ground yeah. He wasn't going anywherecorrect, okay, yeah, that's kind of a publicity stunt. In my eyes he knowshow to play the filling yeah. I'm committed, I'm going to be here, I'mgoing to be a part of this Naskut. If you're, not winning in Fentin Yeah, Imean they've done everything he's asked for they signed his boy removed up yeahbut like he got to produce to if it gets to be, where he's thirty onethirty two, maybe thirty, three and the phillies are still a middling team.Looking to rebuild but like you, why to stay, they go into the trade deadlinehere and they get rid of. Hoskins are getting rid of two pictures are getting.I think I think brace is going to be like guys do so. Here's the thing thisisn't helping me. Brita hoskins ain't that big of a deal, because now youshould move o bom the first and then you could go out and sign one of theTrevor Story or Korea to play third or move did to third for a year like I'm,not sold onhoskins and know what I mean...

...to no body got to replace him that we yeah, but I'm about Nola. Is it justthis year or is it been multiple years with? No? No! No is at the first badyear with yeah, because I feel, like he's, been an ace ever before thatright, yeah print he's been a solid to Ostwald to he's not top ter ace level.No, no! No! No He's not, but he's an ace. Yes he's for the PHILLIES HE's yes!Well, obviously you can carve. You can come out of it for the Philai sayingthat the earlier years before, though didn't he have ace like number one pitnumbers. Yes, yes, we is this year for some reason he's he's off he's. I don'tknow yeah. So why do we talk about throwing him away because he one yearI'm talking about if you can get like to rebuild that farm system? Okay, okay,I'm wondering about wheel like is this- I I mean I don't want to give them up,but like look at his numbers, you're going to get like a ton back, he likealmost in Sion Talk Right. I close. Would you in that? Would you get like aking ransom from him? I haven't looked at the standings. Howbad is the e still for yeah, something like that to Elie we're not met? Sowhen we sleep an e met, the met still have a much five hundred the met have abunch of games to make up to, or I yea coid, so there yes. So we need thisseries this weekend. I think we would all agree. They got to win three out offour agains, a men absolutely yeah out a Fordo. They want to be anythingremotely close to a serious contender they have to. They have to be three outof four and they they New York. They need to. You know, win the division,Games and a D, and especially against the met coes right here, they're theirfront runners all right. So a big series coming upthis week end against the met. Are they going to take the keep it or out offills? No, we get on pigging one out of four he'llbe lucky to go two out of two to double header Saturday. I don't know. I guessI think, there's a does week cos if it's forking so who do we have galereunless they do a rap around Friday to Monday we got noer, Weel wiler Hallin.What I get to throw Matt Moran He's back, who do yeah they don't they don'thave enybody else. I think it is man, morier's, chase anon or he stone ovid.I don't even know who he holds. The five pitchers, Oh Spencer, Howard, will give you twoinnings yeah brutal. It's welcome. Welcome to Philly.Welcome me at the legal to make some type of. U Slash. You see what I put inthe thread for you. The license played I'm so yeah. I saw you ily sport weaker,what it's like to be of Philly FA, it's Ben! It's horrible, yeah horrible weekfor Philly Sport, Joe White as Bors game to tomorrow, Moors came to to wait the double o adouble headed rage tomorrow, yeah yeah all right another afternoon to two afternoongames. One Week, yeah, I more back to the Fifth Watch: Matt More, throw no or it was the fiftieth anniversary of ever-was a better six pack on Bel, No de no way I going there don't be done about it. Second Ating,maybe yeah, it's crazy! All Right! We got any any eagles talk me quickly.Let's talk before we wrap it up. Kelly ree, coming back Kelly, green comingback next year. I'm waiting for on this sign another corner. That's as I waslooking a PRONEKA yeah they've been saying that, but they, what did youhear he told me yesterday? was they were what they were? They would talkwhen they were like two million off from getting Steven Elson like theywere already close to getting yeah. I think yeah. I did read that I don't doyou have reliable sources, you have inside sources. Tell mehopefully they're not like Dja or flan sources. Fut, like their sources, arebre. They have not come through. We Have Machado and Harper and yeah, Oh God, what was Flan's last oneto a holy. I was definitely going to be on the heels I do have a source of a sour, so that talked to someone close to the eagles.That said, the Eagles are not sold on hurt, yeah t old on her right and they reallyreally like watching, but the ate asking prices too much.Well, there's nothing! I mean there's too many massage powers of fill. That'sthe problem I like I like hurts, but if we can get watching, I'm all for it putout you give it up, but you give it up. These were issues that he needs to be wiped witters, which is God on I'll.Give you the three I'll be going to chinatown will catch me there I'll giveyou the three and you give me a two back free, first rounders I'll give eI'll give up all three for three. First Round picks you can take her to it them,and you give me a second this year and maybe like our third next year, soyou're, giving all three for next year,...

I'm giving all give I'll give threefirst round peck, I'm not giving off of next year. He I'll give you two fornext year, I'll, give you a hurt and I'll give you number one in twothousand and twenty two. I know her two tousand and twenty three. I know I'mlike the biggest person in Jalemus Fain Club, but we were just talking aboutthe sixers. Didn't we talk about somebody that, like we want that, likework, his tail off ants to get better like, I think that Jalandhar, I thinkyou give him a year. Let's see what he has, I'm not saying he's going to begreat, but if he happens to be like average or better than average, youhave three. First Ron picks next year to surrentum talent. That's why I think,like I don't think you get rid of Jalan Arts, and I know that, like people areout there being like he's, got a show, he's got it. I agree, but there'snobody that works harder to craft a look than him and at the kids are toweapons. Is She right right and- and I think a big key is to the Pont Smith heit fesole got to stay healthy has to. I think, that's what it is this year. Ithink they're Goin to he's got a year to prove himself M, and this gives themthis luck. If the SEAN gets all his legal issues, fixed and Houston says, look we're going togive you the one year to play. I just get get your resume out. No showpeople what you got a note like tea he's, not playing he's not playing foryou, don't think he's gonna go back at all like you, don't think o that O,don't you think I know he doesn't Becani. Definitely don't trade me aftera year of absolute, they turned it back. I they're back on him he's done, but Idon't think he wants to go back there, but if there's, if he tames waring totrade for him, I think I think we've all heard this before. I think we'veheard announcers said before I think we've heard pearls say before and Ithink even you guys said it before well. Is this re reiterated if your guy isout there, especially the quarterback, you go, get them. You go get em. TheShan Watton is what twenty three years old now he's on in that no he's notmuch he's not much older he's name what twenty five five yeah twenty five yearsold they're playing into their forty like this, is only his fourth year yea.This is like you go get him! You Go, get him man. He is a! He is a differenttype of cat, no injuries yeh, but but what you? I can't look at, listen,there's smoke, there's fire! You can't tell me to he didn't! Do It, like I'msorry, Dude Fifteen, sixteen women, all right. If it was one to three fine. I don't touch him some of these. Some of these guys, man,they you know they got their outlets- I mean he is who he is. Robert He's got Othat's gonna Five, this play Bob Craft, did it and he stole on a team. So youknow, let's give her to your yeah, let's seewhat he does. So, if you give, if you give her to year, I just want to seewhat he does for you and he doesn't do anything or he doesn't he's not whatyou expect. I think, then, that's why you have the three for art pace fate,move up in the draft or you can go the route of a trade, I'm fine with that.But let's get the Kido but you're you're, you're trading off theopportunity to get watching that right, you're, saying you're out you're outcompletely on Watson, because if you give hurts the year, I don't know that somebody's got to trade for WatsonRight. If it's legal stuff gets fixed, someone's got a for so and you're not going to trade for watchingto have him sit on the bench for a year. You Go to trade for watch and he'sgoing to play, which means Hurts Gottee, I'm G, so I go tell you right now:Watson, if watching plays this year, it's it's going to be for the Texasthey're not going to trade them before the beginning of the year. If he tellshim he's not play him, I think he's got his own legal issues. What team isgoing to touch him until that's all about every team looking for aquarterback and I think we're going to know about Halloween forget the wholeyear, we'll know about Halloween O at you. Let me ask what we're getting alot of smiting for presidents, yeah, right Smithy for President Smithy forPresident Trima for president, but let me ask you this smitty for president.Let me ask you this question: What do you have Watson, as ranked in your Keb,ran kings? What do you put him fantasy reality reality so in that they're not far offthey're, not far off a hush power, ranking he's definitely number one, butan film ranking only because he's younger than Bob Craft, I would say top.I would say, he's. Definitely in the top ten to twelve- I don't know if he'stop ten, I think it's close Hark. You give me ten or sad git me ten, give meten quarterbacks right now. You would take over to Shon Wanton Brady. Now nowere the shoe would take Brady Redos. No, not just I give you rogers go ahead.We got one Herbert No, no go ahead, but I git you ride Herbert Fan to I'msurprised over, but you can't take. I give I'll give you rogers go at Smithyfor president. You all give me brain. I ride. I would take Brady, I'm notgiving you okay, I o t A. Are you saying these top five? I think he's topF yeah top me. I mean you might be...

...right. I think I'm worried about theissues, because I'm like thinking it's Philly, dull trade for him and then more shut ill, come out and then we'rereal. Are you serious we'll be in in all? If he comes to Philly, no, I'm saying more troubles will fine.He won't be able to play in forming that now. He's gonna get he's gonna geta round the dirt bags in this city. We would love him he's serious. We wouldlove him. Three ones is a lot but he's already five quarterback Penetra iner.That's the problem. They're asking for food that cat is you already paying forone, so you have to wait at least to your. I think once that's part of theproblem too, but let have we figured that out that I'm thinking that be you,trade, flech right. You, trade, flete, cocks, that's the biggest dollars. Ifyou really want the Shaw on Josh Alan Bright Top ten, no, I'm not taking them over to showhim easy. That's a that's a wash for me, patrick my home. I my home it homes.Obviously my home just got to be number one. I would take a my homes. RogersRuss are not Avin. That's three. Do you think that's another person that couldbecome available right or us he's Ingean going on? We just what he justwent just a take wate's, not better than Prescott. I mean he is better inPrescott. I would say I as you now I was saying he is better: Oh yeah, for strying to think you might be right. Maybe he is he's, I think, he's top fun.I think he's top five and there's there's only he's cloth he's,definitely tap te and he's close to five. I got A, I might give you Allanover him. I might give you island, because I w show o one good year. Alangot a bigger arm, but other than that, I don't, he showed up lash. He showedme more than what he is last year, but Watson has nobody right. He has nobody.He's put all he had bill. Fuller Catholic great will foller when he was not what he was on thefield. He was a graduated Rome, Yeah Buddy, I'm just saying like he reallyhad no help. Are you look at Allan's team last year right? They had a threeon your telling me and hurt. I would give a four ones, but apparently that'swhy it's too much or I would give two ones and fletch flutter cocks. Absolutely I help withthe cat. I don't think the Texans will take that, but why not they an lose atthe top three defense. I know, but he's up there like they're not going to winany time to right, I mean maybe hurts and two twos are two ones or three ones,but I'm not giving up all three that I don't know three in one year I wantmake. Can you give me like a two thousand and twenty one, one right, theEagles one, I'm not giving up the dolphins, as I think the dolphins aregoing to stink and then maybe a two thousand and twenty three one and a twothousand and twenty twenty two two see to me. If you, if you could I mean who?Do you really think s going to who has the if you include Fletch in the deal?I think that's way too much, because I still think fletch is a top defensivetackle Y A I agree with you, but so there so, but he's do another contrahe's up there, but I mean, I think, he's still a top five defense attackingthe lead, he's still a threat. You know so, and he could be that J j. What kindof like feeling that you know that was you know he doesn't have to play in themiddle he can put like he would be a problem in that three four yea. I alsothink that, like I mean I know, teams need quarterbacks, but like are wepitting against ourselves if we give for a like who can top that offer ofthe eagles like if you think, who's out there? That probably not because it isa good point to the offer? Nobody like we got three ones we could even put inMile Sanders as much as I d want to like a young running back like but likewho out. There has the AMO that the eagles have, and I don't want to outbidourselves like get about at me. What are they going to give us to it? Theydon't have a first round this year, like New England, just drafted Mac, Joe,is just going to say all the teams at Sike just got their quarterback right,like I think you could probably like if you didn't put Houston to the spot,where, like like look dude like I'll, give you two ones Arestin, that's allyou're getting or this guy can sit like Chicago. Just got a quarterback infields right yeah. They don't need one jets got a quarter back. I have aquarterback, maybe the panthers right they could probably go after becausethey only have denard or whatever darnall. They just got. Do they're Gointo give him a chance, but I mean like who out there is like dying to get aquarter back. That can give us more. So why give them for one case play hard toget until you get we broncos yeah broncos. Could you to co back? Peopleare saying: Rogers will go there at this point I think Rogers might stay.Rogers is just looking to get paid he's looking to get a, but what I'm sayingis I don't want to outfit ourselves when we don't need to, he could fallinto a lapse for two ones. He here's two ones. Here's hurt in her's Urts,take it to leave it eh, and I and I pull the trigger yeah,because because I think Watson is that good and you're going to have them forten years, I'm not happen to you can do that hearts, O Ane, an devant Smith. No,no, no Adid, you say Smith. He got...

...impeached on that T. do it I'm saying to you, because youguys are all about watching, but you give up to van Tasmit, no go a guy, hela on anything. Yet we we just got he just got here. You know I mean, but youwould give up breaker s that so awerage or not we're notthrown in Greg Ward, though we're basis, Yoho boy at Ocali them give them travisfog, and I would give them brooks too. I throw Brooks on there. Brooksbankhe's been hurt a lot o people don't ax. We need line, but that's a lot of moneytoo. I don't know if that'll work on the way he but be brody, he might be,you might be able to give them the tackle the draft it. You might be ableto do your Delaro's a good point to nate. I'm not given up my lot. No, Igive up killer Dil yeah I'll, give up till her taxing him up, AH, like theyhave the pieces to do it, and then they should sit still until, like yeahHouston, like until somebody blows their offer out of the water. That'swhat I'm saying don't give four ones. If you don't have to he. I think Jimwas saying that the price, the asking part is for I'm not saying it, but forokay, but I wad ha a Houston one. But if I don't want to give up any of myplayers, then I would give up all three and I would take a Watton in the twoback, I'm okay, we're taking two toes back. How many years does he have lefton this contract? I know he just sinee just signed when he signed on hisbefore his rookies, so he's probably got like four or five left yeah forsure. For I, but Dick you said we till Halloween the problem with that is Halloween you're only trading draftpicture, not trading players O of it. Maybe you'll trade like an earth to hestill here, but you're not going to you're not going to trade Jalin atHalloween. Now, what I said is we will know the answer about to his litHalloween. Oh her right, I thought you meant to show on about whether he's aplayer or not. Do you think he is? I don't know it's four games like I,don't let it's a totally different offense. I don't know what a Yearne gota whole coaching staff cry. We have no idea, and you know he started outreally well and they didn't ended up not so much. I think they are committedto him like they brought an offense. I cordiers got connections to hurts likefor this year. I'm not saying Ye. I mean they're going to help them right,they're going to want to develop them and see. I see what they have it's intheir own best interest to help the kid as much as they can making me mad thatthey're trying to help now after once, is gone. What I was, I think that wasdifferent right would dog. That was a different kind of dynamic yeah. I wasgoing to say like yeah yeah, but I think, but I think that Imean I don't have a problem with giving her to change. But my thing is:If somebody's out there that's better and it's like night and day better,which I think it is, then I'm pulling the trigger well we're, like a lot ofus, already feel that we're not going to be good right, O thine somebody hadthem in the play offs. That's t at that's that Aniceto be like I e T. Idon't think they're going to be as bad as everybody thinks. I really me to Idon't I think their offense is pretty good. Like yeah, you, though, they'regoing to have to steal a couple O games to get the abut. What's on offense thatyou like, why, like Mile Sanders, I think he's a good running back, I doFonta Smith will be good. I like Dallas, governs yeah. I I hope are any of thoseplayers. You just name Probo players. Mile Sanders was according to the playstation fo, so that would be a negative. I think,to visit that star, potentially you're right. I just I think otter, given thechance could be good. Being I thought o going to say it depends on her. Ifhurts is a good is a decent quarterback. He could make God era, I mean he hasn'thad the chance to be that go to guy, because her heart has been his way. Ijust worry it's all new. It's all the EST even be here. Like players, I meanit's possible right now, right urts and I know he doesn't want to be here, butwhat's he going to do it? You knock on a play. No hope play go play right.That's like ye help lay no, hopefully he's not that type he'll. Ah Heabsolutely he'll play. He won't like it, but don't play well. He played lest heyou see what it got it. He played it and moped the whole time and didn't doshit for the season. So but I'll do the same thing this year, I brodie. Do youget that swear jug when we're out that thing? I said: That's collectives, no fbombs. Tonight, okay, but really it's got a swear jog it a carson one, Jo anda D. Seven! That's right! I okay! I'm sorry! Right now that Benee's, a lot ofde looks like we're shootin for eighteen o the square jaw. 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...in the play like, but it's just like itseems like we're curse. Like you look at like even more cowfold, I was justgoing to say. Remember our Summer League Hilas, I I'm like that. Dude hadto have had some type of accident like motorcycle acts or something you don'tjust mess up your shop, but like we draft the most mentally soft players inPhiladelphia- and I don't get it- I don't Fiorita for number one picks Jeli,two thousand and fifteen to two thousand and fifteen ten faults: Carsonand Miemon AC. Oh God make it mon and all while MONIAC and Adam hazily righthe had to go to the Yeah Ben's, the only one playing I stillwith us up at the and no one Patrick, don't forget about him number two. Hewas twenner. One picks number one e it wow, that's real! Well, Carson wasnumber two yeast he was was I'm so patrick in themix wow we look at everybody's face is evenBrodie faces like yeah. I was alive for this, but he's got a championship way beforewe days just amazing like how many misses we have like you. Look at theprocess right now. What like Oakford sucked rightfolks was a mental midget head case Simmons, we don't know now and being wehad the weight. Basically, two years years lay I feel bad for Ogane. Oh, it was alluncofered was his bad timing. Yeah I mean was super young. He was eighteenyears old, I right putting in a man's game and then you got until well, if tehear, but no L, N, M, B, Yeah and then UN started right and then mb comesright behind you and just makes you look span, but even whenever he wentsomewhere else, he didn't look any better. Now he looked okay and otherwhere he was he still in the Lee he's to the League. He sereno. I thought Isaw him in Ely. Fitness Teda he's serviceable off the bench, he'snot a starter now, but he's serviceable about a fraid. But you talk about I'mtalking about nat like the fact of all those lottery thing, yeah yeah for surefor sure, not for sure the process like, but the part of the process was havingall those picks right right, hoping no, he have akin you guys learned in yougot five if one of them turns out that that would in es hole, yeah yeah solike Norlans, isn't bad right now, Nerli is a serviceable center for thenext. Actually, yeah he's going to get paid right off the yeah sure yeah, butwe knew what New Orleans no wells was. When he came here a we knew what he was.So I mean he's doing he's doing he's doing well, it's just like they all go,do well better after they leave here. That's you know I mean my dad commentedearlier bed. We always end up on the wrong side of the trade Engo's Gon toClick and he's going to figure it out. But you know what what no use cryingover spilled milk right now, I said like deep thrown out the old jam o beable to Kitheth. I don't if he goes, he goes somewhere else and he he's better.It is what it is fore. Yeah you go, think you saying right. Yeah, I thinkhe's going to be here. Is that better on the line in like? Are we doing that?Like that's fine, I don't have a problem bringing in pops and actuallyI'm going to add to probably he probably has them already. I add topizza some feet, everybody to guy. Like that it I like it. We need to get the closer. We need toget the cos. The coasters, that's a many propres. I don't need that, but I mean I justdon't. I think it's at the path of no end like I feel like it's a numbereleven situation. I go, one could say the name: It's not like calling on thedevil. You could say the name. I situation. It's almost like an the yeah,I mean go all right. I think I think we could wrap it upright, yeah. This is good for tonight for sure the only sport we have now through thesummer is baseball to fill. Now I said the only sport we have now it'sbaseball, the we'll still be it here, we'll findplenty to talk about. We've got lots of lots of topics in our back pocket thatfor sure we always want to pull out. We always managed to bring a guest and what not in and talks on, oddball topics like we always do. Yes, that's what is taking summer summercomes along. We haven't had a good derailment in a while. We still have tohave our our greatest right. Both of you guys. We haven't asked you thisgreatest American rock band American Rameri, an rock bad, not great,as Rock Bay, Great American rock pay. You talking o both what come on, because I was on a rotter of the onlything I can think of when I was a when I was younger that people loved andthey weren't too bad in my ear- was Nevada, but I don't Knowi, I yea PearlJim Pearl Jam all right all right. I...

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